White males only scholarship

[LiftYourSkinnyFists]

Well, that sounds brilliant, shame people have to call it racist and all that not as if there are hundreds of places that only help minorities rather than us menacing fat cat rich white boss folk.

 

[PunkRex]

Also, NO MORE FUCKING SPORTS SCHOLARSHIPS. I'm tired of seeing utterly useless bullies and shitheads getting a free ride because the only thing they can do is throw a fucking ball farther than anyone else in the area, or hit something or someone.

Completely ignoring your raging, biased comment about "bullies and shitheads" that is clearly rooted in being thrown into lockers one too many times at school, this will never happen because:

1. Athletic scholarships are the only way some people have access to college at all. Only 2-3% of NCAA athletes actually go into professional sports, but all of them have the opportunity to take advantage of their college experience if they choose to study hard and not take a bullshit major

2. Collegiate sports are very large revenue generators for many schools. My undergrad school had an $80+ million athletic department, and 20 percent of its revenues were turned over to the school for academic and administrative use

Firstly, I was never shoved in a locker. Nor, for that matter, did any bully ever pick a fight with me. No, at 250 pounds and taller than most people I was not the boy that was fucked with. I never played sports, but that doesn't mean I wasn't strong or fast.

Secondly, I know how much collegiate sports makes. However, the only way that anyone should get a free ride to college is if they have very high grades and maybe volunteer work, or in needs based scholarships. Sports is taken as one of the most important aspects of college, but frankly sports are just there for fun. They have no academic value, nor any real value to the human race whatsoever except to have fun. Fun. That's it. Think about it - many people get free rides to college for being the best at something fun that has no other value. No, sports scholarships are not good at all, and never have been. Humanity as a whole could get so much farther if every single scholarship were based only on need or merit, because then the people that really deserve it - the incredibly hard-working kids - could get in and do more.

A career in sports is still a career. Its all some people have and there are many sportsman who sweat blood for what they do. I understand there are many who think their the shiznit and as a result misuse their talents, just look at all the footballes who party 24/7 but then look at all the others who help where they can via charity.

Your right in the idea that the hard workers should be the ones to get the opportunites but would you say that someone whos gets in via something like a computer scolarship (or what ever they may be called) and then after graduating goes on to make games that it was watsed money as what their doing is pointless fun (not getting into weather you consider games art, I do but thats beside the point right now)?

Ooooh, goodie, a real civil discussion.

While you may be right in that a handful of sportsmen put a lot of their money toward charities, the fact is that most sportsmen (and women, just to be politically correct) are still head-up-their-asses boys that get (and blow) a lifetime's worth of money in a few years. And yet these kinds of people get many scholarships. Sure, there are some for the kids that work their asses off, but not many. That scholarship money is still better spent on kids that have proven themselves to be worthy, dependable, hard-working young men and women who will not only get through college with consistently good grades but will go into the workforce of the world and do something useful, at least for the most part.

As for the young man who does work hard and does put himself through college and winds up working for, say, Epic Games? Well, he worked hard before hand, and worked hard in school. His profession isn't much more worthy than the boy who plays football, but his work ethic is. It could be put to better use, but let's stop and think for a minute - games are a function of computers, not essential but they are a function. They take a whole lot of computing power, and for that computers must get more powerful as games get bigger and faster. While gaming may not necessarily be a race-advancing use of intelligence, it often indirectly makes our computers and internet evolve. More powerful computers have helped science to find out more in a hundred years than we could have ever dreamed of learning in a thousand without them. So that boy who needed a better graphics card to make Unreal Tournament 2020 run perfectly got NVIDIA to make something more powerful, and for that to be supported NVIDIA needed a better processor, so Intel made a quadrillion core (that'd be awesome) processor. A new OS was needed, so MS... you know what I'm saying. That's not necessarily a good representation of how gaming made computers evolve, and gaming certainly wasn't the only factor, but you understand what I'm saying.

