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Danish rage

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RedEyesBlackGamer said:
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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
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Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
And your perfectly fine with what amounts to a witch hunt to put us away for owning loli art?
Sure, in my mind it´s child pornografy, try and keep that in mind please.
 

EinTheCorgi

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the way I simply see it is that we live in reality "A" and anime/video games are reality "B"

Reality "A" has real people. reality "B" dosnt so When Im in reality "B" i want to be able to kill,steal,rape,blow up what ever and who ever i feel like...because if im not allowed to do that in reality "B" then i may just have to do it in reality "A" and no one wants that.
 

Joepow

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Jeez, you'd think the gaming community would be more mature about this issue cough madworld cough GTA cough every fucking game ever made
 

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EinTheCorgi said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
Why what makes children so untouchable? Why cant I blow them up with my fat man in fallout3 or cut there little heads off with my sword in fable...give me one good reason why kids should be protected from every thing adults go though...we all live in the same world. and the day that we start treating children like equals instead of pets will be a day where humanity moves forward.
Umm, it's impossile to treat Children as Adults, seeing as they're not mentally and physically developed like us. Plus, it's our job as parents/siblings/good fucking people to look after and out for them.

We don't treat them like pets, either.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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EinTheCorgi said:
the way I simply see it is that we live in reality "A" and anime/video games are reality "B"

Reality "A" has real people. reality "B" dosnt so When Im in reality "B" i want to be able to kill,steal,rape,blow up what ever and who ever i feel like...because if im not allowed to do that in reality "B" then i may just have to do it in reality "A" and no one wants that.
Nope. You can kill/mutilate/torture imaginary people all you want. But you wank to an imaginary anime image of a 13 year old girl? Go to prison you creepy bastard!
 

magicmonkeybars

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Another victory for democracy !
I love this kind of symbolic toughness, your children are safe because we've caught a man who looks at drawings.

O|<= look I drew a topless seven year old girl, now you too own child pornography.

Seriously though, this is just a way for people to feel safe, we can't stop child abuse until it has already happened and that frightens people into making laws like this and punishing people who read manga or create it.

We can't curb human nature and for a species that has made it it's goal to dominate the natural world that is a very disturbing reality, one many want to hide from or atleast blame something for.

This is no different from the people who blame violent videogames and movies for shootings or prostitutes/pornography for causing rape.

We are a sad and primitive species.
 

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All I'll say is this: If this decision sets the precedent, I wish them good luck trying to eliminate both human nature and the internet.
 

Danish rage

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
And your perfectly fine with what amounts to a witch hunt to put us away for owning loli art?
Sure, in my mind it´s child pornografy, try and keep that in mind please.
But it is that kind of view that creates a hostile and negative area for people like me, who do not wish to harm children, but find animated drawings arousing. It is the same argument I hear all the time that "I don't hate gays, but I don't feel they should have equal rights". It is using your morals to persecute others.
Nooo, you can go ahead and find animated pictures arousing, thats ok. It´s the child part that´s not. I just don´t understand WHY they must be of children? WHY?
 

Alizee Serenity

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My innocence I think collapsed reading all this. Since I was young I never thought about the long run of translators or even reading manga translated by such. If they're going to bust one, there's going to be more, then the readers, then the publishers, then all will be banned and burned.

Seriously, take a deep breath and take a step back and define your lines better justice system. There's right, there's wrong, but there is the unknown area that needs more then one look over and this would be the one. I'm against child exploits in all forms, but I'm sure that's not what the creators had in mind-nor the translators or the publishers! If it was too risque the material would have been denied right?
 

EinTheCorgi

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I simply mean treating them like humans...if my daughter wants to stay up, I let her but I sure do make sure she goes to school. Im saying to give our kids a longer chain to let them see that stupid actions have bad consequences. but anyway what im getting at is I love my daughter to pieces but im not going to get all butt hurt if some one kills an npc in a video game/movie/manga ect thats supposed to be her because as long as the real one is fine im fine.
 

