Whats wrong with todays cartoons?
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And about 3 buttons for destroying the world, and one broken butten that said "save the world. A gear shift that had "Save Jamie" on it and a Bruce Campbell/MODOK haybrid for a villian.Gryphonsflight said:
Awwww...:'( the creator did not rule out a third season though, so we shant give up hope!!Irridium said:
Well, I've pinned it to this:
*Sucky, too short, or complete lack of opening or closing theme songs to get you hyped up. Something you'd actually want to sing out loud all week. Why? Because modern music sucks & credits cut into precious commercial break time.
*Cartoons are shorter, you know, to make room for longer commercial breaks. The TV channels care more about the money they get from sponcers than they do about their ratings or the quality of their shows.
*Cutting costs by using flash animation or nonprofessional voice actors. Naturally it looks & sounds cheap too. In the olden days, more than half of the actually animation was done overseas, which is probably why they didn't look like shit.
*Networks still see cartoons as an entirely childish media & don't want to greenlight anything the PTA will send them letters of complaint & lawsuits for. Because today's Americans are 16 times as uppity & easily offended than they were 15 years ago.
*Decent animation aimed at teens & adults get lower ratings. Why? Because little kids are home all day & the older ones come home earlier.
*Political correctness & a total watering down of what's actually funny. If you have enjoyed most of the comedies of the past 10 years & think they're better than previous generations, congratulations; your sence of humor is on-par with a child's. Humor has been dumbed down to avoid offending anyone; no racial stereotypes, violence, gay humor, crossdressing, eating gross shit, vomiting, canibalism jokes, no taboos...you know, all the shit Looney Tunes, Animaniacs, Rocko's Modern Life, & Ren & Stimpy were nown for.
*The networks & writers think people are like lazy sheep who will watch whatever you put in front of them, & that they're just dumb. How can you tell? Because reality shows are still going stong when they should be a national embarassment.
*Sometimes, there's no focus. They put way to many characters into a 30 minute show that has 10-15 minutes of actual show between commercials. They want the viewers to be able to relate to the characters, so they make the star Joe Everybody; a total lamer who the whole world revolves around, or they'll just toss in representitives of different minorities or whatever. The only shows this probably worked great in are Batman, X-Men, & Gargoyles.
*No nostolgic value. They aren't classics & don't remind us of anything we saw as a kid. Reboots attract new audiences while pissing off fans of the classics.
*Sucky, too short, or complete lack of opening or closing theme songs to get you hyped up. Something you'd actually want to sing out loud all week. Why? Because modern music sucks & credits cut into precious commercial break time.
*Cartoons are shorter, you know, to make room for longer commercial breaks. The TV channels care more about the money they get from sponcers than they do about their ratings or the quality of their shows.
*Cutting costs by using flash animation or nonprofessional voice actors. Naturally it looks & sounds cheap too. In the olden days, more than half of the actually animation was done overseas, which is probably why they didn't look like shit.
*Networks still see cartoons as an entirely childish media & don't want to greenlight anything the PTA will send them letters of complaint & lawsuits for. Because today's Americans are 16 times as uppity & easily offended than they were 15 years ago.
*Decent animation aimed at teens & adults get lower ratings. Why? Because little kids are home all day & the older ones come home earlier.
*Political correctness & a total watering down of what's actually funny. If you have enjoyed most of the comedies of the past 10 years & think they're better than previous generations, congratulations; your sence of humor is on-par with a child's. Humor has been dumbed down to avoid offending anyone; no racial stereotypes, violence, gay humor, crossdressing, eating gross shit, vomiting, canibalism jokes, no taboos...you know, all the shit Looney Tunes, Animaniacs, Rocko's Modern Life, & Ren & Stimpy were nown for.
*The networks & writers think people are like lazy sheep who will watch whatever you put in front of them, & that they're just dumb. How can you tell? Because reality shows are still going stong when they should be a national embarassment.
*Sometimes, there's no focus. They put way to many characters into a 30 minute show that has 10-15 minutes of actual show between commercials. They want the viewers to be able to relate to the characters, so they make the star Joe Everybody; a total lamer who the whole world revolves around, or they'll just toss in representitives of different minorities or whatever. The only shows this probably worked great in are Batman, X-Men, & Gargoyles.
*No nostolgic value. They aren't classics & don't remind us of anything we saw as a kid. Reboots attract new audiences while pissing off fans of the classics.
Im in the middle. I loved Deters and Bravo and miss them like a old pet. Recently i thought the same thinking "WTf where the hell are MA cartoons!" then i looked closer and realized i loved them and that they were actually littered with references that i couldn't get a few years ago.
There are plenty of funny and well written shows like: Flapjack, CHowder,Ben 10 ultimate alien, Kids Next Door (it is recently on reruns), Batman the Brave and the Bold tho it might be to campy for some) , Generator Rex isn't bad and neither is the star wars cartoon.
But WTF is up with that total drama shit I mean do kids really watch that stuff ?
There are plenty of funny and well written shows like: Flapjack, CHowder,Ben 10 ultimate alien, Kids Next Door (it is recently on reruns), Batman the Brave and the Bold tho it might be to campy for some) , Generator Rex isn't bad and neither is the star wars cartoon.
But WTF is up with that total drama shit I mean do kids really watch that stuff ?
Watch Adventure Time or The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack.
Adventure Time is more of a "random" show, but is nonetheless full of humor. It is spontaneous and wild, and is just fun to watch. It isn't "clever" per-say, but really brings back the child-like nature we all used to have. It brings back how kids used to pretend to adventure, and gives it a fun kick.
