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Celtois

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I despise the USA. just flat out hate the country and most everything about it.

(I strongly suggest not responding to this. I'm not baiting or anything, just answering the OP, completely honestly.)
 

Xifel

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I honestly think I'm worth more than most of the people around me.

I pretty unusual as I am 24 and from a country that had conscription for the last 250 years, but in the recent years only a handful every year have been selected for mandatory military service (finanicial cutbacks). As I have given one year more for this country than most people I know, I believe I'm worth more, and sort of believe that they do not have the right to vote. Why should they be allowed to say anything for a nation that they haven't done anything for?

Also, I am a royalist. And that is controversial here!
 

Slenn

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I honestly don't know what to put down. I just like reading all the responses that people give. And most of them have to do with either reforming religion or getting rid of it entirely.

I feel like DeviantArt needs a makeover. Because there's always this dichotomy between the newb artists who draw bad anime and Sonic fanfiction and the very talented artists who actually deserve the comments they get. And there's a majority of people out there that are stuck in the middle getting no recognition because they're developing their own techniques, and they're not given credit where credit is due. Also the whole "pageviews" and "number of watchers" just makes the site more of a popularity fight. In retrospect, it's not the most developed art site despite the fact that it's been around for 5 or so years. That site is bittersweet to me, I've gotten a lot more comments on a lot of my artwork than on my geocities account, but I still dislike it a bit.
 

MisterShine

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I don't support same race relations.

No black people with black people, no european with european, no eastern asians with eastern asians..

I could say some stuff about how I think it'll reduce racism and cultural ignorance and shift focus away from programs looking to boost certain races from poverty and let us focus on helping everyone impoverished but...

It's really just mixed people are better looking. Plain and simple.
 

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I believe sex is a special, meaningful act that you should share only with the person you are married to. I get some really weird looks from people when they first ask if I'm a virgin and I say yes, then they ask why and I give them that answer.
The fact that I believe in God also seems to be rather controversial, at least on this site.
I'm very glad someone else on this site thinks like this. I don't feel so alone now. Yay.
 

Harlief

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Sniper Team 4 said:
I believe sex is a special, meaningful act that you should share only with the person you are married to.
I kinda feel the same way, but I feel that marriage requires more trust than sex (and that's saying a lot). I've not met someone I know that well and trust enough to share everything that I am with.
 
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I WOULD post an extensive rant about how Religion needs to dies for mankind to make any real progress, but that's a little overdone, so here's a new one:

Human life has very little value and killing someone can be justified in many different ways. Also, when an evil person dies, it is a good thing, morality be damned. I got so pissed off at the massive number of people whining about the Bin Laden death celebrations.
All I could think of was the lady in Warriors of Virtue screaming "IT WAS A LIFE!!!".
 

Taylor6288

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I don't usually bother to post on internet forums because I always assume that given the number of people on them at some point someone else is going to give the same opinion as me on the whatever.

However, this is a thread I really haven't seen before and while I wholeheartedly expected the huge amount of religion bashing I think (on this site at least) the vast majority of posters have given some deeply intriguing points. All this makes me wonder why on earth so many of these meaningful issues aren't being addressed by those in power.

Finally getting round to my answer to the actual question at hand, I will jump on the religion bashing band wagon but only so far as when it effects other people. For example, preachers and the like - deeply annoying and do more harm than good to their own cause I would have thought.

Also, human life is sometimes regarded a bit too highly (read on before you get angry over that) in cases such as murderers or any individual or group who significantly lessens the quality of life for others in some way. Kill them to stop them draining our resources and people who say that everyone deserves to live should be forced by law to pays the thousands to keep the more evil of our species alive. I believe that each person is responsible for their own life and grouping them together is largely pointless unless it comes from proven factual basis (an average british person lives longer than the average person from ethiopia can be proven, all teenagers are not knife wielding lunatics who learnt how to beat you to death from watching mario jump on things till they vanished from existence).