Alon Shechter

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Erm, I broke an underage soccer player's leg on Fifa by kicking him in the balls, am I in deep trouble?
 

Thaluikhain

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
But it is that kind of view that creates a hostile and negative area for people like me, who do not wish to harm children, but find animated drawings arousing. It is the same argument I hear all the time that "I don't hate gays, but I don't feel they should have equal rights". It is using your morals to persecute others.
Um...bit of a leap from being sexually aroused by members of one's own gender, to being sexually aroused by children.

Personally, I'm a bit uncertain as to whether or not laws like this are the best idea, but I definately see a legitimate reason for them.
 

EinTheCorgi

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Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
And your perfectly fine with what amounts to a witch hunt to put us away for owning loli art?
Sure, in my mind it´s child pornografy, try and keep that in mind please.
But it is that kind of view that creates a hostile and negative area for people like me, who do not wish to harm children, but find animated drawings arousing. It is the same argument I hear all the time that "I don't hate gays, but I don't feel they should have equal rights". It is using your morals to persecute others.
Nooo, you can go ahead and find animated pictures arousing, thats ok. It´s the child part that´s not. I just don´t understand WHY they must be of children? WHY?
because If i say "you cant have a cookie" but then set one on the table right next to you, your going to want that cookie even more.
 

Danish rage

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NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
And your perfectly fine with what amounts to a witch hunt to put us away for owning loli art?
Sure, in my mind it´s child pornografy, try and keep that in mind please.
But it is that kind of view that creates a hostile and negative area for people like me, who do not wish to harm children, but find animated drawings arousing. It is the same argument I hear all the time that "I don't hate gays, but I don't feel they should have equal rights". It is using your morals to persecute others.
Nooo, you can go ahead and find animated pictures arousing, thats ok. It´s the child part that´s not. I just don´t understand WHY they must be of children? WHY?


In your view, how old would this girl be?

Her age? 125. It's the Japanese art style that makes her appear to be younger than she is. Also, naked images are not allowed to show pubic hair, so the age of the characters appears even lower.
THAT my good Sir is a child. No matter what if the trivia says she 1 bazillion years old, THAT is STILL a little child.
 

RedEyesBlackGamer

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Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
RedEyesBlackGamer said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
NameIsRobertPaulson said:
Danish rage said:
Well, i find it fair they judged drawings of minors in sexual context as child pornografy.

Im a dad and a manga reader.
While you have your rights as a parent to that, the fact remains that no one was hurt in this process, and the law was far overstepped.

As someone with a fairly large lolicon collection, I find this to be stupidity beyond reason. Am I a pedophile because I have these images? No. I find the idea of doing something like that to an actual human under the age of 16 disgusting, consent or not.

Makes no sense. Why would you have the pictures in the first place?

What do you do with those pictures?, be hornest. No..ok.
I wank to those pictures. Why? Because I find all animated characters attractive. My lolicon archive is about 100 Megs. My entire hentai (animated porn) archive is about 10 gigs. Rei Ayanami is hot (technically lolicon since she's 14). But does this make me a pedophile? No.
Oh...my.... ....well then, go right ahead . But when stuff like this end some of you up in jail and at the bottom of the prison food chain, don´t say society didn´t warn you.

In my mind it´s wrong on so many levels to depict children in sexual context, and fortunally im not the only one.
And your perfectly fine with what amounts to a witch hunt to put us away for owning loli art?
Sure, in my mind it´s child pornografy, try and keep that in mind please.
But it is that kind of view that creates a hostile and negative area for people like me, who do not wish to harm children, but find animated drawings arousing. It is the same argument I hear all the time that "I don't hate gays, but I don't feel they should have equal rights". It is using your morals to persecute others.
Nooo, you can go ahead and find animated pictures arousing, thats ok. It´s the child part that´s not. I just don´t understand WHY they must be of children? WHY?
Because they can be rather adorable. And WHY the fuck does it bother you? WHY do you feel personally offended at drawings that aren't even life like. WHY?