Flapjack, on the other hand, is a show full of cleverly hidden, and sometimes quite apparent, dark humor. From the cartoony shaped humanoids, to the grotesquely detailed ones, it is also very fun to watch. Storyline-wise, it is also very random, but has more of a grit to its atmosphere. It is just fun to watch the hideous undertones and how they sneakily put them into the cartoon.
There are other cartoons I enjoy too, like Chowder. Chowder is a mesh of these other two cartoons. It has a lot of "inside jokes", which require knowledge of even some internet memes (such as the I like Turtles saying). If you know a lot of random funny information, you might notice them adding it in their story. It is basically a cartoon that makes fun of itself, because it knows its a cartoon and can go beyond the limits. I also like(d) the Ben10 series. The original Ben10 series. Not really a fan of the Alien Force stuff.
I do agree, many cartoons suck. Johnny Test sucks. 6teen, Total Drama Island, etc. are mediocre at best. Many of the Nickelodeon cartoons have lost their charm. Although the size of the great cartoons have diminished, there are still a few worthy contenders that I'd advice people to watch.
Adventure Time is more of a "random" show, but is nonetheless full of humor. It is spontaneous and wild, and is just fun to watch. It isn't "clever" per-say, but really brings back the child-like nature we all used to have. It brings back how kids used to pretend to adventure, and gives it a fun kick.
Flapjack, on the other hand, is a show full of cleverly hidden, and sometimes quite apparent, dark humor. From the cartoony shaped humanoids, to the grotesquely detailed ones, it is also very fun to watch. Storyline-wise, it is also very random, but has more of a grit to its atmosphere. It is just fun to watch the hideous undertones and how they sneakily put them into the cartoon.
There are other cartoons I enjoy too, like Chowder. Chowder is a mesh of these other two cartoons. It has a lot of "inside jokes", which require knowledge of even some internet memes (such as the I like Turtles saying). If you know a lot of random funny information, you might notice them adding it in their story. It is basically a cartoon that makes fun of itself, because it knows its a cartoon and can go beyond the limits. I also like(d) the Ben10 series. The original Ben10 series. Not really a fan of the Alien Force stuff.
I do agree, many cartoons suck. Johnny Test sucks. 6teen, Total Drama Island, etc. are mediocre at best. Many of the Nickelodeon cartoons have lost their charm. Although the size of the great cartoons have diminished, there are still a few worthy contenders that I'd advice people to watch.
I'm sorry, but new Tom and Jerry pales terribly in comparison to old Tom and Jerry. If keep going down this road, I shall weep for our children.Nannernade said:
If you want a good show, watch The Clone Wars.
For a kids show, its really dark, with flamethrowers, zombies, torture, and assassinations, all on screen.
For a kids show, its really dark, with flamethrowers, zombies, torture, and assassinations, all on screen.
God... here I am reading through this thread and someone mentions Johnny Bravo.
My mind flashes back to childhood, in my old house, sitting on the old sofa. The very first Johnny B. cartoon playing on TV (the one with the zoo) and a cheese and pickle sandwhich in my hands. I look down at this very moment...and I'm holding a cheese and pickle sandwhich.
I swear, a nostalgic tear was wept.
My mind flashes back to childhood, in my old house, sitting on the old sofa. The very first Johnny B. cartoon playing on TV (the one with the zoo) and a cheese and pickle sandwhich in my hands. I look down at this very moment...and I'm holding a cheese and pickle sandwhich.
I swear, a nostalgic tear was wept.
You should try to watch the newest Ben 10s they are alot more like the old ones. Alien Force felt like a drag for the first 2 seasons but when they got into the one villain per episode thing with a simi over arching story then it got back into the older good Ben 10Lawllerskater said:
Who else here agrees that nostalgia isn't making the past seem better, but things are just getting crappier as time goes on? I plead this defence in just about every element of todays society.
And that my friends, is how we know we're the LAST generation.
And that my friends, is how we know we're the LAST generation.
Well the only difference between cartoons and anime is the country you are in. Americanized anime blows because of the fcc and translation errors, while some of it is good most is garbage like naruto. The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy is actually more targeted towards teens and their "darkness" as I've heard so many goth/emo streotypes talk about when they claim their life is horrible just before they go hang out with their friends and smoke weed because they are "hardcore". Anyhow most cartoon makers are concerned with having a story than being cartoons with all the Buggs Bunny/Tom and Jerry violence because cartoon violence is bad according to one or two very annoying people who ruin the fun of everyone. Also we obviously can't forget stuff like Recess or Doug or Pepper Ann.
What you're describing is an annoying phenomenon know as The Animation Age Ghetto.XAdrianX said:
Read more here (tell a friend before you click): http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AnimationAgeGhetto
Once cartoons became heavily tied to children the writing (in some shows,others fought the downfall) began to suffer, as well as from interference from all the bleating Moral Guardians.
A newer cartoon that I would recommend would be Avatar: the Last Airbender. Different from most of the other shows mentioned because instead of dark or adult humor it focuses on plot and mature characterization and character development, with splashes of dark/adult humor for seasoning. It is probably one of my favorite shows ever, not just animated.
I bet if Disney re-rated their old movies, most would get a pg-13 rating. Look at Lion King, Simba's dad dies in it! I don't think any writer would have to balls to write something like that and market it for kids today. Not to mention back in the day cartoon writers had to have a brain to make a decent show that was family friendly. Note family friendly not just for kids but also for their parents. Kids are entertained by anything even if they don't get it. Also if they didn't get something they can ask someone else and learn something. Companies today find it cheaper to flash different colours and call it a show, and people wonder why so many kids have A.D.H.D.