Lastly, not the most controversial thing in the world but it should be noted. All advertisers need to go away and learn another trade cos they are wasting time. Stop shoving shiny, flashy, brilliant, new thing down my throat and learn to teach or something useful.

In 2008 USA spent $412.4 billion on advertising and marketing but only $2 billion on food aid for poverty ridden countries and of that $2b only one third was on food because even the shining beacon of niceness that is the USA can't help but take a slice of every last cake it can get its hands on even if it's a cake they baked for the starving orphan kid sat in the corner.

Very sorry for the long post and if you read then please repeat any points you deem of particular note - all too often listening seems to be a skill forgotten by most when desperate to have their own voice heard.
 

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I believe that people should not be scorned simply because they aren't you. I also believe that the nameless, faces masses that we heap abuse on are billions of people that are just as important, unique and intelligent as you. They all have hopes, fears, dreams, worries, desires and are wholly, wonderfully, horribly, completely HUMAN and they deserve some FUCKING RESPECT.

Seriously, I can't express how much I fucking hate this cynical, knee jerk, generalization of your fellow human beings.

It's nothing but making yourself feel good by making every one else look stupider, meaner and dumber.

And we're SURROUNDED by this meme that the common human is dumb, brutal, savage and a minute away from harming everyone around them. It makes me want to spit. The vast vast VAST majority of people are good.

It's the minority who fuck things up. AND WE KEEP ELECTING THEM TO PLACES OF POWER! THAT'S JUST WHAT THEY WANT US TO DO! AARRGH
 

LordSnakeEyes

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A baby isn't worth risking lives over until it's afraid of death and proved it might be useful in the future.
To support this; Babies aren't worth risking lives over period. My logic; who knows what the baby will amount to? Say the kid grows up to be a dictator? You can't know and (in my experience) you should always expect the worst of people, so just assume that (unless you have a logical reason to deem your life worthless) the kid will be the Antichrist (figuratively speaking).
Next point; I don't think it counts as even a human being unless it can survive for over a minute in a room of normal temperature, stoping it's gestation only prevents another "unwanted" human from coming to life.

Finally; Religion should have no bearing on anything but morality. Science and economics should be exempt from needing to cope with any morality as well.
 

A Free Man

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Evil Top Hat said:
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I think that art, music and other creative subjects are more important that stuff like science and maths.
That being said there is no way of us convincing you either considering that we would only argue with logic which you have already dismissed as being less important then the application of creativity.

PS: Keep in mind I understand that both aspects to culture are of vital significance I am just talking of a general relative greater importance.
I think that art is more important than science, that doesn't make me ignorant, and it doesn't mean that I will "dismiss" logical arguments and your view points just because they are different to mine. Don't think that just because my views are different to yours that I am incapable of reason.
Sorry that was not what I was implying, there is a difference between reason and cold logic (I think anyway), I was merely saying that generally people who think creativity is of greater importance may view it from a different perspective and thus would be less likely of accepting a logic based argument. I am not saying that the other perspective is of higher or lower intelligence only that it is different. I didn't mean to imply any negativity in that. I never said anything about ignorance or being incapable of reason I think you are putting words in my mouth there. Also when I said "dismiss" I didn't mean ignore or disdain, merely that people that think creatively probably would not pay as much credit to an arguement that was purely logical, that doesn't make either right or wrong, but I probably could have worded that more clearly. All in all this is just an opinion of mine based on my own personal observations.
 

Womplord

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SonicKoala said:
Womplord said:
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I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
Have you been raped lately?
No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.
I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?
It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.
 

SonicKoala

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Womplord said:
SonicKoala said:
Womplord said:
pigmypython said:
Womplord said:
I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
Have you been raped lately?
No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.
I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?
It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.
No, it is not easy to speculate. I can't even believe that you (who probably considers themselves a fairly intelligent individual) would say something so ridiculous. First off, someone is putting their penis in you against your will, so that's an important aspect you failed to mention. Furthermore, as I alluded to before, unless you've been raped, you cannot speak on the effects. You simply cannot - at all, since you know nothing about it. Doing so is ignorant, and your downplaying of rape and its associated effects is profoundly disrespectful to those who have actually been raped.
 

