What's with the MMO hate, you hateful haters?

[Souplex]

It's because they're not fun.
That simple.

 

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Opinion (<note that):
I don't like the aspect of having to slave away at a game because of the subscription. Literally, time is money on these games due to the $10 a month scam. Then there's the whole grinding aspect that removes all the diverse experiences and fun you should be having, and replaces it with repetitive challenges that need to be accomplished in the name of progress.

Even extra credits made a relevent video about the addiction that is prevalent in MMOs:
[link]http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/game-addiction-pt.2[/link]

 

[Bwog]

I just don't like the subscription cost solely due to the reason that I feel like I "have" to play in order to get my moneys worth. I like to do other things too, ya know, like playing other video games lol

I think Guild Wars 2 will win me over due to no subscription. Sure, they'll release a butt load of expansions, but my wimpy character will be free gosh darn it.

 

[Moonlight Butterfly]

Well at the moment me and a friend who played WOW together for a long time are really enjoying TOR mostly because the voice acting and dialogue choices draw you into the questing and the storyline. We are already saying once we get to 50 we are going to make a couple of new characters to see what the other stories are like.
It's like playing co-op Mass Effect, you even get a ship and a crew.

 

[RatRace123]

I don't like other people intruding in mah RPG zone, ruinin' all my immersion.
Also don't like paying the monthly subscription fee.

But mostly the me being an antisocial RPG gamer thing.

 

[Torrasque]

I hate WoW because I played from end BC to start of Cata and saw the gradual decline of the game.
I don't hate it because of any of the reasons you stated, I hate it because the game is legitimately fucking terrible these days.

 

[SovietSecrets]

I just dislike MMOs because the end game content doesn't justify the monthly fee to me. However free to play games like soon to be Aion and Guild Wars 2 are pretty awesome. Can't wait for Guild Wars 2.

 

[DustyDrB]

I've never played one, but I have nothing against them. So....there.

 

[aescuder]

I don't really hate MMOs but it inadvertently stole my best friends future. Smart lad and an amazing person but his slight ADHD got the better of him and MMO was pretty much very well engineered crack for his kind of personality (and for many others evidently).

I have much of the same addictive/obsessive personality. I know if I play I would want to keep playing whether I'm having fun or not, just for the sake of progress. This is why I stay well away from it. Also, too busy with my career right now and thank God I have enough sense to know which one is greater priority.

someday when I have a surplus of money and time I suppose.

 

[Yopaz]

It's the subscription fee. You can tell me all you want that the subscription fee is necessary to keep the game running, but I don't get my money's worth. I'm a busy person and I don't have time to play enough to get my money's worth. I want to play different games at times which also prevents me from playing a game that I am paying just for owning. I have had Xenoblade for a few months. I played a little when I got it, a lot during Christmas and I intend to finish it soon so I still remember the story when I continue. Even though I have spent months on it I have only paid once.

I also have a problem getting into MMORPG. Oh, and I don't really hate MMORPGs, they're just not my cup of tea and if you enjoy it stop caring what others think.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

It's the subscription for me. I don't want an obligation to play a game, I'd rather do so at my own pace in my own time.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

You asked for opinions, he gave you one. Now you're attacking him for it?

Are you troll or something?

Not only that, but attacking him when he's gone and found something that he really enjoys, and is an improvement on his life? (at least in his perspective). Way to criticize people dude.

So if you have an opinion.
And I have an opinion.
And my opinion is different than your opinion.
If I state my opinion, that's automatically "an attack", right?

Wait, no...how about this...

If I ask "Bob, why don't you like rowing?".
And he says "I don't like rowing because I'd rather be having sex with my wife."
And I said "Bob, that's kind of a silly comparison, that's not what I meant."

It would your opinion that I was attacking Bob for enjoying sex with his wife.

That's excellent man. Well done.

 

[LordFisheh]

Well people do love to put MMO's down because they didn't enjoy them. Which as you know, doesn't just mean that they didn't enjoy them, but they are objectively 'not fun' and anyone who disagrees is WRONG. Everybody likes the same things after all. And with the Skinner box, we're now able to tell people who would swear they they're enjoying themselves that they are, in fact, not enjoying themselves and that they're only having 'fake fun'. Because fun has a clear definition and not at all defined by whether or not someone is enjoying something...

I've noticed people even here, in a show of blatant hypocrisy, condemning MMO's for being addictive and life destroying. I mean really. Accuse regular games of that here and everybody will tell you - it's a small minority, it's their own damn fault, games are not 'sad' nor do they make you a violent lunatic.

But say the same things about Warcraft and - oh yes, these MMO's suck out your soul and turn you into a brainless addict. I should know, it happened to my brother!

Bullshit.

Just as people who murder and blame CoD have only themselves to blame, people who can't tear themselves away from an MMO need to realise that it's their own goddamn fault, not the game's.

I think it's pretty simple why everyone hates MMOs. Why do people hate games? They're strange and they don't understand them and there are all these stories that they might be dodgy. And above all, they aren't 'us'. They're 'other'; a group outside of ordinary people (or so some like to think) and that makes them bad. If only they were like 'us', perfect group of demigods that we are.

Gamers are people too, and have exactly the same inclinations. Except they can't hate games, obviously, so they find a different 'other' in MMO players. They're strange, we don't understand them and there are all these stories... They aren't 'us'. But this time, gamers are right. And surely the papers do not think the same when they talk about violent video games... just like how Robespierre never actually thought that he was right and how terrorists all know that, actually, they're the bad guys. But we're special, and we really are objectively right.