First off as I said I agree with your ideas of work effort, I do think of myself as a student of the great Might Guy (even if I could never live up to him or Rock Lee).

I guessed you would mention computer development as a point in it being something more then just fun but think about the aspects that dont go into tech development (again you could argue that all aspects of the project count as a whole) initial character and loction design (hand drawn, again I know sometimes its done on computer) story and dialouge, surely people who do such amazing things should not just be cast off as having no value to society.

Again I know im blowing the same horn here but Sports rake in a ton of money for charity and as far as I know (which I regret to say isnt much) help in the advance of biological science like whats good for the body, whats bad for it, how to reach peek perfection, etc.

This is were I feel like im proberly streching things as this is complete oppinion but surely people like comedians and artists (painters, sculpters), writers dont deserve to be thrown aside as no value to society. Hard work is an amazing thing that can push any boundry but why cant this also count for the arts and sports (I also kind of consider sports art). I agree that to much money is diverted to it sometimes but as a whole I still believe its an amazing thing. After all if we didnt have these things we would be colder then the tech we advance and now im starting to sound like those f'ing car comercials so in short "why all work and no play when you can play hard and work hard, variety shapes a society"

 

[AngryPuppy]

Equality works both ways, this is a great program.

Couldn't agree more. Personally feel that any and all programs who reward you based on color should be done away with completely.

 

[DracoSuave]

I can applaud this scholorship not because it celebrates equality (it doesn't) but because it, unless hundreds of other scholorships, outwardly states that it discriminates for white males, rather than many other scholorships which only secretly do so.


All sarcasm aside, for you to claim this scholorship is promoting equality, first you actually have to get rid of the majority of scholorships that give money predominantly to white males. While the situation is improving, there truly is no need for this scholorship, unlike scholorships for blacks or for hispanic women, or whatever, which are intended to make college representation more aligned to the demographic of human population.

Translation: More college goers and scholorship winners are white males than the percentage of the population that are white males. That means that either white males are incredibly lucky, or there's some sort of discrimination going down, either systemic or otherwise.

Taking a single scholorship out of that context, and saying it is okay because other scholorships do 'the same thing' also out of context, and claiming it is equality is not understanding what equality is.

 

[Ithera]

I believe everybody should have the opportunity to get a scholarship, If a certain group is found lacking in this department, then by all means grant them one. The USA likes to tout itself as the land of opportunities? By all means, provide such opportunities. As long as everybody gets a decent chance I'm all for it.

 

[emeraldrafael]

I dont see whats wrong with it.

I mean, we hav ea black student union on top of our regular student union at my college. and there are plenty of scholarships for just minorities already.

Just as long as it doesnt go too far.

 

[Jamboxdotcom]

oh boy, another troll thread. after the sexual harassment thread the other day, i knew who authored this thread before i even opened it. at least this one is slightly more subtle.

OT: Is there a double standard in scholarships? Yes. Is that wrong? No. Guess what? Complaining about the white man's burden, or creating scholarships for the benefit of white men is the same as being an unsporting winner. Even when we're poor, we have it easier than any other demographic, so creating a scholarship just for us is like saying "fuck all y'all!"

 

[Knightvision]

If you find the program racist, then you are a racist.

 

[Dr.A]

No, giving more people a chance would be giving more people a chance, not simply giving more white males a chance. I agree with you, people who don't have anything... "wrong" as you used it, with them should deserve a chance.

In some government schemes you have to be a minority to receive aid, since minorities apparently have difficulty getting scholarships. With this scheme you have to be a white male, since now they apparently have difficulty getting scholarships. It's the exact same thing, but with a different definition of what the "wrong" thing to be is.

Everyone should get a chance, and these things are the exact definition of racism, which we should be trying to end. You shouldn't even have to give information on your race to apply for a scholarship, it should have nothing to do with it.