Taylor6288

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SonicKoala said:
Womplord said:
SonicKoala said:
Womplord said:
pigmypython said:
Womplord said:
I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
Have you been raped lately?
No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.
I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?
It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.
No, it is not easy to speculate. I can't even believe that you (who probably considers themselves a fairly intelligent individual) would say something so ridiculous. First off, someone is putting their penis in you against your will, so that's an important aspect you failed to mention. Furthermore, as I alluded to before, unless you've been raped, you cannot speak on the effects. You simply cannot - at all, since you know nothing about it. Doing so is ignorant, and your downplaying of rape and its associated effects is profoundly disrespectful to those who have actually been raped.
Saying that hitler was an awesome dude at parties and all those who stood in the way of his honorable deeds deserved their fate is an incredibly disrespectful thing to say due to the millions who died because of him. That doesn't stop the earlier statement from being either of the following: "controversial" or an "opinion". If you find a statement on here to be controversial to the point that it needs to be disputed I think you need to go back and read the title then check what is your issue with it being here.

Also, just so you don't go chomping on my man region for saying this, rape is bad. It's so bad that I cannot accurately imagine the mental trauma which it causes but to say it is impossible to do so is entirely unfounded given you don't know my or anyone else's imagination.
 

Womplord

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SonicKoala said:
Womplord said:
SonicKoala said:
Womplord said:
pigmypython said:
Womplord said:
I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
Have you been raped lately?
No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.
I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?
It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.
No, it is not easy to speculate. I can't even believe that you (who probably considers themselves a fairly intelligent individual) would say something so ridiculous. First off, someone is putting their penis in you against your will, so that's an important aspect you failed to mention. Furthermore, as I alluded to before, unless you've been raped, you cannot speak on the effects. You simply cannot - at all, since you know nothing about it. Doing so is ignorant, and your downplaying of rape and its associated effects is profoundly disrespectful to those who have actually been raped.
Well I could say exactly the same thing about downplaying the effects of a heavy beating. Here are some of the effects that I encountered: Feeling really extremely depressed immediately afterwards, Feeling dopey for a few days afterwards (possibly a physical effect of it though), being constantly on edge long after it happens (like looking around behind you all the time, living in fear), inability to trust others for long after it happens, flashbacks of the event triggered by things. I never downplayed the effects of rape, I simply said that they were roughly the same level of severity. Although the effects may have been increased given that it was someone that I know and trust, and not some drunk guy at a bar. In short, YOU were the one who downplayed the effects of violence; I never downplayed the effects of rape. Finally, there is nothing wrong with discussion on a bad thing you never went through, it doesn't have to mean automatic offense to everyone who did.
 

SonicKoala

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Taylor6288 said:
SonicKoala said:
Womplord said:
SonicKoala said:
Womplord said:
pigmypython said:
Womplord said:
I think the psychological effects of being raped are no worse than a violent beating.
Have you been raped lately?
No. Have you? Have you been violently beaten lately? I just can't see a logical reason why rape would do worse than a violent beating... maybe a very violent beating would be a more appropriate term but still. I mean the kind of beating when someone has you pinned against the ground and you are dreading the next punch, but you can't move you hands because their knees are pressed on your arms with all their body weight and you have to keep enduring the seemingly endless incoming punches. By the end, you are a bloody, teary mess lying on the ground. It takes a long time to get over something like that.
I don't really see how you can come to such a conclusion unless you have been raped yourself. Have you been raped? If not, how can you even begin to speculate on the psychological effects that would come from such a traumatic event?
It's easy to speculate. I mean, I know what rape IS. Someone puts their penis in you. Woop. Yes I can see how it would be humiliating and degrading, but there's no way it's the way everyone treats it, like it's a fate worse than death.
No, it is not easy to speculate. I can't even believe that you (who probably considers themselves a fairly intelligent individual) would say something so ridiculous. First off, someone is putting their penis in you against your will, so that's an important aspect you failed to mention. Furthermore, as I alluded to before, unless you've been raped, you cannot speak on the effects. You simply cannot - at all, since you know nothing about it. Doing so is ignorant, and your downplaying of rape and its associated effects is profoundly disrespectful to those who have actually been raped.
Saying that hitler was an awesome dude at parties and all those who stood in the way of his honorable deeds deserved their fate is an incredibly disrespectful thing to say due to the millions who died because of him. That doesn't stop the earlier statement from being either of the following: "controversial" or an "opinion". If you find a statement on here to be controversial to the point that it needs to be disputed I think you need to go back and read the title then check what is your issue with it being here.

