Both are equally heinous, but DRM is a big catalyst for piracy. So I gotta go with that.
Piracy is piracy, but DRM makes more people do it.
Piracy is piracy, but DRM makes more people do it.
Which is the bigger problem? Piracy or DRM?
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Totally missed the point. If something isn't worth paying for then it's not worth having when it comes to things made by others to make a living.BoredRolePlayer said:
Your overwhelming sense of entitlement is staggering. "I deserve things I don't pay for because " is just mind boggling.
Piracy, by its defintion, is worse. It's illegal, and it is the direct causal reason for the increase DRM measures we've been made to endure.
Think of this way: if there were no DRM, piracy would still exist. It might even get worse, since there would be nothing stopping it at all.
However, if there were no piracy, DRM would no longer have a purpose, and for all intents and purposes cease to be.
Think of this way: if there were no DRM, piracy would still exist. It might even get worse, since there would be nothing stopping it at all.
However, if there were no piracy, DRM would no longer have a purpose, and for all intents and purposes cease to be.
Thats depends on where you get it from. Sites like Youtube and Hulu have agreements with publishers and other companies to allow people to view anime on their websites in return for advertisments or subscriptions.Robot Overlord said:
So while you personally might not pay to watch, someone somewhere pays out to the publisher when you watch a show on that site.
Now if you torrent it, or use some of the seedier sites, then yes, you have an issue.
Yes, I might have been doing it wrong, or downloaded a version where the crack was flawed, but it was an inconvenience so I decided that steam sold the game which made me able to download it legally without considering any problems installing it since Steam does both the download and installing while I sit back and relax. I wont say DRM is a great thing, maybe not even a good thing. It hurts the consumer at the same time as it doesn't prevent piracy for long.ciortas1 said:
However there are the cases of creative protection of games such as the love simulator for DS where you would never get lucky if you pirated it. If it didn't prevent piracy it at least sucked all the fun out of pirating.
And I think you missed the point of my original post where I said that I do not like DRM, but it's there for a reason. If no-one pirated no DRM would be needed, or don't you see that?
Let's now consider a world without pirates, would Ubisoft give us their awful game protection that punishes their customers? If you want to disagree again, answer that question before you say anything else please.
Wow someone who never met me thinks I steal every game I play all because I made a anti DRM comment. Lets see if I support piracy and the mind set of "I deserve things I don't pay for" why do I own 70+ ds games(I can go count them if you want a perfect number), around 35 psp(and I recently bought Kingdom Hearts, Knights in Nightmare and ZHP for the psp) games, 67 PC games on steam alone(two are expansion packs though), around 20 ps3 games, at least 15 ps2 games that would cost 30+ to get used in a someone decent condition(Shin Megami Tensi, any Nippon Ichi Software, the .Hack games just too name my rarest series of games I have for it). Plus if you look at my xbox gamer tag you will see I have a 109 games play, now subtract 14 to get a rough idea on how many I own (I sold a few of them and I let a friend play a couple of games under my name). Yeah so am I a pirate? I mean I am not for DRM in any means because it's a scam to prevent you from selling a game you don't want anymore (project 10 dollar for example makes it so if I don't wanna lose money I have to buy it new).Cryo84R said:
Get off your high horse, and the video I showed was about how buying the game with DRM can cause you problem and he did mention having to buy the same game twice because he was told his disc was messed up by Securom. He showed you he had the disc, he showed you the two CD rom drives, and he showed you him running it before the crack. How did I miss the point when I am saying DRM is crap because it can assume you are stealing a game?
Non-sense. Sharing games with friends has been a long-standing gaming tradition, but even if people hadn't worked out how to make copies (essentially just the next step from sharing) the current attitudes of publishers would still be to try and force everyone who wants to play to have their own copy - simple matter of squeezing the pennies that companies like to do.TheComedown said:
The fact that it's so easy nowadays has just made it easier for companies to validate their position, though I don't believe that there's been any conclusive study showing that pirated games have done any worse than they would have otherwise - in fact, most big AAA titles have done great and been pirated. That should tell you something about how far out of proportion the publishers are blowing the issue.
Also, what happened to demos? There used to be tonnes of demos for all the main releases and more, but now it's just some of the fringe releases that bother. That's not good business if you're charging £50 for a luxury product that's easy to get for free...
...and, do you mean that makes it worse ? how ?Anarchemitis said:
Actually this isn't true, with copyright enforcement being basically DRM and older than the internet.
On the other hand sharing is a natural behavior that was there since the dawn of man, it's not a behavior that would have survived if it wasn't good for us.
While out of two, DRM is the bigger problem. However, an insignificant minority gives a damn about either, so nothing will change.
DRM stops day 0 and day 1 piracy where the publisher makes most of there salesJourneyThroughHell said:
As soon as the game is craked game sales drop
so yes DRM dose work
first off Day 0 is before the launch dateGarak73 said:
and because the longer they delay the cracks the more people will just give up and buy the game