Basically, it's quite embarrassing. We subject others to the same degrading, irrational disdain that we rail against when the media condemns us.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

Well people do love to put MMO's down because they didn't enjoy them. Which as you know, doesn't just mean that they didn't enjoy them, but they are objectively 'not fun' and anyone who disagrees is WRONG. Everybody likes the same things after all. And with the Skinner box, we're now able to tell people who would swear they they're enjoying themselves that they are, in fact, not enjoying themselves and that they're only having 'fake fun'. Because fun has a clear definition and not at all defined by whether or not someone is enjoying something...

I've noticed people even here, in a show of blatant hypocrisy, condemning MMO's for being addictive and life destroying. I mean really. Accuse regular games of that here and everybody will tell you - it's a small minority, it's their own damn fault, games are not 'sad' nor do they make you a violent lunatic.

But say the same things about Warcraft and - oh yes, these MMO's suck out your soul and turn you into a brainless addict. I should know, it happened to my brother!

Bullshit.

Just as people who murder and blame CoD have only themselves to blame, people who can't tear themselves away from an MMO need to realise that it's their own goddamn fault, not the game's.

I think it's pretty simple why everyone hates MMOs. Why do people hate games? They're strange and they don't understand them and there are all these stories that they might be dodgy. And above all, they aren't 'us'. They're 'other'; a group outside of ordinary people (or so some like to think) and that makes them bad. If only they were like 'us', perfect group of demigods that we are.

Gamers are people too, and have exactly the same inclinations. Except they can't hate games, obviously, so they find a different 'other' in MMO players. They're strange, we don't understand them and there are all these stories... They aren't 'us'. But this time, gamers are right. And surely the papers do not think the same when they talk about violent video games... just like how Robespierre never actually thought that he was right and how terrorists all know that, actually, they're the bad guys. But we're special, and we really are objectively right.

Basically, it's quite embarrassing. We subject others to the same degrading, irrational disdain that we rail against when the media condemns us.

Sir, I enjoyed your post so much, I went out and bought you this pie.

It's boysenberry.

 

[ms_sunlight]

I've noticed people even here, in a show of blatant hypocrisy, condemning MMO's for being addictive and life destroying. I mean really. Accuse regular games of that here and everybody will tell you - it's a small minority, it's their own damn fault, games are not 'sad' nor do they make you a violent lunatic.

You did make me giggle a little bit.

MMOs have no appeal for me; if you want to destroy my life, give me a strategy game or a roguelike. I lost 9 months of my life to Civ 2. Even though I mostly play action-adventure games and RPGs, no single game has ever come close to this level of extended damage except other strategy games.

 

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

It's a pretty observable trend that a sizable portion of this community hates Massively Multiplayer games, or specifically MMORPGS, in the vein of WoW, and TOR, etc. And when I say "hate", I mean ya'll just LOATHE them. As though they were some form of gaming herpes. You can feel the lips curling in disgust through the screen.

What's going on with that?

Is it the subscription fee? You know that most MMOs are designed to be played for hundreds of hours, yeah? On an hour per dollar basis, they're arguably one of the cheapest forms of entertainment in existence. Hating them for being too expensive is like hating Kraft Dinner for being too fancy.

Is it the fact you're forced to endure the company of other people? I can sort of understand that, because MMO communities are full of loathsome twats, but here we all are on an internet forum. You see what I'm getting at here, surely. You don't need me to spell it out for you.

Is it the fact a lot of you poor beggars are laboring away on consoles, instead of playing games on a PC like proper gamers? I KID, I KID.

Is it because you're all under the age of 20, and you don't have a credit card, or you do have a credit card, but it's full of charges for Ramen noodles and Eastern European porn?

I don't think I've ever seen such a polarizing genre of games in all my years of gaming. You're all such mean girls about it. I demand your hostile, sneering explanations, post haste.

i dont hate them, however you are close on the subscription thing.

the subscription thing, while yes i know a "per dollar" value, is the most annoying thing in the world to me, i tried it once and it CONSTANTLY ate away at me, if i wasn't playing the game i felt like i was losing money right out of my pocket, not to mention the fact that i never officially "owned" the game, i was just renting it out each month.

another thing that i hate is it's constant requirement to work in groups with others (yes yes i know, MMO part of the genre, don't need reminding.) and that i can't just be in a ever evolving world with others, instead of shoehorning me into constantly working with randoms.

another thing i don't like about mmo's are their story/character setups, i couldn't care less for pvp and constant grind setups, i'd rather go through the story at my own pace and beat the game concluding all that great time i spent going through the story/quests with my party of characters.

i know there are exceptions and i know this isn't describing every mmo, but i hate putting so much work into one game for one playthrough, and that's one thing i don't care to ever try when i have a huge backlog of games i'd much rather play.

 

[Jdb]

My definition for grinding - Preparing to play the game instead of playing it, and success doesn't mean advancement.

Preparation - Required power ups and skill levels are obtained in locations with little or nothing to do with the current mission or story.

Advancement - Completing an objective doesn't guarantee advancement to the next one. Examples - The player needs equipment from Boss One to defeat Boss Two; however, Boss One doesn't always drop his equipment upon defeat. The player completes a dungeon, but his skill level is too low to advance to the next one until he runs the current dungeon several times.