Whats your stance on drug use?

[Ytomyth]

People have sex because it feels good due to chemicals that are released into their body during it. Should sex only be used for procreation? Are people who have sex for pleasure just slaves to the pleasure?

People can get a high from running. Should they stop running if it becomes enjoyable? Does it make them worse?

You just quoted two HEALTHY things to do. They are both VERY good for your body, unlike most illegal drugs.

Erm....no, running is not as healthy as we'd all like to believe. It's damaging for your legs (the impact of your feet on the ground sends a shudder through your whole body, damaging your legs mostly). Not to say everyone should stop doing sports because of the damage to your body, but don't take general assumptions as truth.
Sports has mostly been researched by either people that can earn money from it being a positive thing or people that would not use proper limits.

Just to make this clear: I am -not- saying it's purely unhealthy and bad for you to do sports but it's been kind of...well, glorified.

 

[immortalfrieza]

I've never used any sort of recreational drug, including tabacco or alcohol in my life, so let's just get that out of the way. I think that especially in this day and age where it's common knowledge that drugs of any kind will most likely screw you up and eventually kill you, anyone that decides to take them are f***ing idiots and the world is better off if the drugs kill them or get them arrested.

That's not true. Many drugs are used for medicinal purposes and not for recreation.

Also alcohol is dangerous but if you take low amounts then your liver can get rid of the toxins at no risk to your body.

I was talking about solely about RECREATIONAL drugs, not medical ones prescribed from your doctor for a real problem.

 

[Muspelheim]

No, you're addicted to weed because you're pathetic and you need it. That is why you're addicted to weed.

Anyways, I am done talking to someone such as you.

Why I do agree with you to a point, doing illegal drugs isn't generally very smart, I do draw the line before bringing down my judgment-hammer and elevating myself to a position where I can call them all pathetic.

Furthermore, "Pathetic and you need it" isn't very descriptive, now is it? Exactly why is someone pathetic for using weed (beyond "They just are") and would it be so even if he didn't need it?

 

[RedLister]

I would be conducting massive hypocracy if i told anyone not to use drugs etc. Since i smoke, am an ex-drinker and seem to have more caffiene in my body then i should do.

Your a grown up man or women, do what you want to your body.

I read that http://www.cracked.com/blog/7-scientific-ways-coffee-gives-you-super-powers/ for shit and giggles.

"Coffee enables you to not only do stupid things faster, but also run away from the results faster as well"

HELL YES!!

 

[DirtyJunkieScum]

I tend to prefer to think that the people are not acting of their own free will and are just slaves to the drug. It would really crush my spirit to think that people actually do drugs because they enjoy it.

Well, prepare to have your spirit crushed, because that's pretty much why most people take drugs, why else would they? Some will have other issues they are trying to paper over but just as some people drink alcohol because they enjoy it some people take drugs for the same reasons. They are enjoyable experience and used in moderation they are unlikely to harm you. Some people will get badly addicted to the point you describe but they are a very small minority. I can't quite grasp why you think people who drink recreationally with moderation are not addicts whereas people who use other drugs recreationally with moderation are not.

Really, it sounds like you are just saying "I want to believe this because I don't like the alternative", which is a pretty poor reason, delusional really.

 

[kortin]

I tend to prefer to think that the people are not acting of their own free will and are just slaves to the drug. It would really crush my spirit to think that people actually do drugs because they enjoy it.

Well, prepare to have your spirit crushed, because that's pretty much why most people take drugs, why else would they? Some will have other issues they are trying to paper over but just as some people drink alcohol because they enjoy it some people take drugs for the same reasons. They are enjoyable experience and used in moderation they are unlikely to harm you. Some people will get badly addicted to the point you describe but they are a very small minority. I can't quite grasp why you think people who drink recreationally with moderation are not addicts whereas people who use other drugs recreationally with moderation are not.

Really, it sounds like you are just saying "I want to believe this because I don't like the alternative", which is a pretty poor reason, delusional really.