Oh yeah, I certainly see where you're coming from. No scholarships should be based on race, but on financial need or academic ability. However, getting everyone in the country to drop their scholarships for different people would be much harder, I daresay impossible, than just making one more kind of scholarship. It just kind of says that everyone's got something wrong with them.

 

[ultimateownage]

I'm still of the firm belief that White, Middle Aged, Average Height, Average Weight Caucasian Males are under represented. That specific group doesn't outnumber every other group combined you know. Discrimination is no longer "Treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit." Now it's 'Treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing belongs rather than on individual merit, by a more media dominant and group, class, or category larger than the one specified.'
I get that they used to be abused, but racism and sexism seems void when it's done against White Males.

 

[dncarolyn]

I completely support this scholarship. It's not fair that white males can only apply for general scholarships while any other gender/race can apply for those general ones PLUS special ones designated specifically for them. While I think that race/gender-specific scholarships did once serve a purpose, now it's just plain racist to say "well this person is white so they don't need financial assistance, and that person is black so they do". So if these scholarships have to exist, it is only fair that all race and gender combinations be able to have their own. Good on them for doing this.

 

[HellspawnCandy]

I hate these kind of arguments. Oh my god whites only! RAAAAAAAAAAAAACISM! What about those black only scholarships, affirmative action and other scholarships or programs aimed solely on non-whites basically.

Also, about Texas. That's pretty crazy, who would've thought?

 

[Harbinger_]

http://dailycaller.com/2011/02/28/n...-set-to-benefit-white-men-only/#ixzz1FHPJzsPi

A new Texas non-profit has announced its intention to provide scholarships for one group they feel has been left out of college scholarship programs ? white men.

The Former Majority Association for Equality will grant $500 dollar scholarships to any male Texas resident who can prove he is at least 25% Caucasian, has a 3.0 or higher, and can demonstrate both financial need and a commitment to education.

The group was named because of the idea that ?if you?re not male, and you?re not white, you?re called a minority,? Colby Bohannan, the group?s founder, told the Daily Mail. In fact, according to census numbers released earlier this month, non-Hispanic whites are no longer a majority in Texas, making up 42% of the population.

On its website, the group states that its goal is to ?assist young Americans seeking higher education who lack opportunities in similar organizations that are based upon race or gender.?

?There are scholarships offered for almost any demographic imaginable,? it says. ?In a country that proclaims equality for all, we provide monetary aid to those that have found the scholarship application process difficult because they do not fit into certain categories or any ethnic group.?

?We know that we?re going to be receiving some vicious attacks, from people claiming that we are racists, or promoting some bigotry-filled agenda,? Bohannan told Reuters on Thursday.

Despite the inevitable criticism from anti-racism groups, FMAFE maintains that it has no white supremacist agenda, nor does it tolerate anyone who does. Its website says that it was founded on one principle: ?to provide monetary aid for education to white males who need it.?

I await your indignation

To quote the space marine who's name escapes me in the SCII Trailer: "Hell it's about time."

 

[ace_the_poet]

Yes! I was telling my friend late last year that if I get wealthy, I'll likely institute a white guy scholarship. I'm glad somebody noticed that it's actually a lot harder for a white guy to get a scholarship than a minority.

 

[LCP]

why are scholarships even based on race anyway?

It's ridiculous

 

[JUMBO PALACE]

This is anything but bad. I wish this scholarship was around when I was applying to schools. If you're not black, asian, a midget, or a quadruple amputee you can't get shit for scholarship money.

 

[Sejs Cube]

Boy, it sure is tough being a white male. Thank god someone's giving them the tools they need to smooth out some of the social inequities they must face.

 

[DSQ]

At first i was like eh? But then i read it and it seem fair. But i thought that the while male demopgrapic was covered by the - i can't affored uni scholarships.

But y'know i'm sure there are many white males who can't afford uni, i know a few. Sounds like an okay idea to me.