What's Your Opinion on Supermodels ??

[bobmus]

-snip-

I wasn't referring to this thread - there are a lot of threads on here full of misogyny - and yes, the nice guys do seem to think they're entitled to women just because they're nice, and seem pretty bitter about it.

Being nice does not mean I'm going to like you or give two shits about you; the sooner nice guys learn that, the easier it will be for them to handle rejection and stop blaming all their problems on the women who reject them.

Did you read that thread? A lot of those guys were acting like just because a female was nice to them, and he listens to her ***** and complain, he was entitled to a relationship with her, when truly he is not.

Nice guys annoy me. I hate them so I'm done with this subject.

[small]I tidied this up to be in the English language.[/small]

You claimed that nice guys 'hate and absolutely despise women', and now you say you hate nice guys? Which is it?

I presume here we are talking about the stereotypical 'nice guy', who feels entitled to a relationship for being nice to someone. This is not a nice guy, this is a whining douche. They may feel bitter towards the women who have rejected their advances, but I don't think 'most of them' hate women in general (as you claimed) because of this!

These people are the exception to the rule, and to say that 'most of the guys on here' are like that is exceptionally offensive to the community as a whole. I would ask you to retract that statement.

 

[solemnwar]

The only thing I can say is that I find it fucking hilarious that "plus size" models are average sized ladies in the real world (least last time I looked at 'em).

I laughed so hard when I found that out.

 

[TheVioletBandit]

Okay, I see your point, and I would have to agree. If a model is able to express powerful emotion though body language or kinesthetics while on the runway at a level that is above average then I agree; I have never seen such a thing, but if it's real I agree.

I've caught a couple of programs on it (thanks to the ex), it's quite an interesting process how these elaborate shots are composed taking into account the settings, the costumes and the general vibe of the shoot. The model is the final piece of the puzzle, without them there just isn't anything to focus on. The best photo models can just grab you with their eyes and make you feel or think things that can be completely unexpected.

As I said earlier in an another post, I don't particularly care for fashion but I do likes my art. I can assure you, supermodels work just as hard as any other creative individual. Imagine yourself being asked "Okay violet, I want you to give me a look that says "I dare you to follow me into wonderland"... What would you do?

Another key thing is how do you separate glamour modelling (which is anything aimed at objectifying the model and making themselves as "sexy" as possible) and professional underwear modelling? Talent... Look at the two pictures here bare in mind the above paragraph, I hope it will highlight the difference...

Spoiler

Apart from moderate arousal, I feel nothing for this picture. I don't care who she is, I don't care what she's thinking (likely not much) her job is to stand there and look pretty. Wam bam thankyou mam.

Spoiler

The Victoria's Secret model however, Well hello there... Suddenly you have a much higher arousal factor (and the you can look like me factor for the ladies, the intended audience believe it or not). Suddenly the game has changed, I'm now wondering who this woman is and I'm dying to know what she means by that look... It's hooked me in and if I can tear myself away for a minute, I might just notice the advert and buy a set of VS undies for the missus.

Catching on?

Yeah, I see what your getting at, though the second image isn't as exciting to me as say a work of Gustave Klimt's who could make a women seem powerful, beautiful, and sexy instead of just striping them down and having them put on their best come hither look. It's cool that your into art though; I happen to be an artist myself, and am going to graduate school for art.

 

[TheVioletBandit]

So as modeling goes you could say something like, I want to be a model because I don't have the talent or intelligence to do anything else, but you would never say I want to be a model because I am so talented.

Except this is completely incorrect. Great models aren't considered great because they look skinnier, prettier or wear clothes better. Think of fashion photography, the task for a model to evoke feeling from a static image is a talent. It takes hard work to achieve and even then there are thousands of girls who don't make the cut. The model has to work with the photographer, respond to his/her cues to produce the result. If you think it is all the photographers skill you would be wrong.

The same with runway modelling. It takes the same feats of self discipline, grace and rhythm required by ballet dancers, gymnasts and figure skaters. The only difference is pace...

Okay, I see your point, and I would have to agree. If a model is able to express powerful emotion though body language or kinesthetics while on the runway at a level that is above average then I agree; I have never seen such a thing, but if it's real I agree.

maybe not on the runway but if you watched the two videos i posted alot of thoes ladies take amazing pictures.

i know alot of beautiful woman and no maount of photoshop or makeup is going to make them look like that because generally they take horrible photos the type of female who looks better in person than she does in pictures

on the other hand alot of models look betteer in pictures than they do in person some of them look absolutely stunning in there pictures but horrible in person and they really know how to sell what ever there modeling.

btw you dudes keep seeming to ignore other models exist besides runway models victoria secert models,swimsuit models, sports illustrated,commercial models,glamour models which are the type of models you guys spend your time masturbating to the tend to have big fake breasts,bleach blonde hair and appear in magazines like playboy,fhm,maxim etc

Do you ever post anything that doesn't have an insulting sexist generalization in it? Also this is like the third or fourth post I have read of yours where you talk about the male escapist users jacking off to something. Why do you think you know what we jack off to or if we jack off at all? and why are you so obsession with us jacking off in the first place? You obviously hate men or at least "ugly nerds" as you call them, so can we just keep my dick and what I do, or don't do with it out of the conversation.

