I'm very glad someone else on this site thinks like this. I don't feel so alone now. Yay.Sniper Team 4 said:I believe sex is a special, meaningful act that you should share only with the person you are married to. I get some really weird looks from people when they first ask if I'm a virgin and I say yes, then they ask why and I give them that answer.
The fact that I believe in God also seems to be rather controversial, at least on this site.
I kinda feel the same way, but I feel that marriage requires more trust than sex (and that's saying a lot). I've not met someone I know that well and trust enough to share everything that I am with.Sniper Team 4 said:I believe sex is a special, meaningful act that you should share only with the person you are married to.
To support this; Babies aren't worth risking lives over period. My logic; who knows what the baby will amount to? Say the kid grows up to be a dictator? You can't know and (in my experience) you should always expect the worst of people, so just assume that (unless you have a logical reason to deem your life worthless) the kid will be the Antichrist (figuratively speaking).Jakub324 said:A baby isn't worth risking lives over until it's afraid of death and proved it might be useful in the future.
Sorry that was not what I was implying, there is a difference between reason and cold logic (I think anyway), I was merely saying that generally people who think creativity is of greater importance may view it from a different perspective and thus would be less likely of accepting a logic based argument. I am not saying that the other perspective is of higher or lower intelligence only that it is different. I didn't mean to imply any negativity in that. I never said anything about ignorance or being incapable of reason I think you are putting words in my mouth there. Also when I said "dismiss" I didn't mean ignore or disdain, merely that people that think creatively probably would not pay as much credit to an arguement that was purely logical, that doesn't make either right or wrong, but I probably could have worded that more clearly. All in all this is just an opinion of mine based on my own personal observations.Evil Top Hat said:I think that art is more important than science, that doesn't make me ignorant, and it doesn't mean that I will "dismiss" logical arguments and your view points just because they are different to mine. Don't think that just because my views are different to yours that I am incapable of reason.A Free Man said:That being said there is no way of us convincing you either considering that we would only argue with logic which you have already dismissed as being less important then the application of creativity.Evil Top Hat said:I think that art, music and other creative subjects are more important that stuff like science and maths.
PS: Keep in mind I understand that both aspects to culture are of vital significance I am just talking of a general relative greater importance.
It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.SonicKoala said:I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?Womplord said:No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.pigmypython said:Have you been raped lately?Womplord said:I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
No, it is not easy to speculate. I can't even believe that you (who probably considers themselves a fairly intelligent individual) would say something so ridiculous. First off, someone is putting their penis in you against your will, so that's an important aspect you failed to mention. Furthermore, as I alluded to before, unless you've been raped, you cannot speak on the effects. You simply cannot - at all, since you know nothing about it. Doing so is ignorant, and your downplaying of rape and its associated effects is profoundly disrespectful to those who have actually been raped.Womplord said:It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.SonicKoala said:I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?Womplord said:No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.pigmypython said:Have you been raped lately?Womplord said:I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
Saying that hitler was an awesome dude at parties and all those who stood in the way of his honorable deeds deserved their fate is an incredibly disrespectful thing to say due to the millions who died because of him. That doesn't stop the earlier statement from being either of the following: "controversial" or an "opinion". If you find a statement on here to be controversial to the point that it needs to be disputed I think you need to go back and read the title then check what is your issue with it being here.SonicKoala said:No, it is not easy to speculate. I can't even believe that you (who probably considers themselves a fairly intelligent individual) would say something so ridiculous. First off, someone is putting their penis in you against your will, so that's an important aspect you failed to mention. Furthermore, as I alluded to before, unless you've been raped, you cannot speak on the effects. You simply cannot - at all, since you know nothing about it. Doing so is ignorant, and your downplaying of rape and its associated effects is profoundly disrespectful to those who have actually been raped.Womplord said:It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.SonicKoala said:I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?Womplord said:No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.pigmypython said:Have you been raped lately?Womplord said:I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
