To put it simply, CoD is destroying the video game industry. Let me explain, this game is pretty much always the same, which is not the reason why I hate this game. Its more with things that are all caused by its own success. This game being so successful, its developers took the only logical decision, make DLC to make more money off of it! Now, everyone releases unfinished games with an s-load of DLC... Also, I can't remember wether it was CoD4 or MW2 that did it, but now all DlC prices got up, and its easy to see that it came with the CoD franchise. Now, with elite, we can expect to see many developers making you pay for what was free before. It won't even mather if people take that service, the simple fact that such a successful game do it will force it in other major games. Overall, a stagnating game so successful causes the industry to stagnate and it raises overall prices... Just to make my point, MW2 already had parts of the dlc on disc if I remember correctly, thus being one of the first successful game to have dlc on disc... Well, not really but many believe that dlc's were already done when the game was released, and I've got no problems believing it...
What's with all the Modern Warefare 3 Hate?
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Entire thread= tl;dr.
But to sum it up, I just don't care. I'm not going to go rampaging the streets of the internet just because there's a thousand posts on the next Medal of Duty, I'll just ignore them because, frankly, I don't care.
But to sum it up, I just don't care. I'm not going to go rampaging the streets of the internet just because there's a thousand posts on the next Medal of Duty, I'll just ignore them because, frankly, I don't care.
It's just the way people view it. There's no game that everybody likes. I personally like the MW series and will play this one, although it will most likely be the last one I'll play. But to be honest, the praise that CoD gets when there are other better series is ridiculous.
It's not the game itself, it's dealing with the casual gaming crowd and their endless infatuation for mediocre yet overly hyped games like these. I mean I've tried to talk to these people about games before, and 90% of the time they'll look confused till I say something about CoD.
-"Hey, you know Killzone 3 had a pretty good MP."
"Killzone what? Is that a name for a new CoD map?"
-"I had a lot of fun playing Bulletstorm"
"Bullet what? Is that a new CoD perk?"
-"Man I can't wait for Mass Effect 3 to come out."
"Mass Effect what? Oh so you like Halo, huh? Well CoD > Halo all the way *****!"
"NO! Mass Effect is not Halo, you're confusing the two!"
"Still, CoD > Halo HARD!
-_-
-"Oh shit! Dues Ex comes out tomorrow!"
"When does MW3 come out?
"I don't know?"
"You don't know? I thought you said you're a gamer and you'd know about stuff like this?
GRRRRRR>><<
-"FUCK COD, MW IZ DA SUXOR!!
"Haha, I can see someone has been getting rapped for playing like a Noob...Haha!
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-"Hey, you know Killzone 3 had a pretty good MP."
"Killzone what? Is that a name for a new CoD map?"
-"I had a lot of fun playing Bulletstorm"
"Bullet what? Is that a new CoD perk?"
-"Man I can't wait for Mass Effect 3 to come out."
"Mass Effect what? Oh so you like Halo, huh? Well CoD > Halo all the way *****!"
"NO! Mass Effect is not Halo, you're confusing the two!"
"Still, CoD > Halo HARD!
-_-
-"Oh shit! Dues Ex comes out tomorrow!"
"When does MW3 come out?
"I don't know?"
"You don't know? I thought you said you're a gamer and you'd know about stuff like this?
GRRRRRR>><<
-"FUCK COD, MW IZ DA SUXOR!!
"Haha, I can see someone has been getting rapped for playing like a Noob...Haha!
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The rarely dislike the actual game itself when it comes to a situation like this. I just dislike all the other games that come out trying to emulate it so they can also cash in on it. A lot of other games have done it and each one, I don't really dislike the game, just the emulation. It sort of hurts progress.
It's more akin to there being a Taco Bell in the same town as a high-end steak house. One day the Taco Bell makes this amazing burrito. It's quality, everyone loves it. It's amazing. Corporate sees this burrito, and gets an idea. They want to replace any ingredient deemed too expensive with ones that are both easier to acquire and are cheaper. And they want to mass produce it like crazy. As many as they can, as fast as possible. But it retains the same name, and same high price as when it contained the quality ingredients.42 said:
Demand only rises, and soon more Taco Bells open in the town, so they can sell more of the popular burrito, as one wasn't putting out enough, fast enough for corporate's liking. Quality continues to decrease, but the price remains the same, and they begin to cut things from the burrito, such as cheese and lettuce. Things that aren't essential to the food, but are nice to you know, have. But they don't just remove them, they charge extra for them, and not only do they do that, but they put less of those extras on than they did previously. Meanwhile, the steak house can't compete, as they are charging the same amount of money for the food, but they are spending much more on both ingredients and preparation. Pretty soon, they are run out of business, as they are no longer turning a profit, and nobody wants to make steak anymore, since burritos are cheaper to make, easier to make and yield a higher profit.