 

[Vault101]

as far as I know modeling is not as glamourous as it may seem...aside from it being highly competitive and short lived..you dont even get paid that much

 

[TheVioletBandit]

the clothes are not made to be worn by the general public *rolleyes* msot of them are jsut concept clothing and showcases of different designs the designer has come out with rarely will you see somebody in real life wearing something shown at a fashion show

You have to admit it's a bit odd, organising huge glamorous shows for the industry's top talent to show off their high concept fashion when all they do afterwards is go back to selling regular clothes. Or if you are Ralph Lauren you get back to your logo stitching machine and churn another 10,000 polo shirts. Does that guy ever bring out new designs?

Sure, it's nice and a spectacle and all. But seems a little... pointless if you aren't even advertising a product. It's almost like there is a disconnect between what the designers want to achieve and what they actually end up doing.

The only other industry that I'm aware of that does this is the car industry and at least their concept cars are actually driven occasionally.

now i admit i dont get it either but its fun to watch and why do the men keep coming in here commenting on the models looks omg fasshion industry does not exist for the owmen to look for men

even if the girls were at a healthy weighy

some of the guys responding seem to think the world revolves around what heterosexual men find attractive as a woman im glad everything doesnt pander to straight men

its get tiring seeing the fan service giving to men everywhere in commercials,books,video games etc

It's interesting how you see men talking about the appearance of models as annoy when just the other day you where going on about nerds being "ugly as hell" and thought that was perfectly acceptable.

i never said nerds was ugly as hell i said nice guys were big difference. Also when it comes to nice guys and models is there are actually a groups of people who find models appealing on the other hand most women dont find nice guys appealing at least self proclaimed "nice guys" and my vagina sure doesnt find nice guys appealing lol a nice guys is like a limp dick he is utterly useless and i dont want it


i rather have this

Your personality is disgusting, and since you seem to pride yourself on being base and vulgar let me put it to you in words you'll understand. The only man that would ever want your vagina is the one that has yet to have heard you speak. It's funny that you said, "a nice guys is like a limp dick he is utterly useless" when your very personality makes dicks limp. By your own definition you breed uselessness.

 

[Sean Steele]

The models don't matter they are simply decoration for the product the designer is presenting. In the case of the high fashion industry that could range anywhere from a unique pattern or combination of clothes to an overly foppish impractical concept piece. (Most things in high fashion are not meant to be worn in the same way that a lot of art is meant to be abstract.)

At the end of the day fashion models are the most over glorified picture frames available.

 

[TheVioletBandit]

Do you ever post anything that doesn't have an insulting sexist generalization in it? Also this is like the third or fourth post I have read of yours where you talk about the male escapist users jacking off to something. Why do you think you know what we jack off to or if we jack off at all? and why are you so obsession with us jacking off in the first place? You obviously hate men or at least "ugly nerds" as you call them, so can we just keep my dick and what I do, or don't do with it out of the conversation.

what was sexiest about my statement honestly i have read through threads on here and there are several male posters on here who prove my generalizations to be true so stfu. Obviously u jack off because you get no pussy duh lmaoo it does not take a genius to figure out you and the other bitter ***** made nice guys dont get laid very often especially with the attitudes yall towards women. im done talking with your lame ass bye

And that was the fifth time you've talked about me jacking off, are you sexually harassing me?

 

[fluffybunny937]

The thing about supermodels is that you got to consider what they look like before make-up and photoshop.

 

[museofdoom]

The models don't matter they are simply decoration for the product the designer is presenting. In the case of the high fashion industry that could range anywhere from a unique pattern or combination of clothes to an overly foppish impractical concept piece. (Most things in high fashion are not meant to be worn in the same way that a lot of art is meant to be abstract.)

At the end of the day fashion models are the most over glorified picture frames available.

Um. Those "picture frames" have feelings, and the capacity to generate thoughts.

I'm really loving how choosing to pursue modeling as a career = not being a human.

Models generally love what they do. The fashion industry is cut throat and can rip people to shreds. I actually give models a ton of credit for putting up with being tossed about, having their flaws pointed out to them daily, people thinking they're just walking clothes hangers, etc. I think models are really strong individuals.

 

[Sean Steele]

The models don't matter they are simply decoration for the product the designer is presenting. In the case of the high fashion industry that could range anywhere from a unique pattern or combination of clothes to an overly foppish impractical concept piece. (Most things in high fashion are not meant to be worn in the same way that a lot of art is meant to be abstract.)

At the end of the day fashion models are the most over glorified picture frames available.

Um. Those "picture frames" have feelings, and the capacity to generate thoughts.

I'm really loving how choosing to pursue modeling as a career = not being a human.

Models generally love what they do. The fashion industry is cut throat and can rip people to shreds. I actually give models a ton of credit for putting up with being tossed about, having their flaws pointed out to them daily, people thinking they're just walking clothes hangers, etc. I think models are really strong individuals.

No offense meant but it dose still hold true, they are in their profession, decoration used by an artist to highlight their work. No different from the track lighting around the Mona Lisa. Honestly I don't really understand the concept of finding the people behind the art compelling. I don't care about them as individuals in the same way that I don't care about any famous person's private life, it is irrelevant to what they do occupationally. Fashion again, is about the work of designers models are just a pretty way of displaying that work.

 

[museofdoom]

The models don't matter they are simply decoration for the product the designer is presenting. In the case of the high fashion industry that could range anywhere from a unique pattern or combination of clothes to an overly foppish impractical concept piece. (Most things in high fashion are not meant to be worn in the same way that a lot of art is meant to be abstract.)

At the end of the day fashion models are the most over glorified picture frames available.

Um. Those "picture frames" have feelings, and the capacity to generate thoughts.

I'm really loving how choosing to pursue modeling as a career = not being a human.

Models generally love what they do. The fashion industry is cut throat and can rip people to shreds. I actually give models a ton of credit for putting up with being tossed about, having their flaws pointed out to them daily, people thinking they're just walking clothes hangers, etc. I think models are really strong individuals.

No offense meant but it dose still hold true, they are in their profession, decoration used by an artist to highlight their work. No different from the track lighting around the Mona Lisa. Honestly I don't really understand the concept of finding the people behind the art compelling. I don't care about them as individuals in the same way that I don't care about any famous person's private life, it is irrelevant to what they do occupationally. Fashion again, is about the work of designers models are just a pretty way of displaying that work.

Even if you don't find the model interesting as a person, you shouldn't be dehumanizing them by talking about them like they're objects. It's just really not a nice thing to do. Yes, models display a designer's work, but they are not picture frames, or display pieces, they are humans and should be treated as such.

 

[King of Asgaard]

I think all supermodels are pond scum and should die in a fire.

I believe Edna Mode from The Incredibles put it best:

"'Supermodels,' hah! Nothing 'super' about them! Spoiled, stupid little stick figures with poofy lips that only think about themselves."

When I see the emaciated figures of most supermodels nowadays, my first thought isn't "she's hot." Instead it's "get that girl a cheeseburger, pronto!"

Also this.
Captcha: fancy pants. No comment.

 

[Sonicron]

A recent study has shown that roughly half of all people perceive (super)models not as living human beings, but rather things - highly articulated mannequins, if you will. It's not a sex or sexist thing, either; the 50-50 split was evident for both genders among study participants.

As for my personal opinion, it can be expressed in a few simple words:
Ahem... *addresses (stereotypical) models everywhere*
EAT A DAMN SANDWICH! YOU LOOK LIKE DEATH ON TWO LEGS!

 

[Kotch]

This is the last subject I would have expected to see on this site, but hey I've got a few things to say about it.

I have no interest in the fashion industry so I don't know about it's history, but from what I see of models now I can find a lot to dislike. They are far too tall and far too skinny. Just not attractive, or even realistic. They just look like giant walking skeleton freaks. And they get far too much respect for what they do. All they do is pose and walk a few feet occasionally. Their existence is for nothing other than to be something to place another person's work on. They should not be respected or idolised for that.

Very true and eloquently put

 

[museofdoom]

This is the last subject I would have expected to see on this site, but hey I've got a few things to say about it.

I have no interest in the fashion industry so I don't know about it's history, but from what I see of models now I can find a lot to dislike. They are far too tall and far too skinny. Just not attractive, or even realistic. They just look like giant walking skeleton freaks. And they get far too much respect for what they do. All they do is pose and walk a few feet occasionally. Their existence is for nothing other than to be something to place another person's work on. They should not be respected or idolised for that.

Very true and eloquently put

Um um um. Just because you don't find them attractive personally doesn't give you the right to dismiss them as ugly. They are not giant walking skeleton freaks, and that is a horrible thing to say about ANYONE. There are tall thin people that aren't models you know. I bet if you met a tall thin person who wasn't a model you'd be okay with them, but if they're a model everyone is like OMG EW NO. Why do people in this thread seem to think that a model isn't a human with feelings or thoughts?? Or that being a model automatically makes them an awful person who lacks intelligence or a personality?

"Their existence is for nothing than to be something to place an other person's work on". Oh wow. Excuse you? Cause you know, obviously models don't have lives outside modeling. They don't have friends, or family. They don't have hobbies, they don't do anything with their lives at all. They're actually generated in labs.

All sarcasm aside, ARE YOU JOKING?

 

[thiosk]

I see lots of girls that I find prettier than super models.

Because being a supermodel isn't even about how pretty you are; its an ambiance that everyone around you magically buys into.

I want to harness that power and focus it into death rays.

 

[Teshi]

i never said nerds was ugly as hell i said nice guys were big difference. Also when it comes to nice guys and models is there are actually a groups of people who find models appealing on the other hand most women dont find nice guys appealing at least self proclaimed "nice guys" and my vagina sure doesnt find nice guys appealing lol a nice guys is like a limp dick he is utterly useless and i dont want it


i rather have this

You would rather have an armpit?

 

[Strazdas]

They're glorified mannequins, I don't really consider them anything more.

basically this. They are useless in my opinion.