Whats your stance on drug use?

[snagli]

Anything that isn't addicting, or has a pretty low chance of getting addicted to, are fine by me. Weed, XTC, LSD, shrooms, you go right ahead and take that (not too much, obviously). Heroin, Cocaine, Meth, Tobacco, Crack, hell no. Alcohol I'm not sure about. I drink plenty myself, but I've seen how destructive and potentially addictive it can be.

 

[II2]

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"

Well, not quite... but what how people wish to live their lives should be up to them and up for negotiation with those it affects directly. Also, what kinda drugs are we talking?

--- I've been an experience seeker at points my life and have drawn my conclusions from first hand experience and observations ---

I might not like alcohol or tabacco, but I don't think it's my place to legally punish those who do, or to criminalize the behavior.

Having been to a few grass bars or 'hash cafes' over the span of my life, I have a hard time envisioning fights breaking out there. Even if you're not smoking or vaporizing, the staff and clientele all grin and move in a languid, fluid slow motion. Doesn't speak harm to me.

I think entheogens or hallucinogens get a bad rap, too. They're been consistently positive, if bewildering, spiritually affirmative experiences for me. I'm not normally given to much spirtual pondering, but it's helped me see why many people ARE.

As for other stuff, coke, smack, designer chemicals, etc, they can be *very* fun, but very shallow, transient experiences... they tend to attract a bad crowd and bad behavior. Regardless, harm reduction seems preferable to legalization. People do what they do and unfortunately I've seen some friends turn into junkies... That said, my observations seem to note that most people who go the farthest in abusing powerful stimulants and depressants are those with previously existing and co morbid mental disorders.

Finally, there are the no-benefits killer drugs that really *should* be banned and enforced, since they are either too personally toxic to tolerate or prone to being used to hurt people. Rust/Oxi, Krokodil, Scropolamine, Bath Salts/MDVP, fentanyl (anywhere but under doc supervision) and arguably more common fare like crystal methamphetamine or PCP. Just bad news with almost nothing to offer but delirium and pain.

My 0.02

edit: HAH - "Gone Gonzo" tag

 

[Stripes]

I didnt say this, not sure how you quoted me.

 

[kortin]

If youre an adult and you feel like using drugs.. go ahead, as long as youre not forcing them on me, or affecting me in any way with it go right ahead, make your own mistakes

With Bath Salts, they are very much affecting you. They are chewing your face off (i.e. going on a psychotic drug-induced rampage).

I see anyone who uses illegal drugs to be pathetic and will not associate with them.

 

[bullet_sandw1ch]

i think marajuana should be legalized, as its basically a special cigarrette that makes you feel awesome [apparently, ive never done any drugs, apart from a coors light or 3 every weekend]. the way i look at it, is if marajuana is so bad, why can we be perscribed it? sure its cleaner than street stuff but then the gov. should sell it legally so we can all get clean, good marajuana. stuff like heroin, and cocaine should stay illegal. ive seen it, that shit messes you up, you become a zombie, looking for their next fix.

 

[SacremPyrobolum]

I am apprehensive about legalizing drugs that make you eat peoples faces off.

Same with drugs that can make you a full on bullet sponge or give you an edge in anything.

Other drugs I am fine with.

However, I think it is important to understand why drugs are illegal. One, in countries that pay for healthcare, they do not want people taking up resources that could be used for other cases. Two is that people who take hard drugs are not likely to have a job to support their use, resulting in crime to pay for said narcotics.

But, personally, I am fine with drugs that do not make you a risk to those around you.

 

[Muspelheim]

Correct, you are trying to escape reality.

And people "above" drugs aren't?

But then again, isn't enjoying a delicious cake also an attempt to escape reality? Or reading a book or watching a film?

We're all escapees in the grand scheme of things, if you ask me.

 

[Squidbulb]

I think it's silly; you slowly kill yourself in return for a quick boost, not to mention having to buy all of it. I get very angry whenever I see someone smoking. Firstly, I don't want to breathe in your smoke, and secondly you must be pretty stupid to even consider trying a cigarette now that we all know how bad it is. But hey, as long as you don't get in my way, enjoy paying money to kill yourself you lunatic.

 

[DazZ.]

I see anyone who uses illegal drugs to be pathetic and will not associate with them.

But as soon as they become legal everything is fine!

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Weed, I'm absolutely fine with. Love the stuff. Planning on smoking some when I get back home from this month long trip. Alcohol, whatever. Acid and shrooms? A little bit more on the risky side, but go for it.

That's where I draw the line. Coke isn't that bad in the scheme of things, but the harder drugs like Heroin and Meth, I think should be kept illegal. There's no realistic way it can be allowed to become decriminalized. I think most people who are on the "their bodies, their lives" train of thought don't really get how bad it can get. There are very few people who can keep it under control.

