Whine: I got quoted 12 times and not one person understood what I meant.

[octafish]

A metric cup is 250ml, just saying. There are metric measuring cups and measuring spoons too.

 

[Choppaduel]

The general convention seems to be that if your farming or working with wood, then you use imperial. If your doing science, or want to be precise, or are doing anything else really, then you use SI.

In my experience, there are many things that just can't be sufficiently described or efficiently calculated in the imperial system. I remember doing a number of physics problems in highschool (yes we had a physics class) using the imperial system for a change, took ages and was a real pain to operate in inconsistent bases. (instead of a unified base 10 system)

...and OP, when more than 10 people(in this setting: escapist forums) "misinterpret" what you wrote, its quite likely that the blame lies with your writing.

... and you know what else? It massively does lie with you; that's probably the most provocative way you have phrased that opinion and still have gotten it past the mods... or maybe it didn't get past them.

 

[GrizzlerBorno]

I like to hear that the temperature is a nice even 70F, not a random 21.1C. The boiling and freezing temperature of water is irrelevant when I want data on the climate for my day. Just because they made the scale 0-100 doesn't make it instantly better.

I wasn't going to post, but I just HAD to pick this out. Yeah sorry, man but you're not converting anyone in that fight; I don't want my Temperature scale to start with some Completely Arbitrary value thank you very much.

I mean What is 0 Fahrenheit in Celsius? -30 something? What? Why? Even Kelvin has it's Zero mark in a distinct tangible value (not saying that it is in any way practical for everyday use, ofcourse). Below 0 celsius: It's snowing. Above 0 celsius: it's not. That is So plain and simple.

I know you already confessed that Fahrenheit doesn't necessarily make sense, but it works for you since you're used to it and all. My question is if America DID change just it's Temp system, would you have too much trouble changing back? I'd go as far as to ask if you'd want that, since.....dude, Celsius makes more sense.

 

[Astoria]

Misinterperated huh, I know how that feels. Even though we use the metric system here for most things we sometimes use things like feet and inches to decribe things, they just might not be completely accurate. And with the whole decimal thing, we pretty much only use decimals when a measurement needs to precise otherwise we just round it off.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Like I said, old people really have a problem getting over the learning hump and they will complain with the dumbest arguments...

So start teaching kids the metric system and we can avoid these clown shows in the future.

 

[Cain_Zeros]

Speaking of football, my friend said today that Canadians should call hockey "football" just to further confuse the debate between English and American football.

But that would be silly, because there are differences between Canadian football and American football. It's not a completely different sport, but it is different. Not sure why I know that, considering I'm not a huge fan of football, or sports in general, but I do.

Anyway, I kinda see where you're coming from. I use kind of a mixture, and can do a few conversions easily enough (one meter = 3.3 feet, 1 kilogram = 2.2 lbs, figuring out practical things requires a little more math, but oh well).

 

[ToAsTy McBuTTeR]

lets choose the system that has more random, organic measurements so that we may sound more cool when we use the chosen words for describing life-changing distance comparisons.

because you know, being cool is so underrated.

the one good argument you have is cultural differences, but the rest is garbage.

so because you simply disagree with my stance, it's garbage? Well, by that logic, your post is also garbage because I disagree with it. Or are you the king of garbage deciding? 'cause if that's the case, then my humble opinion has no weight in declaring your post garbage and I apologize for making such an egregious accusation.

as the seasoned reader would notice, i did not explicitly take sides; i merely pointed out the flaws of your argument through sarcasm. but, given what you have said thus far in this so called discussion, my attempts at explaining myself are, at best, futile.

i also hear that this sort of behavior is popular among the american midwestern tribes, and is often used as a ritual to seduce the females (preferably under the effects of moonshine).

can i get ONE person who DOESN'T live in the american midwest to admit that not all of us are hicks? i am in no way saying that saint louis is a goddamn eden amidst a dystopian wasteland of drunken cousin fuckers but christ give us SOME credit.

i certainly do not believe that all british people fear the dentist and oral care products like 5 year olds fear nosferatu, nor do i assume that all irsh are drunken morons fit to only shine in a bar brawl, nor do i believe that all asians are good at math to a point that makes pythagoras look like a mouth-breathing head-trauma victim.

so for the love of fairness keep your hick and redneck jokes pointed at the people you want to insult cause i highly doubt anyone on the idiocy level you imply actually has the attention span to play games let alone post on a game/media forumn.

OT: Meters always seemed more precise to me, wish kelvin was the staple temperature gauge and always thought it was fucking hilarious that people actually used a king's FOOT as a method of measuring anything... god complex much?

PS: for the record, try moonshine before you bash it, it goes down rather smoothly for something brewed in a backyard.

PPS: Rawr, so much serious in that my head hurt.

 

[BringBackBuck]

The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I like it.


Also, this:

..my friend said today that Canadians should call hockey "football" just to further confuse the debate between English
and American football.

is pure genius.

 

[Signa]

The same goes for temperature. I like to hear that the temperature is a nice even 70F, not a random 21.1C. The boiling and freezing temperature of water is irrelevant when I want data on the climate for my day. Just because they made the scale 0-100 doesn't make it instantly better.

Now as this fellow pointed out:

You know, metric doesn't have to be super-precise. When it's 21.1 we say "20 degrees", and when someone tells you it's 70 in Fahrenheit it's probably more like 68.3 or 73.1.

