When did Final Fantasy die for you?

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Terramax

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kizzneth said:
So when did you stop liking the Final Fantasy series if you ever liked it at all?

for me it started sliding downhill at 9 and went dead at 10. I recently got FF crisis core hoping that would spark some mild interest in the FF series but alas it failed horribly >.<
Fully agreed. Although FF9 sorta grew on me, I played FF10 after being a Dreamcast Phantasy Star Online addict for a number of years. It was like taking a step back in time.

Although I adored FFXI online and FFXII, I don't consider these as part of the main series as one is an MMORPG, and the other is created by the freakin' awesome team that did Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy Tactics, not the usualy team who work on the FF franchise. FFXII was too good to be considered a Final Fantasy.
 

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I died a little inside when they tried to make it a TPS T.T

But I still Love the game =p
 

cellorob

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Disc 3 of FF8. I mean, seriously, you all have amnesia which made you forget that you were all raised together in the same orphanage. Right. The evil witch sorceress queen who you were fighting is really...controlled by an evil sorceress from the FUUUTUUUURE! Also, the soldier whose memories you've been flashing back to is president of Future Land. Okay, uh huh. So nothing on the first two discs really mattered. Awesome.

Not that I've ever finished a Final Fantasy game, anyhow. All the leveling up I needed to do in order to defeat the final bosses always prevented me. I don't want my games to be too much like work. If I did, I'd play WoW.
 

Sewblon

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FFX 2. That thing reminded me of Sailor Moon, We were all lucky that I took no ones life.
 

Carlston

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Oddly when I figured out every FF had the exact same characters with new games and a slightly shifted job. You have the reluctant goob main boy, the girl he likes who dies, the girl who likes him he ignores, the doofy friend, the spunky teen girl, mechanic man, and the cute thing.

Now, mix in who gets the guns, the sword, unarmed, jump attacks and you see where it starts getting the same.

7 I enjoyed, 8 made me go eh with the orphan bit. 9 I couldn't stand the characters...

Also, any FF game after 7 with a jackass named CID I wish I could kill...

If you want to see the characters atleast come back play kingdom hearts...
 

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Siris said:
When 1 and 2 were rereleased on the psp
Wait...how did that kill it for you. I know Squeenix likes to play the remake card a little too often but may I ask what was bad about them? They seemed no different than the GBA dawn of souls game...except on the PSP it was a total fucking ripoff because they were released separately, booo. Polished visuals and sound was good but FUCK, a UMD could easily have held those two.
 

Minimike3636

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I hated FF ever since the first FF game I've played. Sadly, that was Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles. Needed a Strategy Guide to get through it, and even then, I could not beat the last boss.

FF now seems to be an endless series and I'm not going to play all 10 just to know what's going on.
 

suhlEap

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10 was the last good final fantasy game. it did have the appeal, though the length of it let it down. is it just me, or is lost odyssey more like a final fantasy game than FF12?
 

PersianLlama

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Went downhill at 8. Proved itself awesome with 9, then 10/10-2 were terrible. MMO's aren't my thing so scratch 11. 12 was good, and we'll have to see about 13.
 

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the_tramp said:
I am eagerly awaiting FFXIII and I'm glad that it has incorporated the old fighting style. I can't afford a PS3 so thank god it's on the Xbox360, much to the hate of this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I

Ahh... god this video makes me laugh every time, I apologise if people are sick of it but it makes me laugh.
I have never seen that video before.

Thank you for bringing it to my attention.

I lol'd.

Heh. I did more than lol. "And you must...just...stop it." I thought the kid was gonna cry.
 

Ohten

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FFVII heralded the death of the series. Unengaging villains, unlikeable heroes, blatant Deus Ex Machina plot devices, and horrible followup prequel/sequel retcons that only further distanced me from the main cast other than Tifa and Reeve.

The cast was littered with obvious racial stereotypes--powerful Aryan man, thuggish black man, native American four-legged doglike creature? Sephiroth is only surpassed by Tobias Bruckner and General Greivous in boring, disappointing villains, especially following in the footsteps of a villain who commited real war atrocities beyond a couple mass murders and who attained *godhood* along with destroying the world.

The only redeeming qualities of FFVII were the musical scores and the Turks, neither of which present a good game when inundated with a meh-worthy cast, a repackaged and pissed-on storyline, and minigames that were sketchy at best.
 

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Final Fantasy 11
its was pretty much a few of the Final Fantasy's put together, i forgot her name but one character was pretty much the same as Freya from FF9
 

NeW SpEcTrUM

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To answer your question, the moment I played the first one. Ugh...and not one since has impressed me. If anything, the just keep getting worse.
 

Joshimodo

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With X. I liked X, however it didn't feel "Final Fantasy" to me. Everything since has been junk.
 

BobisOnlyBob

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Treating Final Fantasy as a whole, and giving it a personal state of "aliveness" or "deadness" amuses me. I treat 'em like Bond films: Some are good, some are bad, some are completely off the rails, some people like the new and some people like the old. I know which ones I love and which I hate and which infuriate the hell out of me for having good story with bad gameplay and vice-versa.

FF: Amusing, but I've yet to play the remakes. So very dated, hard to play personally.
III: Played the DS version. Fun, but decidedly oldschool gameplay irks it.
IV: Played original and remastered. Damnably good twist on the four crystals story, still drops the occasional overpowered boss without warning nor savepoint.
V: I never quite got to grips with it? Interesting characters.
VI: Ah, beautiful. A wonderful gem of a game, amazing cast, amazing gameplay, only a few quirks here and there.
VII: My very first RPG. I played all the previous titles after this one; I can't honestly judge it, there's too much rose-tinted interference. Amazing.
VIII: I honestly never completed it directly, due to the sheer difficulty of the infernal gameplay mechanics and my complete loss of interest after Esthar. The first disc or so was fun, and then it completely loses coherency. At least until recently when I stumbled onto a neat theory that explains it all; I think they over-reached, and shot themselves in the foot with a 12 gauge. It could've been brilliant.
IX: I played this before my retro binging, so a lot of the references were lost on me, but still a charming game. Odd ending.
X: Too linear. Dull characters I couldn't get interested in. Annoying villain. Sold it on quickly.
XII: I'm stuck halfway through, it's not well-paced but combat is new and interesting. I'll finish it soon enough. I quite like the character interaction and the way the party feels a little unfocused, since they're all working to slightly different ends.
Tactics Advance: Placing territories confused me and made the game into an awkward grind, plot took waaay too long to unravel.
Tactics A2: Plot what Plot? Damn good combat, characters are interesting enough but barely anything is done with them.

The series isn't dead to me, any more than Bond "died" for Sontum of Qualace. A new game is a new game - it's not like they have Resident Evil's problem of tying together an overly-convoluted story over more than a decade. The old mistakes can be forgotten, as they stand alone. The development team is always hiring new writers, programmers, even directors - although sadly XIII's director is the same one behind X-2 and Revenant Wings, two titles I've deliberately omitted from the above list because I haven't played X-2, and RW hurt me in my strategy place.