Also, just so you don't go chomping on my man region for saying this, rape is bad. It's so bad that I cannot accurately imagine the mental trauma which it causes but to say it is impossible to do so is entirely unfounded given you don't know my or anyone else's imagination.
Just because something can be classified as an opinion does not mean that it is exempt from scrutiny, especially when it is so incredibly flawed and debatable as the opinion regarding rape which I responded to initially - so flawed, in fact, that it's treading that fine line between not really being an opinion, but being an outright fallacy. I also don't believe that anyone who has not been raped even has the right to hold the opinion that "Rape isn't that bad". In my mind, having an opinion necessitates having background knowledge which one can use to defend their opinion should the need arise.
 

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I have to agree with you, but the truth is, during WWII Japan was an unstoppable juggernaut. They didn't know fear and they sure as hell didn't know defeat.
Unstoppable juggernaut? You do realise they lost all hope of victory at the Battle of Midway, right? That was in 1942. They were over muscled and out gunned ever since then. Their ruthless fighting was only delaying the inevitable. In fact, by July 1945 the Japanese Navy were completely unable to conduct any organised operation. I understand you were probably being hyperbole, but that's a ridiculous claim. In fact, the Japanese themselves only gave their military 16 months to beat the USA. They estimated that if it went any longer, they were defeated because their industry couldn't compete over a real war. Japan's only hope was a quick strike that would deter the USA from fighting them. You could argue Japan lost at Pearl Harbor, but Midway was a huge setback and it lost them the war.

Secondly, to suggest the Japanese did not know defeat is ludicrous. They made numerous attempts to negotiate a surrender with both Russia and the United States, however the USA wanted to control Japan and wanted the Japanese to denounce their Emperor. This was a red herring, because Truman knew full well that they would never comply. It's a fake negotiation, and you see it a few times in history. Another infamous time was during the build up to World War 1, when Austria issued ridiculous lists of demands to Serbia. You pretend like you are negotiating, but really all you are doing is making sure you give demands that your enemy won't accept. You look like you tried, but you didn't.

The United States wanted to drop the nuclear bomb on Japan, and they had every intention of doing so. They wanted to test the effects of the bomb, to flex their military power and they wanted to beat the Russians to the punch.

The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bomb supporters will often say that the atomic bomb prevented a full scale land invasion of Japan that would have killed millions more. This is A-Grade nonsense and there is not one reliable piece of evidence that indicates the Japanese governance and hierarchy would have actually fought for that long. The Japanese rulership clearly wanted out of the fight, but they wanted to go out with pride. The USA wanted Japan, they wanted to become a superpower and they sure as hell didn't want the Russians getting there first. They dropped the bomb because of this.

Negotiations could have been made, and there was not one realistic attempt of negotiation made from the USA. They kept pushing negotiations they knew the Japanese would decline to stall time and to make it appear that they tried diplomacy. They didn't. In fact, in January 1945, General MacArthur send President Roosevelt a Japanese offer to surrender. The Japanese surrender negotiations actually entailed the dissolution of the Emperor, and that he would only remain in a ceremonial role. The surrender was declined straight away. Seven months later, the exact same offer of surrender was accepted. I don't see any of this as "evil" I see it as reality, and this stuff happens. Winners win and the losers lose hard.

That's my "controversial!" opinion :).