Well I could say exactly the same thing about downplaying the effects of a heavy beating. Here are some of the effects that I encountered: Feeling really extremely depressed immediately afterwards, Feeling dopey for a few days afterwards (possibly a physical effect of it though), being constantly on edge long after it happens (like looking around behind you all the time, living in fear), inability to trust others for long after it happens, flashbacks of the event triggered by things. I never downplayed the effects of rape, I simply said that they were roughly the same level of severity. Although the effects may have been increased given that it was someone that I know and trust, and not some drunk guy at a bar. In short, YOU were the one who downplayed the effects of violence; I never downplayed the effects of rape. Finally, there is nothing wrong with discussion on a bad thing you never went through, it doesn't have to mean automatic offense to everyone who did.SonicKoala said:No, it is not easy to speculate. I can't even believe that you (who probably considers themselves a fairly intelligent individual) would say something so ridiculous. First off, someone is putting their penis in you against your will, so that's an important aspect you failed to mention. Furthermore, as I alluded to before, unless you've been raped, you cannot speak on the effects. You simply cannot - at all, since you know nothing about it. Doing so is ignorant, and your downplaying of rape and its associated effects is profoundly disrespectful to those who have actually been raped.Womplord said:It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.SonicKoala said:I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?Womplord said:No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.pigmypython said:Have you been raped lately?Womplord said:I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
Just because something can be classified as an opinion does not mean that it is exempt from scrutiny, especially when it is so incredibly flawed and debatable as the opinion regarding rape which I responded to initially - so flawed, in fact, that it's treading that fine line between not really being an opinion, but being an outright fallacy. I also don't believe that anyone who has not been raped even has the right to hold the opinion that "Rape isn't that bad". In my mind, having an opinion necessitates having background knowledge which one can use to defend their opinion should the need arise.Taylor6288 said:Saying that hitler was an awesome dude at parties and all those who stood in the way of his honorable deeds deserved their fate is an incredibly disrespectful thing to say due to the millions who died because of him. That doesn't stop the earlier statement from being either of the following: "controversial" or an "opinion". If you find a statement on here to be controversial to the point that it needs to be disputed I think you need to go back and read the title then check what is your issue with it being here.SonicKoala said:No, it is not easy to speculate. I can't even believe that you (who probably considers themselves a fairly intelligent individual) would say something so ridiculous. First off, someone is putting their penis in you against your will, so that's an important aspect you failed to mention. Furthermore, as I alluded to before, unless you've been raped, you cannot speak on the effects. You simply cannot - at all, since you know nothing about it. Doing so is ignorant, and your downplaying of rape and its associated effects is profoundly disrespectful to those who have actually been raped.Womplord said:It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.SonicKoala said:I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?Womplord said:No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.pigmypython said:Have you been raped lately?Womplord said:I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
Also, just so you don't go chomping on my man region for saying this, rape is bad. It's so bad that I cannot accurately imagine the mental trauma which it causes but to say it is impossible to do so is entirely unfounded given you don't know my or anyone else's imagination.
Unstoppable juggernaut? You do realise they lost all hope of victory at the Battle of Midway, right? That was in 1942. They were over muscled and out gunned ever since then. Their ruthless fighting was only delaying the inevitable. In fact, by July 1945 the Japanese Navy were completely unable to conduct any organised operation. I understand you were probably being hyperbole, but that's a ridiculous claim. In fact, the Japanese themselves only gave their military 16 months to beat the USA. They estimated that if it went any longer, they were defeated because their industry couldn't compete over a real war. Japan's only hope was a quick strike that would deter the USA from fighting them. You could argue Japan lost at Pearl Harbor, but Midway was a huge setback and it lost them the war.Chemical Horse said:I have to agree with you, but the truth is, during WWII Japan was an unstoppable juggernaut. They didn't know fear and they sure as hell didn't know defeat.