So many people proven to be idiots. It's a sad day then.

 

[DirtyJunkieScum]

So many people proven to be idiots. It's a sad day then.

You know that still doesn't quite explain why you consider enjoying moderate alcohol use to be fine but enjoying moderate drug use to be idiotic. Other than the possibility of arrest, which is a social factor, not a characteristic of the drug in question, I don't quite see the reason for the disparity in your viewpoint.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

As Marie Antoinette said "let them take acid!"

I have no issue with people taking drugs, I'm not one to stand in the way of other people's life choices. There's also no moral issue with them because not only are they not evil themselves they don't force or even encourage evil behavior in people.

The human mind is one of the few things we actually have going for us as a species, deliberately tossing it in the gutter for the sake of some extra endorphin is incredibly stupid.

And some of the greatest minds the world has seen have been drug users. Freud used cocaine all the time but he still managed to be an awesome psychologist, partly because of his love of cocaine. Steve Jobbs said that taking acid was a profound experience, one of the most important things in his life. Not all drug use is bad.

 

[Vicarious Reality]

I dislike the way people use Marijuana or alcohol or other drugs as a substitute for appreciating real beauty. That's my main objection to them as drugs.

Real beauty? And you get to decide what is ''real'' beauty, no

Removing drugs removes a way to live a different life

Do you want to be able to change your life?

 

[faranar]

People have sex because it feels good due to chemicals that are released into their body during it. Should sex only be used for procreation? Are people who have sex for pleasure just slaves to the pleasure?

People can get a high from running. Should they stop running if it becomes enjoyable? Does it make them worse?

You just quoted two HEALTHY things to do. They are both VERY good for your body, unlike most illegal drugs.

Actually lots of people die because of exercise such as running and sex. There are however no reported deaths caused by smoking weed. And you can argue that smoking weed is healthy as it relieves pain, stress, and there are studies that show smoking weed can prevent cancer. What's more it isn't physically addictive, meaning people smoke weed not because they need to, but because they want to, because they like it.

Personally I believe that whatever people do to their bodies is their own problem. Having illegal drugs while there are legal addictive and/or dangerous substances like alcohol or tobbaco strikes me as hypocritical.

Legalizing all controlled substances would mean clean and high quality drugs that would come from a verified source and with information on safe use and the danger of abusing the substance. It would also mean less crime, less gray economy, and loads of cash in the form of taxes for the country that implements such a policy. Another thing is that it would be easier for people who need help to get it.
Also less kids would be forced into using drugs by peer pressure as it would no longer be as "cool".

 

[Thespian]

I dislike the way people use Marijuana or alcohol or other drugs as a substitute for appreciating real beauty. That's my main objection to them as drugs.

Real beauty? And you get to decide what is ''real'' beauty, no

Removing drugs removes a way to live a different life

Do you want to be able to change your life?

I do get to decide what real beauty is yes, exactly. Of course, that's only in my opinion. I accommodate other people's opinions. I don't think totally banning something solves a problem. I personally think that a life that features heavy drug use is distasteful, but only from my perspective. I don't really think less of people who do a lot of marijuana for example. It's like religion. A religious lifestyle is unseemly to me, but I don't think less of religious people for what they believe in.

And you asked if I want to be able to change my life, so are you implying that drugs are the only way to do that? Undeniably they are one way to do that, but by staying in smoking weed I would hypothetically deny myself like... going to an interpretative dance show or something. So yeah. I just don't see the appeal to that lifestyle.

 

[lacktheknack]

I live in a country with centralized public health care, so I'm pretty anti-drug. And anti-alcohol, and VERY anti-smoking.

Do drinkers/smokers/drug users have nothing better to do?

 

[TehCookie]

If you lock yourself in your basement and do them, go ahead. If you do them on the street and hurt someone/something you should be punished.

I'd never do them because I care for my body and mind.

But I like to smoke my pot out in the wilderness

Then (pretending the drug itself is legal) don't do anything stupid like disturbing the peace or public intoxication.