I'll expand on my already lengthy, stupid Taco Bell metaphor now. My biggest problem with the series is the stagnation. CoD-CoD4 were amazing. They were fun games and did moderately well for themselves as far as sales. Except for CoD4, which did exceptionally, and was a surprise, huge hit.Simalacrum said:
Nobody saw that coming at all. We all expected a really good game, not the entertainment smash-hit we received. And this is where the downfall began. Instead of building on top of the success of 4, and expanding the genre and doing new things with this big following, they decided to try and replicate it. Not only replicate, but remove any semblance of maturity and intrigue from the story.
We went from intriguing military shooter, to bullshit Michael Bay crap story-wise. But people claim they don't buy it for the single player, they buy it for the multiplayer. Well, why do that? So they can experience the myriad of new glitches and hacks? So they can level up again and get the guns in a totally new order? All this for $60+? It's sales really do have to do with a sheep-like mentality. Because outside of "my friends are getting it" there really seems to be zero incentive to buying new iterations. That's all I ever hear, "my friends are getting it". If it was the awesome multiplayer that only seen slight tweaks with each iteration, they'd just stick with the previous game and save the money.
Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Also, wrong. Read above for the reasons. Most people are just too damn lazy to type them and know for a fact the average CoD player wouldn't read a post this long.Stall said:
You could have just gone to page 4 instead of trying to argue with just one person. Asking for valid reasons, when valid reasons have been presented in the thread already.SgtFoley said:
It kind of irritates me. I saw multiple posts asking for valid reasons for the hate and wanting long posts. I make one, it gets ignored and people carry on with "Y ALL HATE?" when I've laid it out in a stupid metaphor and in actual reasons. I guess reading comprehension is too difficult?
CoD's engine is starting to show its age; it hasn't been changed fundamentally since at the latest CoD 4; that was nearly four years ago. The annual releases don't allow for any significant improvements or for sufficient time to address problems and imbalances within the multiplayer. The game is still playable, its just a shadow of its former self; if Activision weren't such greedy folk, I'd urge them to wait for about three years then relaunch the franchise with a new shiny engine and more content per game, but, well we know that'll never happen.
1. Popularity - A game's popularity is directly proportional to how many people hate it. Think I am wrong? Log into any MMORPG (Not WoW) and as the community there about their thoughts on World of Warcraft.
2. Age - Call of Duty's engine was old when Call of Duty 4 was released, it uses a heavily modified version of the ID Tech 3 engine, you know what else uses ID tech 3? Quake 3 Arena (1999). Yeah.
3. Activision - Activision's system of reproducing games on a one year cycle creates massive levels of over-saturation (not to mention stifles innovation and improvement, thus the "age" section). Have you ever listened to a song you like so many times that you stop wanting to listen to it? Now imagine you have to listen to it even more after that point, you start to despise it.
2. Age - Call of Duty's engine was old when Call of Duty 4 was released, it uses a heavily modified version of the ID Tech 3 engine, you know what else uses ID tech 3? Quake 3 Arena (1999). Yeah.
3. Activision - Activision's system of reproducing games on a one year cycle creates massive levels of over-saturation (not to mention stifles innovation and improvement, thus the "age" section). Have you ever listened to a song you like so many times that you stop wanting to listen to it? Now imagine you have to listen to it even more after that point, you start to despise it.
Why all the MW3 Hate? Why all the MW2 Hate? Why all the CoD4 Hate? Why all the Halo 3 Hate? Why all the Halo Reach Hate? Why all the GTA IV Hate? Why all the SR2 Hate?
/Rant
Because not Everyone likes the same things, and you have every Right to Voice your Dislike of a Game. There is No Rule saying that you may only Praise Games.
I Dislike every CoD and Halo Game ever made.
I dont talk about it on Forums, but if asked, and if its suitable to state this face, I have no Problem with that.
And if I were to Explain myself, I would merely be listing the Reasons why many People LIKE these Games, as the Reasons I do not.
/Rant
Because not Everyone likes the same things, and you have every Right to Voice your Dislike of a Game. There is No Rule saying that you may only Praise Games.
I Dislike every CoD and Halo Game ever made.
I dont talk about it on Forums, but if asked, and if its suitable to state this face, I have no Problem with that.
And if I were to Explain myself, I would merely be listing the Reasons why many People LIKE these Games, as the Reasons I do not.
I played all the of the CODs(exepet for 3,my friend told me it sucked badly) and after MW1 they're just releaseing the same game over and over again.Basically making the customer pay 60$ for something that should be a DLC.and it dosne't deserve its popularity,games like Deus Ex,BF3,skyrim,Arkham city Deserve it much more than COD does.
