What's Your Opinion on Supermodels ??

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Onjenae said:
the clothes are not made to be worn by the general public *rolleyes* msot of them are jsut concept clothing and showcases of different designs the designer has come out with rarely will you see somebody in real life wearing something shown at a fashion show
You have to admit it's a bit odd, organising huge glamorous shows for the industry's top talent to show off their high concept fashion when all they do afterwards is go back to selling regular clothes. Or if you are Ralph Lauren you get back to your logo stitching machine and churn another 10,000 polo shirts. Does that guy ever bring out new designs?

Sure, it's nice and a spectacle and all. But seems a little... pointless if you aren't even advertising a product. It's almost like there is a disconnect between what the designers want to achieve and what they actually end up doing.

The only other industry that I'm aware of that does this is the car industry and at least their concept cars are actually driven occasionally.
 

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I think very few supermodels are hot. For the ones that are, I oddly don't even tend to find them overly attractive anyway. It's sort of a weird too "perfect" to be real thing like they look more like dolls than actual people. Combine that with my perference for more real looking curvy girls and you get an interesting result.
 

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I think a lot of it is that those "designs" are considered more a work of art than practical wear sometimes... it's like those stupid art shows where they have pieces made out of trash glued together... sure people will all come, look at it and chat about it as art but no one would ever want it in their living room
Sure, I get the point of high fashion as works of art. What I don't see the point of is having these events dominated by companies that create mass-produced products.

Fashion is an art. Clothes are consumer goods. Consumer goods =/= Art.
 

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It kind of depends on the type. The one's who are showing off their own designs, I support because they are helping influence the upper class designs. At the same time I feel they are insignificant as a whole due to the majority deciding on what the fashion retailers produce and make most their profit from. Some are just stagegirls who I think are just there for the money so I am split between disliking them for selling out versus admiring them for taking advantage of the insane people who fund these things.
 

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Onjenae said:
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Supermodels? Waste of a life, but as long as no one tries to force me to look at their derpy outfits or give them any of my money I couldn't care less.

Really, the fashion industry as a whole has nothing to do with reality, the general human experience, nor does it in anyway contribute to the world.

So I couldn't care less.
smae can be said a video games and gamers ? because honestly who sits around and palys video games all day and what use do they really have for the rest of society ??????
First of all, if you are going to quote me please have the decency to write intelligibly. Anyway, if I understand you correctly, then yes there is an argument to be made there.

The difference for me is that from what I have seen and read the people who pay attention to "fashion" like to pretend that it actually fucking matters, or that other people should in anyway care. Whereas your normal gamer realizes that they are buying and enjoying an entertainment product, nothing more.

Also, my main point was that fashion shows involve a bunch of wealthy people watching other people (usually very bizarre looking or even quite ugly people) walk around in derpy looking costumes (because let's face it they don't usually qualify as actual clothing) that no one else will ever wear or buy. And the entire thing ends up costing millions of dollars... why?

Now if you are simply talking about models on magazine covers wearing actual clothes, then yeah it's just somebody advertising a product. Boring. Largely unnecessary. But, whatever.
 

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Liquidacid23 said:
I dunno but if I had to guess I would have to say it's all about publicity and name recognition.. again like you said .. kinda the same deal with the concept cars
Except the fashion industry's concepts don't really suggest a new creative direction for the company. I don't need to watch every fashion show to know that colours are going to come in, and out of fashion. Because that's all the difference it seems to make in the end.

I have a sneaky suspicion, high street fashion is more dictated by the celebrities attending the fashion shows, than the models and designers involved in them...

It seems like a fashion show is really just a show by designers for designers... Everyone else just waits 5 months and buys whatever Vougue tells them to.
 

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They're nothing more than mannequins with a pulse.
And as such, treating them as if they deserve anything, least of all your attention or consideration, is a bit idiotic.
Don't get me wrong, I'd treat them with the respect I'd treat any other human being, but I certainly wouldn't laud their 'talents'.
Even using the word "talent" in regards to modeling is an exaggeration. Being able to wear clothing, and walk is not a talent. Nevertheless just as you said I would treat them with the same respect which I offer any other human being.
I think its less about talent and more about being insane enough to fuck up your body that badly to get to their insane standards. I can honestly see it getting as cruel as the current dog show industry.

Which is disgusting.
 

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Onjenae said:
the clothes are not made to be worn by the general public *rolleyes* msot of them are jsut concept clothing and showcases of different designs the designer has come out with rarely will you see somebody in real life wearing something shown at a fashion show
You have to admit it's a bit odd, organising huge glamorous shows for the industry's top talent to show off their high concept fashion when all they do afterwards is go back to selling regular clothes. Or if you are Ralph Lauren you get back to your logo stitching machine and churn another 10,000 polo shirts. Does that guy ever bring out new designs?

Sure, it's nice and a spectacle and all. But seems a little... pointless if you aren't even advertising a product. It's almost like there is a disconnect between what the designers want to achieve and what they actually end up doing.

The only other industry that I'm aware of that does this is the car industry and at least their concept cars are actually driven occasionally.
now i admit i dont get it either but its fun to watch and why do the men keep coming in here commenting on the models looks omg fasshion industry does not exist for the owmen to look for men

even if the girls were at a healthy weighy

some of the guys responding seem to think the world revolves around what heterosexual men find attractive as a woman im glad everything doesnt pander to straight men

its get tiring seeing the fan service giving to men everywhere in commercials,books,video games etc
 

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Liquidacid23 said:
Raven said:
Liquidacid23 said:
I think a lot of it is that those "designs" are considered more a work of art than practical wear sometimes... it's like those stupid art shows where they have pieces made out of trash glued together... sure people will all come, look at it and chat about it as art but no one would ever want it in their living room
Sure, I get the point of high fashion as works of art. What I don't see the point of is having these events dominated by companies that create mass-produced products.