 

[Heronblade]

The human mind is one of the few things we actually have going for us as a species, deliberately tossing it in the gutter for the sake of some extra endorphin is incredibly stupid.

And some of the greatest minds the world has seen have been drug users. Freud used cocaine all the time but he still managed to be an awesome psychologist, partly because of his love of cocaine. Steve Jobbs said that taking acid was a profound experience, one of the most important things in his life. Not all drug use is bad.

Poor examples in my mind.

Freud managed to improve the way we treat and research the field of psychology, but nearly all of his actual theories have been proven dead wrong one way or another.

And Jobs was a pseudo-delusional megalomaniac in addition to the positive things he managed to achieve. Considering the effects of acid, I'm inclined to think if it had any lasting effect on his career it had more to do with the former aspect.

With both men, I have reason to believe they would have been better off without drugs, try again.

 

[immortalfrieza]

I've never used any sort of recreational drug, including tabacco or alcohol in my life, so let's just get that out of the way. I think that especially in this day and age where it's common knowledge that drugs of any kind will most likely screw you up and eventually kill you, anyone that decides to take them are f***ing idiots and the world is better off if the drugs kill them or get them arrested.

That's not true. Many drugs are used for medicinal purposes and not for recreation.

Also alcohol is dangerous but if you take low amounts then your liver can get rid of the toxins at no risk to your body.

I was talking about solely about RECREATIONAL drugs, not medical ones prescribed from your doctor for a real problem.

Shit, should have read that better. Sorry about that, I was focusing on the " it's common knowledge that drugs of any kind will most likely screw you up and eventually kill you" bit of your post.

Well, technically "it's common knowledge that drugs of any kind will most likely screw you up and eventually kill you" applies to medical drugs as well, if they aren't used the way they're supposed to, but that goes without saying.

 

[fenrizz]

Says the person who says anyone who uses drugs is an addict.

Using a drug does not mean you are an addict.

It seems incredibly stupid otherwise, and I tend to prefer to think that the people are not acting of their own free will and are just slaves to the drug. It would really crush my spirit to think that people actually do drugs because they enjoy it.

Why else would they do drugs?
The effects they give are feel pretty damn good you know.

Also, most cannabis users do not smoke every day, as you seem to believe.
The majority of drug users take them for recreation once in a while, and that is a long, long way from your perception of every single one as a full blown heroin addict.

If you lock yourself in your basement and do them, go ahead. If you do them on the street and hurt someone/something you should be punished.

I'd never do them because I care for my body and mind.

But I like to smoke my pot out in the wilderness

http://inhabitat.com/meth-addict-burns-worlds-5th-oldest-tree-to-the-ground/
I'd much rather you don't, man.

Hehe, I'd never be that stupid.
I'm actually pretty paranoid on those kinds of things, you wouldn't believe what lengths I takkle to not start a fire or something stupid like that.

If you lock yourself in your basement and do them, go ahead. If you do them on the street and hurt someone/something you should be punished.

I'd never do them because I care for my body and mind.

But I like to smoke my pot out in the wilderness

Then (pretending the drug itself is legal) don't do anything stupid like disturbing the peace or public intoxication.

I don't.
I like to be by myself, or in the company of fellow minded individuals when I smoke.

Like I said earlier, the social stigma is strong here and I try my best to keep it to myself.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

I'm fine with marijuana and mdma usage. I don't mind hallucinogenics that much, but I think people have to be very careful if they're going to take them. I would do all I could to stop my friends taking cocaine or heroin, and other drugs that are very addictive and harmful.

 

[fenrizz]

I've never used any sort of recreational drug, including tabacco or alcohol in my life, so let's just get that out of the way. I think that especially in this day and age where it's common knowledge that drugs of any kind will most likely screw you up and eventually kill you, anyone that decides to take them are f***ing idiots and the world is better off if the drugs kill them or get them arrested.

That is not even true.
Most recreational users will not become addicts, and thus will not become screwed up and eventually die.