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Danish rage

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
 

FamoFunk

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If it's a drawn pornagraphic of children it's still wrong.

Why would you want to draw images of children in that situation for? Pretty fucked up if you ask me.
 

Gigano

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Indeed an unjust law. Repulsive as animated child[footnote]Or rather in this instance animé character depicted as underage; who presumably don't even resemble actual human children any more than ordinary animé characters do.[/footnote] pornography is, it hurts no one, and thus should not be the target for a legal ban (or ethical condemnation for that matter; it's just gross, that's all really).

Outlawing it isn't even mere thoughtcrime; it's outlawing stuff that might sometimes be able to lead to thinking of committing crimes against actual humans, but hasn't been proven to. Nor have it been properly assessed whether it couldn't help divert attention away from actual children, which everyone can certainly agree would be a good thing.

I suppose a bonus could be that if it's edited out, Manga with other artistic merits might be able to be enjoyed by a wider audience, who would otherwise recoil from them.
 

Danish rage

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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Aby_Z said:
Eri said:
Regular pornography is not illegal. The reason CP is illegal is because the child would be harmed/doesn't understand what it is doing etc. That is why CP is bad and illegal and regular porn isn't, on the other hand, drawing harms no one. The pictures that are drawn come from a pencil, not from an actual child being harmed.
You know what a taboo is, right? CP is a taboo in every single way. Even something as innocent as watching an anime involving little girls can be pushing it for some people. No matter how you justify it, it will always be considered immoral and wrong amongst the majority of people. That's a simple fact of life you have to deal with.

So in other words, keep your folders hidden and encrypted.
With the Youth Ordinance Bill being passed and now this, I can see this turning into a witch hunt. If this isn't stopped now, I can see myself getting in trouble with the law for dating Naoto in P4 (who is 16). This could get ugly, real fast. People have a right to be offended. They don't have the right to unfairly prosecute people who don't adhere to their outlook on things.
 

EinTheCorgi

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As a father ill put it this way...I rather have a guy/girl get there jollys off to a drawn picture of my daughter then for them to have no place to vent there urges and which makes them kidnap my daughter and well you know...
 

FamoFunk

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Wait, what? You think it's OK to masturbate over children, real or not, it's still a child?
 

EinTheCorgi

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FamoFunk said:
If it's a drawn pornagraphic of children it's still wrong.

Why would you want to draw images of children in that situation for? Pretty fucked up if you ask me.
Then you should call the police because ive murdered thousands of innocent pixles in video games

NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Ehh I wouldnt go around telling people that...people are very stupid about loli
 

Gigano

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Danish rage said:
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Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
It's not really wrong to depict reality. A movie about sexual abuse of children and the immensely damaging effects it can have on them could be artistically justified in showing the abuse in all its repulsive cruelty, to help get its message across.

What's wrong disturbing and disgusting is depicting children in a sexual context for the purpose of arousal. That something is disturbing and disgusting doesn't warrant it be outlawed though, only harm to actual humans can justify that.

As a side note, it's actually perfectly legal to view and possess animated child pornography in Denmark.
 

FamoFunk

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
EinTheCorgi said:
FamoFunk said:
If it's a drawn pornagraphic of children it's still wrong.

Why would you want to draw images of children in that situation for? Pretty fucked up if you ask me.
Then you should call the police because ive murdered thousands of innocent pixles in video games
Umm, what does that have to do with pornographic images?

*Dails 999 anyway*
 

EinTheCorgi

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Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
Why what makes children so untouchable? Why cant I blow them up with my fat man in fallout3 or cut there little heads off with my sword in fable...give me one good reason why kids should be protected from every thing adults go though...we all live in the same world. and the day that we start treating children like equals instead of pets will be a day where humanity moves forward.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
And your perfectly fine with what amounts to a witch hunt to put us away for owning loli art?
 

FamoFunk

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EinTheCorgi said:
As a father ill put it this way...I rather have a guy/girl get there jollys off to a drawn picture of my daughter then for them to have no place to vent there urges and which makes them kidnap my daughter and well you know...
As a Mother I'd rather no one get their jollys off to my underage child. Drawing/photo/real life.
 

Danish rage

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EinTheCorgi said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
Why what makes children so untouchable? Why cant I blow them up with my fat man in fallout3 or cut there little heads off with my sword in fable...give me one good reason why kids should be protected from every thing adults go though...we all live in the same world. and the day that we start treating children like equals instead of pets will be a day where humanity moves forward.
This actually gave me the chills. :-(