Fashion is an art. Clothes are consumer goods. Consumer goods =/= Art.
I dunno but if I had to guess I would have to say it's all about publicity and name recognition.. again like you said .. kinda the same deal with the concept cars
thats true

except concept cars dont really draw the same contempt models do i think msot of it comes from being told said model is attractive or and over again.


on the other hand i think most male models are very gorgeous and they do look like guys i see on the street but with better bodies, bone structure and a confidence that msot men seem to lack

i remember going to a fashion show and all the boys had six packs the ladies were in there dying so many sexy men lmaooo too bad the fashion industry doesnt pander to the almight straight male lmaooo
 

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MEH.

I really don't care one way or the other. I mean... they're pretty, I guess. The male models tend to be sexable to the eyes and I'll probably do some eye sexing when I see one. But... that's it. I suppose I probably think it's impressive you are a model especially when I watch reality shows like "America's Next Top Model" and see why people don't make it as a model.

But yeah... nothing special.
 

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They lack superpowers. And are very likely to have psychological problems, eating disorders, and drug addictions. If that's what it takes to be super, I'm so happy to be lame.
 

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Liquidacid23 said:
maybe.. but they have to be making a profit off doing it some how otherwise they wouldn't do it... they are businesses after all...

to be honest they probably make enough off of advertisements from broadcasting it and admission prices from people who just want to see those celebrities that are there or "rub noses" with them as an ego stroke to turn a profit and justify it
Hmm, not sure if profit making or circle jerking...
Onjenae said:
now i admit i dont get it either but its fun to watch and why do the men keep coming in here commenting on the models looks omg fasshion industry does not exist for the owmen to look for men

even if the girls were at a healthy weighy

some of tyhe guys responding are dumb and sound sexiest
The shows are pretty cool, and despite popular opinion, cat-walking to supermodel standards ain't no walk in the park.

Well, you asked what does everyone think of models. I have to admit, I'm having difficulty understanding what you are saying because of the way you are writing...

Are you wondering why people in this thread view models as unhealthy and accusing the industry of forcing them to look a certain way to offer what the industry thinks is pleasing to men? (an interesting debate)

Or are you wondering why people are commenting about the models appearances as women instead of as a fashion models? (As in "that model is freaky, would not bang"?)

If it's that last one, it's not sexism it's just human nature. When women read fashion magazines they look at the clothes. Men ignore the clothes and focus on the women, because most men have no interest in clothes... Well, that's what me and a female friend agreed on.

Again, asking people what they think of models is a double question since models are both women and clothes hangers... On a site predominately populated by males who by definition, usually don't care for fashion. Which by the way, has nothing to do with being a nerd or whatever it is you assume they are. It's not surprising no-one is stepping forward with an opinion about fashion itself.

And there is a negative stereotype surrounding models. Skinny, dumb, blah blah...
 

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Onjenae said:
its get tiring seeing the fan service giving to men everywhere in commercials,books,video games etc
It's tiring for men who don't objectify women too... But hey ho, sex sells right?
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oh my god he looks like commander shepard!
 

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Raven said:
Liquidacid23 said:
maybe.. but they have to be making a profit off doing it some how otherwise they wouldn't do it... they are businesses after all...

to be honest they probably make enough off of advertisements from broadcasting it and admission prices from people who just want to see those celebrities that are there or "rub noses" with them as an ego stroke to turn a profit and justify it
Hmm, not sure if profit making or circle jerking...
Onjenae said:
now i admit i dont get it either but its fun to watch and why do the men keep coming in here commenting on the models looks omg fasshion industry does not exist for the owmen to look for men

even if the girls were at a healthy weighy

some of tyhe guys responding are dumb and sound sexiest
The shows are pretty cool, and despite popular opinion, cat-walking to supermodel standards ain't no walk in the park.

Well, you asked what does everyone think of models. I have to admit, I'm having difficulty understanding what you are saying because of the way you are writing...

Are you wondering why people in this thread view models as unhealthy and accusing the industry of forcing them to look a certain way to offer what the industry thinks is pleasing to men? (an interesting debate)

Or are you wondering why people are commenting about the models appearances as women instead of as a fashion models? (As in "that model is freaky, would not bang"?)

If it's that last one, it's not sexism it's just human nature. When women read fashion magazines they look at the clothes. Men ignore the clothes and focus on the women, because most men have no interest in clothes... Well, that's what me and a female friend agreed on.

Again, asking people what they think of models is a double question since models are both women and clothes hangers... On a site predominately populated by males who by definition, usually don't care for fashion. Which by the way, has nothing to do with being a nerd or whatever it is you assume they are. It's not surprising no-one is stepping forward with an opinion about fashion itself.

And there is a negative stereotype surrounding models. Skinny, dumb, blah blah...
sorry about that i went back and edited my post lol im typing on my phone and having trouble with this touch screen lol

well men not carting for fashion depends on where you are in europe i notice the men tend to be more well put together,clean cut and overall the put more thoguht into their apperance than american males

in america when a man is clean cut and dresses nice you guys label him gay lol i dont understand that i love a well dressed man


btw yes i was wondering why the men kept talking about the model's apperance i can see if we were talking about playboy models,fhm models,video vixens,porn stars or even swimsuit models but im not i am talking about runway models so there apperance really doesnt matter

i already know a good portion of me n would bang the other set of models lol they already spend large amounts of time jacking off to their pictures