In reality, with the gaming industry making so much money and churning out (that's really the only way you can destribe it) game after game people are looking for something better. They don't know what it is, they couldn't describe it to you if you put a gun to their head, but they want something different.
Personally, I've never played Modern Warfare or COD because I don't like "realistic" shooters, so I have little to no comment on them.
I have played Halo, which I truly dislike, because it's anti-logic in so many ways. Let's start with the basic rifle, the weapon that's supposed to be issue to the average soldier is as accurate as throwing a rock, just with a longer range. And then theirs the Warthog, a vehicle no military would EVER green light because it handles like a pregnant elephant.
And Gears of War? Not bad, the developers seem to have been having fun with it and it's a fine time waster; but once I'm done with it, I'm done forever. I won't revisit it.
Games used to be about playing a game. But now that everyone is a gamer and the industry panders to the under 25, "instant gratification" demographic all we're getting is pretty graphics around the same three or four games. It's almost like country music, now, where every game could be substitued for any other in the same genre and you couldn't really tell.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm sure as hell waiting for something new.
Personally, I've never played Modern Warfare or COD because I don't like "realistic" shooters, so I have little to no comment on them.
I have played Halo, which I truly dislike, because it's anti-logic in so many ways. Let's start with the basic rifle, the weapon that's supposed to be issue to the average soldier is as accurate as throwing a rock, just with a longer range. And then theirs the Warthog, a vehicle no military would EVER green light because it handles like a pregnant elephant.
And Gears of War? Not bad, the developers seem to have been having fun with it and it's a fine time waster; but once I'm done with it, I'm done forever. I won't revisit it.
Games used to be about playing a game. But now that everyone is a gamer and the industry panders to the under 25, "instant gratification" demographic all we're getting is pretty graphics around the same three or four games. It's almost like country music, now, where every game could be substitued for any other in the same genre and you couldn't really tell.
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm sure as hell waiting for something new.
I know those games. I'm Back. COD isn't run-n-gun.bussinrounds said:
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Because it has the emphasis on looking down the sights, that DOES make it NOT a run-n-gun shooter.
dumb shooter =/= run n gun
Your problem seems to be is you know run-n-gun games are unrealistic, you know that COD is unrealistic, but that does not make COD a run-n-gun game.
Just because a fish swims in the sea and so does a tortoise, that doesn't mean a tortoise is a fish.
CoD series has become a rather slow paced but still very dumb shooter. There is no running to the gunning, you can't even sprint and shoot at the same time. Just while moving forward at brisk jogging speed your gun is so inaccurate you literally could only hit hit the broad side of a barn.
The differences between Arma/Flashpoint and COD are subtle, but significant. Such as health management, level layout and pacing as well as equipment use (do you have to select grenade or is it auto select + throw).
Also realise the reason COD went (and stuck with) aim-down-sights is very different from the serious wars sims (flashpoint/ARMA) in that they know that really iron sights is the only possible way of aiming a gun in a realistic way.
Iron sights are pivotal on consoles where is it so god damn hard to quickly aim at anything with thumbsticks so that aim-assist is vital. The iron sights is a gameplay mechanism as the aim-assist (first seem majorly in Halo) could be dialled up in its intensity when using the sights to a setting that is much easier to aim... yet so high it would be too hard to navigate the environment without your view point "sticking" to every enemy.
It may have been there for realism at first (COD1 circa 2003), but it stays for the universal cheating it permits to compensate for console controls only ideal for platforming games.
just look at Modern Warfare 2, check out some gameplay footage, and consider how easily it could be adapted to an on-rails lightgun/wii-mote shooter.
What I don't get is why people keep asking this question when the answer is always the same? Because the reason is always the same.
I don't understand this either...
If you don't like the game - don't play it - simple...
P.S. I like it too
If you don't like the game - don't play it - simple...
The original Halo actually came out at the same time as the origional COD (In fact a month before), so Halo is hardly new either.William Ossiss said:
P.S. I like it too
I'm not sure how you classify run and gun, but just because you can't shoot while sprinting doesn't make it a slow-paced game. There's plenty of running, and plenty of gunning, but just because they don't occur simultaneously you don't consider it run and gun?Treblaine said:
If you play COD and compare it to, say, Battlefield or Halo, you can immediatley see that COD's small-scale maps, high weapon damage and often tight quarters make it a very quick-paced gaming experience.
Also, how are the guns innacurate? You aim, stuff dies - it's an age-old, reliable system.
I don't even care about modern warfare 3, I'll be busy still playing Maplestory, and Battlefield 3, and WWE 12.