I hate the temperature system in the imperial system for the simple reason that it is on a non-linear scale. Equal incremental changes on the scale do NOT equal equivalent incremental changes in temperature on the Fahrenheit scale.

Wait, that's news to me. Are you saying that 300F is not exactly 3x hotter than 100F? As in 101F is not 1/100th hotter than 100F?

 

[vxicepickxv]

The metric system is the tool of the devil! My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I like it.


Also, this:

..my friend said today that Canadians should call hockey "football" just to further confuse the debate between English
and American football.

is pure genius.

If you got 40 rods to the hogshead, you should trade it in for something more fuel efficient, like NASA's crawler.

I do like that genius idea.

 

[Signa]

21 degrees celcius is nice. Most people don't say 21.1, they say 21. If it gets high enough, (21.6 or 21.7) we just say 22. Honestly, I can't understand Farenheit. Your freezing point is the same as a point where I'm sweltering.

I live in Seattle. All I know is when I took a vacation up to Canada one weekend, the weather report on TV used decimals for more accurate representations of the temperature.

Keep in mind that while I'm arguing for the precision of these measurements, we also do throw out estimated values in everyday speech. I'm sure users of both systems do the same, so the argument is irrelevant.

First off, I hate clicking the respond box and seeing a damn captcha box popping up underneath.

But that's beside the point. What I wanted to say is, while your argument sounds completely valid and holds its respective ground, I must let you know...

This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard someone argue about. Ever.

Thanks. I try

Honestly though, is it not better that we argue something like this instead of talking about another sexuality topic, or "insert your favorite X here" like this forum has died down to? After so many repeat topics, I welcome a petty, but mature argument about the advantages and disadvantages of a culture clash.

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so the only reason you think fahrenheit is better is cause thats what you are used too?

i still think your cooking example is silly. in your metric example your adding 10/200th extra or somthing like that. something small. then in your imperial example your adding like 300% more. adding 10 more units when dealing with milliliters is not the same as adding 10 more units when using a cup. its just not the same and honestly its making me think your a bit wierd and i dont want to eat anything you cook.

It's meant to be exaggerated and silly. Once again, I'm auguring the number of measuring units we allow ourselves to go over. When it's small, there is a lot of leeway, which technically is an advantage, but juxtapose that onto the other system and it's just laughable.

can i get ONE person who DOESN'T live in the american midwest to admit that not all of us are hicks? i am in no way saying that saint louis is a goddamn eden amidst a dystopian wasteland of drunken cousin fuckers but christ give us SOME credit.

I know I'm not representing myself very intelligently here, but I'm from Seattle and I read a stat where we were the 5th most educated city in the country or something. I probably spent the most time on my response to the same post you also responded to just trying to dumb myself down enough to sound like a hillbilly while writing. If you didn't see it before though, I consider this a throwaway topic to bicker and have some fun with. HOPEFULLY I'm not looking too dumb while doing it.

Maybe if you had said "how inconvenient the proportions are" or offered a brief explanation, you might not have gotten flamed, but if you just call the sizes "dumb," you're bound to get some heat.

Imagine if, instead of pointing out a specific reason you may have been misunderstood, my comment only said "This thread is dumb. Stop complaining." Would you really be able to sympathize with me if I started a thread later about how that comment was misunderstood?

You read the original post I copied. I said "the sizes of the measurements". Perhaps I was trying to be too concise, but if you read it closely, I don't see how it could be misinterpreted. Your comment on the other hand (while also true), doesn't leave much room for misinterpretation. And I'm not looking for sympathy, it was just humorous and remarkable. I've never had so many quotes in my inbox between visits here, and it was just amusing how none of them understood what I meant.

 

[JohnnyDelRay]

Go to McD's and ask for a double quarter-kilogrammer!
I've managed to be able to do pretty good rough conversions for most things, but the Farenheit-Celsius thing just messes me up every time...Other than that, this just falls into the little list of niggling things: standards that vary from country to country. My dream is one day we all use the same power plugs, and drive on the same side of the road, but we all know that'll never happen.

 

[Signa]

Yup, that's exactly what I meant. Temperature can be expressed in terms of energy-which determines how hot or how cold an object is-and 300F does NOT mean that it contains 3x the energy at 100F. However, an object at 30 degrees Celsius will have 3x the energy of an object at 10 degrees Celsius.
(Please also note that I'm overly simplifying my examples for the sake of convenience)

Damn, now I need to look up later where and how it scales. I've always thought the numbers were constant....



Waiiiiiit... How does the Celsius conversion work then? If Celsius stays constant, then whey does the conversion formula stay constant too? I'm not looking it up now, but I thought the conversion was something like F=C2.5+32 or something like that. That would have to change at some point in the higher digits if one degree in Celsius doesn't stay 2.5 degrees in Fahrenheit.

Assuming you're right though, it does change my argument for Fahrenheit. I'm not going to back a system that is inconsistent! That's the whole point of a measurement system!

 

[mjc0961]

So what I'm seeing here is that you communicated your opinion on the metric system poorly, people took it the wrong way because again you communicated it poorly, and now you're upset.

All I can say is that you should be upset with yourself, and next time, try to make it more clear what you were thinking in the first place. Also, something is wrong if you have that many people not understanding. If it gets around 5, I would have personally gone back and edited the original post so it was more clear from the start. Sure beats trying to individually re-explain yourself every time the original, very unclear post gets quoted.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

Opinion is opinion, but as for measuring of temperature, if you're cooking, Celsius is really the way to go due to needing to boil water and so forth when cooking. [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment]