Whats your stance on drug use?

[Navvan]

I think its a poor choice for the average person, but one that is very tempting. However I don't classify all drugs in the same category.

Certain drugs should certainly never be taken as recreation (meth, opiates, cocaine, etc) as they are both addictive, damaging, and have better alternatives to achieve the presumed desired effect of enjoyment. They often lead to or are taken as a result of drug abuse and lead the individual wasting away their life and often endangering others while doing so. While it is possible to do these drugs and lead a perfectly normal life afterwards the only way to tell is through experience and statistically it is simply not a risk that should be taken.

Strong psychedelics and drugs that cause any sort of hallucination should only be used under the care of a medical professional and after at least some screening. They can let a person see the world in a different light/way and can be beneficial for people in the right frame of mind. However to those not in the right frame of mind it can be very damaging as well.

Social drugs (Alcohol/Marijuana) that can be used with little danger to self or others should be used with caution but otherwise unrestricted. The consequences of misuse (driving under the influence for example) should be far greater than what they currently are and person's right to buy/possess the substance should be able to be revoked if abused.

Personally the only one of these categories that I am even remotely interested in is the psychedelics and hallucination inducing drugs. I would of course only even consider taking them under the care of a medical professional and after a psych evaluation.

I feel sorry for those who have fallen into the abuse/addictive tendency of any of these drugs. I'm also a bit wary of anybody using certain types of drugs (for example meth) as they tend to be a bit... dangerous at times. I really don't have a problem with drug use in and of itself if it is done responsibly.

Personally I've never done any illegal drugs despite being surrounded to them for a large chunk of my life. I never even drank alcohol until I turned 21 (legal age) and discovered I simply didn't like doing so very much. It to this day alcohol is the only drug that I have done for recreational purposes and likely will be until the day I die. Unless of course psychedelics are legalized and I'm approved by medical/psychological professionals.

 

[Someone Depressing]

Weed is less damaging than alcohol, and 40% of road-accidents is causes by drunkeness, or alcohol. No-one's died of pot. No. One.

Other drugs, like Meth, Heroine, or Jellies, I can see why people take such a strong stance against. They're dangerous. But pot's not dangerous. You can get high and/or make an ass of yourself, but otherwise, it's fine. As long as you use it in a secluded area and don't hurt/kill anyone during your stimulation, go ahead. But, please; we've had enough random canibalistic attacks. Don't do it in the streets.

 

[Eamar]

Alcohol? Tobacco? Caffeine? All drugs, all legal. What's your take on those?

Alcohol users are killing themselves, Tobacco users are killing themselves, caffeine users are hyperactive (I'm not entirely sure if caffeine can actually kill a person unless it's just pure caffeine). Typically both alcoholics and smokers are pathetic in general, so I avoid interaction with them. Drinking on occasion is a little different, to where they don't rely on the drink to get them through the day, just like with a lot of smokers (and no, I have never seen evidence of "occasional smoking")

Alcoholics are very much the exception rather than the rule, given how ubiquitous alcohol consumption is in the Western world. Drinking too much caffeine (many, many espresso shots in quick succession) can cause a heart attack, but admittedly that's very rare. But to say "caffeine users are hyperactive" is ridiculous given the sheer number of people who have a coffee in the morning. I share your distaste for smoking, for what it's worth.

My point is, how do you justify saying "drinking on occasion is a little different" while simultaneously saying that anyone who uses other substances is "pathetic"? Also, do you genuinely extend those feelings to anyone who uses alcohol and/or caffeine? Because I'm pretty sure that applies to the majority of people you encounter on a day to day basis.

I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious as to where you draw the line.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Why is it (I guess I'm referring to just weed here) and idiotic and pathetic lifestyle? I feel you just have an entirely hypocritical view of people based off of what the government has deemed legal and illegal.

Hypocritical...do you, perchance, mean hypothetical? People are slaves to their drug. Weed use, when used for medicinal purposes, can be good. However, just smoking it whenever you feel like it because "it feels good, man" is you simply being a slave to your drug. You crave the high, it's not in your control. You're addicted, and pathetic.

No, I meant hypocritical.

By that logic, you're addicted to gaming. So you're also a Brony? You must be addicted to that show than, and it's pathetic.

In this day and age, that's the stupidest reasoning to have. Just because something is enjoying to use does not mean it's addicting. That "Fuck, I really enjoy this, it must be addicting" simply is idiotic.

 

[kortin]

Alcoholics are very much the exception rather than the rule, given how ubiquitous alcohol consumption is in the Western world. Drinking too much caffeine (many, many espresso shots in quick succession) can cause a heart attack, but admittedly that's very rare. But to say "caffeine users are hyperactive" is ridiculous given the sheer number of people who have a coffee in the morning. I share your distaste for smoking, for what it's worth.

My point is, how do you justify saying "drinking on occasion is a little different" while simultaneously saying that anyone who uses other substances is "pathetic"? Also, do you genuinely extend those feelings to anyone who uses alcohol and/or caffeine? Because I'm pretty sure that applies to the majority of people you encounter on a day to day basis.

I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just curious as to where you draw the line.

It was a generalizing statement, just like I used with illegal drug users and alcoholics/smokers.

Drinking on occasion shows you still have control over what you're doing. You know that alcohol is bad for you, so you don't become a slave to it. Once you start getting those feelings of addiction (be it psychological or physical), is when I draw the line. To allow yourself to become addicted to such substances shows weakness and lack of self-control, two things that I cannot stand in a person.

I don't consider caffeine to be as hard a drug, so it's a little different. Instead of not associating myself with people who "need that cup of joe in the mornin'", I just scoff at their inability to prevent addiction and go on with my day.