Than again, I have a father who was in the DEA, had his partner kidnapped by the Cartel, and saw a bunch of rather horrible shit from these low lives, so my opinion may be skewed.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Most of the stoner culture irritates the hell out of me. (Most meaning all). This is unfair, but I pretty quickly assume anyone who uses drugs is socially maladjusted and immature. Obviously alcohol is the exception because it is so ubiquitous in our culture. Tobacco may only be smoked from a pipe, or it inspires a completely different set of prejudices from me. Today my 17 year old sister told one of those stupid pot stories (you know, the kind that always start with "I got sooo high last night that...") and it was all I could do not to put my fucking face through a wall, but I'm getting off topic.

Like the guy said above me, your sister is just a typical stupid 17 year old.

It's another case of the Vocal minority absolutely not representing the majority. The underlying culture that really surrounds it is really full of some of the most calm and chill dudes you have ever seen.

I see anyone who uses illegal drugs to be pathetic and will not associate with them.

Because all laws are always looking out for our best interests, right?

 

[Phasmal]

"Do what you want, but none for me" - thats pretty much my stance.

Well, I occasionally drink- but I very rarely get drunk. I've never smoked a cigarette and never done any drugs apart from the ones my doctor gives me.
I won't do any drugs because of the family history of mental instability. Just feels too much like tempting fate.
My boyfriend only drinks too, and not very often, I'm lucky in that way. I don't think I would date someone who smoked or did drugs.

Oh, and also, I don't believe you should become intoxicated through drink/drugs when you are responsible for someone else (like a child). I've had massive disagreements about that with certain people I know.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

It's true, they're really out there. There's this pub that my friends and I go to now and then and the only way you'd know that people there are smoking weed is because you can smell it, not because people are shoving the idea in your face. They're actually quite casual about it.

I got to chatting with a random dude one time and before he left he just said "You're alright man" and stuck a few joints in my hand, I don't smoke the stuff as much as I used to so I gave them to my friends. But yeah, you'll find that people generally over the age of 20 or so really treat it just the same as smoking a cigarette.

Yeah, my friends are the exact same way. Me and two of my close friends literally didn't tell each other we smoked weed for a while because we were all kinda cautious of the social stigmas that sorta called you out to be a douche. When we finally realized that we all smoked, it became awesome.

 

[kortin]

But as soon as they become legal everything is fine!

Not necessarily. I was using "illegal drugs" because medicine is legal drugs used properly. I highly doubt should any illegal drug become legalized, that anyone would use the drug properly.

I see anyone who uses illegal drugs to be pathetic and will not associate with them.

Because all laws are always looking out for our best interests, right?

Not at all. I just see it as a pathetic and idiotic lifestyle, and anyone who chooses such a lifestyle deserves no interaction from me. I'm perfectly fine missing out on friends if it means I don't have to be near people with such criminal activities (because, REGARDLESS of whether you think the drug should or shouldn't be illegal, it's still illegal at this moment in time, and I will not be thrown in jail because of YOUR (note: not you specifically, but a general your) idiocy.)

 

[Eamar]

But as soon as they become legal everything is fine!

Not necessarily. I was using "illegal drugs" because medicine is legal drugs used properly. I highly doubt should any illegal drug become legalized, that anyone would use the drug properly.

Alcohol? Tobacco? Caffeine? All drugs, all legal. What's your take on those?

 

[JoesshittyOs]

Not at all. I just see it as a pathetic and idiotic lifestyle, and anyone who chooses such a lifestyle deserves no interaction from me. I'm perfectly fine missing out on friends if it means I don't have to be near people with such criminal activities (because, REGARDLESS of whether you think the drug should or shouldn't be illegal, it's still illegal at this moment in time, and I will not be thrown in jail because of YOUR (note: not you specifically, but a general your) idiocy.)

Why is it (I guess I'm referring to just weed here) and idiotic and pathetic lifestyle? I feel you just have an entirely hypocritical view of people based off of what the government has deemed legal and illegal.

 

[kortin]

Alcohol? Tobacco? Caffeine? All drugs, all legal. What's your take on those?

Alcoholics are killing themselves, Smokers are killing themselves, caffeine users are hyperactive (I'm not entirely sure if caffeine can actually kill a person unless it's just pure caffeine). Typically both alcoholics and smokers are pathetic in general, so I avoid interaction with them. Drinking on occasion is a little different, to where they don't rely on the drink to get them through the day, unlike with a lot of smokers (and no, I have never seen evidence of "occasional smoking")

 

[ShindoL Shill]

In my opinion, people can do drugs if they want.
It's their body. They can do whatever they want to with it.
I don't drink, but I don't give a fuck if you do. Why should I care if some poor bastard is shooting up or snorting cocaine?
The only time I'll actively try and stop someone is if I know them personally and it's fucking them over.

 

[kortin]

Why is it (I guess I'm referring to just weed here) and idiotic and pathetic lifestyle? I feel you just have an entirely hypocritical view of people based off of what the government has deemed legal and illegal.

Hypocritical...do you, perchance, mean hypothetical? People are slaves to their drug. Weed use, when used for medicinal purposes, can be good. However, just smoking it whenever you feel like it because "it feels good, man" is you simply being a slave to your drug. You crave the high, it's not in your control. You're addicted, and pathetic.