Which games have gone on long enough?
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Oh great, this thread is just an invitation to say "ZELDA/MARIO/METROID/NINTENDO NEEDS TO DIE!"
Ignoring, of course, the fact that PS3 and Xbox have their own Zeldas/Marios/Metroids. Just because they haven't been around as long doesn't mean that they aren't the same damned games over and over again.
Of course, at LEAST half of you will disagree with me due to rampant and rabid Nintendo hatred.
Ignoring, of course, the fact that PS3 and Xbox have their own Zeldas/Marios/Metroids. Just because they haven't been around as long doesn't mean that they aren't the same damned games over and over again.
Of course, at LEAST half of you will disagree with me due to rampant and rabid Nintendo hatred.
Resident Evil 5 felt like one too far for a couple of reasons:
1. I know it's largely a B movie premise for zombie shenanigans, but the same cast and the same corporation with a long public history of being evil continuing to show up and do further evil is beyond tired. Give us a fresh premise at least.
2. the clanging mismatch of enforced co-op combat coupled with a combat style better suited to survival horror. It worked in RE4 when it was you and a schoolgirl vs the world: you and a combat hardened soldier with busted AI just ruined any tension the scenario might have created.
1. I know it's largely a B movie premise for zombie shenanigans, but the same cast and the same corporation with a long public history of being evil continuing to show up and do further evil is beyond tired. Give us a fresh premise at least.
2. the clanging mismatch of enforced co-op combat coupled with a combat style better suited to survival horror. It worked in RE4 when it was you and a schoolgirl vs the world: you and a combat hardened soldier with busted AI just ruined any tension the scenario might have created.
Id say Sonic. I feel bad for the poor thing. They need to take him out back, and hit him over the head with a shovel, just to end his miserable life.
Shit. I hadn't realized how much hate there was for Final Fantasy. I really feel it should go on, while I agree there has been a general drop in quality since X. If nothing else, you can't say that they don't try new things. Other than that, I pretty much agree with everything Zero Machine said. While I agree that new IP would be preferable, I also say pretty much all these franchises are fun. Also, I think it's funny-and very good-that nobody mentioned Elder Scrolls/Fallout.
I didn't get the connection with 10 that I got with VINameIsRobertPaulson said:
Oh, and you get 3 internets because of your name.
Honestly, I can only really say Call of Duty and Madden. Most other series that I'm aware of tend to either mix it up enough to warrant sequels or stay interesting because of the story. Hell, I'm fine with Final Fantasy still happening because they DO change the gameplay up a bit with each new iteration. It's not for me, but some people like it.
Games like CoD and Madden simply need to take a page from Valve's book, the way I see it. Specifically, the way they run TF2. Why bother making a new game every year that people need to buy when you can just update and renew your current one? There's no need for a TF3, there was no need for a CoD 5.
And before someone says, "They have to get... money," I'm speaking optimistically enough that the people who labor over these games actually want, first and foremost, people to enjoy their creations. Not just to spend money on them.
Games like CoD and Madden simply need to take a page from Valve's book, the way I see it. Specifically, the way they run TF2. Why bother making a new game every year that people need to buy when you can just update and renew your current one? There's no need for a TF3, there was no need for a CoD 5.
And before someone says, "They have to get... money," I'm speaking optimistically enough that the people who labor over these games actually want, first and foremost, people to enjoy their creations. Not just to spend money on them.
In my opinion people need to realign there perspective here. It shouldn't matter how long a games been running if each release is highly polished high quality game. This usually applies to Nintendo games but I'll extend it to something like Halo as well. Until a series starts to falter, like Sonic for one, or Final Fantasy still has some life in it but is faltering and needs a big rebound, just keep them going I say.
The problem on the other hand is when a game finds big success and cashing in it's name the company 'franchises' it, releasing a series of minimal upgrade sequels on a short release cycle. Activision is the obvious culprit here, having already over saturated us with Guitar Hero until it became irrelevant and are continuing to milk Call of Duty for all it's worth.
The key here is that a recognized name is a guarantee sale, and a guarantee sale should lead to a higher development budget and a more flexible release schedule to polish the game till it's just right. Complain about the sequels that don't take advantage of this and leave the good guys alone. Forcibly shutting down the Mario/Zelda/Final Fantasy/Halo/etc franchises will not bring you better games.
The problem on the other hand is when a game finds big success and cashing in it's name the company 'franchises' it, releasing a series of minimal upgrade sequels on a short release cycle. Activision is the obvious culprit here, having already over saturated us with Guitar Hero until it became irrelevant and are continuing to milk Call of Duty for all it's worth.
The key here is that a recognized name is a guarantee sale, and a guarantee sale should lead to a higher development budget and a more flexible release schedule to polish the game till it's just right. Complain about the sequels that don't take advantage of this and leave the good guys alone. Forcibly shutting down the Mario/Zelda/Final Fantasy/Halo/etc franchises will not bring you better games.
In one sense, I do agree with you. Why the hell is Halo 4 being Halo /4/? Why not go and do something else in the Halo universe? There is plenty out there, and there really are not that many Halo games. Every one who says there are obviously haven't seen the list of Zelda, Mario, Final Fantasy (Insert other series which has more then ten games released in the last twenty years).AwkwardTurtle said:
final FRAKKING fantasy...
You'd think they'd improve on story since ten was really good, but no.... they came up with 13, then subsequently 13-2...
That did NOT work with ff10, and if it plays out the same, I hope any other sequels die in a fire
You'd think they'd improve on story since ten was really good, but no.... they came up with 13, then subsequently 13-2...
That did NOT work with ff10, and if it plays out the same, I hope any other sequels die in a fire
apparently Sonic is dead. lol
im personally excited for the next few Halos, although i'm worried that 343 will F them up. and if they do, i'll kill them all, i swear on my life.
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but what about movies!? because SCREW the friggin Saw movies! xD someone will put that up as a thread in the next couple weeks most likely XP
im personally excited for the next few Halos, although i'm worried that 343 will F them up. and if they do, i'll kill them all, i swear on my life.
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but what about movies!? because SCREW the friggin Saw movies! xD someone will put that up as a thread in the next couple weeks most likely XP