 

[kortin]

No, I meant hypocritical.

By that logic, you're addicted to gaming. So you're also a Brony? You must be addicted to that show than, and it's pathetic.

In this day and age, that's the stupidest reasoning to have. Just because something is enjoying to use does not mean it's addicting. That "Fuck, I really enjoy this, it must be addicting" simply is idiotic.

What.

I'm not addicted to gaming, and I'm not a brony. I enjoy watching MLP, but I am not a brony. "Oh man, I need to play some video games today" or "oh god, I gotta watch an episode of mlp", those are addictive thoughts, and I guarantee you that thoughts such as those are quite common to hear from a weed/any drug addict.

Excuse me, but I will not continue this conversation any longer if you continue making such assumptions about me.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

What.

I'm not addicted to gaming, and I'm not a brony. I enjoy watching MLP, but I am not a brony.

Excuse me, but I will not continue this conversation any longer if you continue making such assumptions about me.

Yet, saying I'm addicted to weed for the exact same reasons that you play video games is not a ridiculous assumption? Hence the word "hypocritical".

You're portraying a narrow minded way of thinking, and that is pathetic.

 

[The Funslinger]

Whilst I think that people should be able to do as they like in their own homes & where such things are permitted I can't ignore the fact that every single drug user that I've encountered has been a lying, thieving shitbag.

To be fair, how do you know that's because the drugs aren't part of a regulated system where they can be jerked around by the dealers, etc? In terms of shiftiness and law breaking, they're already in it...

My thing is if you're a drug user, and you're going to a party and you get asked not to bring/do anything along those lines, don't go and do it anyway. It does ruin the party for everyone involved when you're being a paranoid douche.

 

[Navvan]

Weed is less damaging than alcohol, and 40% of road-accidents is causes by drunkeness, or alcohol. No-one's died of pot. No. One.

Other drugs, like Meth, Heroine, or Jellies, I can see why people take such a strong stance against. They're dangerous. But pot's not dangerous. You can get high and/or make an ass of yourself, but otherwise, it's fine.

Plenty of people have died as a result of pot. No one has died of an overdose, but plenty of people have died indirectly as a result of pot. Laced pot for example, in the service of drug cartels to supply others with pot, and yes there have been accidents linked to being under the influence of pot.

The first two points are additional reasons to legalize marijuana, the last is something that is far less likely than with alcohol, but still possible. What I'm trying to say is that while I agree with the legalization of marijuana it isn't a purely innocent drug like many smokers make it out to be and to not put yourself in unnecessary risk (driving) because you think it is "safe" or that because you are aware you are under the influence it balances out by "being extra careful".

 

[kortin]

Says the person who says anyone who uses drugs is an addict.

Using a drug does not mean you are an addict.

It seems incredibly stupid otherwise, and I tend to prefer to think that the people are not acting of their own free will and are just slaves to the drug. It would really crush my spirit to think that people actually do drugs because they enjoy it.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

No, you're addicted to weed because you're pathetic and you need it. That is why you're addicted to weed.

Anyways, I am done talking to someone such as you.

Sorry, am I starting to make too much sense?

I need it? Wanna ask me when the last time I actually lit up was? (two months ago)

For fuck's sake, I stopped smoking for a good 9 month for literally no reason at all. But no, you in all your infinite wisdom are absolutely right. I've had a debilitating marijuana addiction and I relapsed. I'm so fucking pathetic.

Either you don't know what the definition of an "addiction" is, or you've somehow managed to turn a blind eye to the multiple studies that have come out over the past few years clearly stating that marijuana is not addictive.

 

[Ytomyth]

I keep myself to organic drugs; marijuana, salvia, mushrooms, peyote, ayahuasca etc.
Coke, heroine and XTC (synthetic/chemical bs) are a no-go for me, if anyone wants to do those...well, it's their life but imo that's just downright silly. xD

The biggest problem with a lot of drug users is that it's usually seen as something small you can do on a party to increase your vibe, or whatever. The impact some of those drugs have on your mental perception, your mood and your current train of thought is vastly underestimated.

If (most) people that do shrooms would take them a bit more seriously. Aka, research on beforehand, be sure you're in a good environment, have some decent music on hand (something that can help you relax for instance), bad trips would be a lot less common.

Not telling everyone to go do shrooms or anything, but if you're planning on doing drugs: make sure you know what it is you're taking and how to deal with it.

Edit: some grammar.

 

[kortin]

People have sex because it feels good due to chemicals that are released into their body during it. Should sex only be used for procreation? Are people who have sex for pleasure just slaves to the pleasure?

People can get a high from running. Should they stop running if it becomes enjoyable? Does it make them worse?

You just quoted two HEALTHY things to do. They are both VERY good for your body, unlike most illegal drugs.

 

[immortalfrieza]

I've never used any sort of recreational drug, including tabacco or alcohol in my life, so let's just get that out of the way. I think that especially in this day and age where it's common knowledge that drugs of any kind will most likely screw you up and eventually kill you, anyone that decides to take them are f***ing idiots and the world is better off if the drugs kill them or get them arrested.

 

[kortin]

Yes you still look down on people who enjoy drinks with caffeine despite it having many positive benefits for the body.

http://www.energyfiend.com/top-10-caffeine-health-benefits
http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-scientific-ways-coffee-gives-you-super-powers/

No doubt there is some hyperbole in the cracked link but the fact remains, you feel people are still "slaves" when drinking coffee despite it being beneficial to your body.

Hmm, well, I don't think I've ever done any formal research in the caffeine department (I just always found it to be such a ridiculously soft drug, that I don't need to really pay any attention to it). I'll have to look into that more.