Who is waiting for the Skyrim Game of the Year edition?

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GonzoGamer

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imahobbit4062 said:
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Nope. It's worth an extra $40 to me not to have to wait a year and a half.

Plus, I don't have entitlement issues.
Just out of curiousity, what does buying a game at release have to do with entitlement exactly?

If that is what you meant of course.
Gamers have just been really over/mis-using the term lately. Don't know where the trend started.

The thing is that paying $60 for a game does entitle you to a game that works properly. I'm not into beta testing and especially not into paying $60 to beta test something.
Knowing them, the dlc will probably be a good value; it's been a long time since Horse Armor. I'm waiting because the last game I got from Bethesda crashed every 15 mins.

I also think this "I don't want to beta test your game" argument is way overblown.

Look, nobody was as annoyed as me about how thoroughly broken New Vegas was. But in my experience, that was the exception. I've never played another game at launch that worked nearly that badly. And so far Skyrim has been perfect.
I might have been as annoyed as you. Because after trying to play New Vegas I vowed to never buy a Bethesda game at launch ever again. I would be surprised if they could legally release a game more broken than New Vegas but I aint betting $60 on it.
I'm glad you're not having any issues with Skyrim but I'm hearing about a whole bunch of people who are having crashes, framerate drops, locked quests, and basically all the same problems New Vegas had. Even Bethesda has already announced that they're working on patches; so there are issues. So it seems like the "no beta testing" argument is quite moderately-blown.
From now on, as a rule, I'm waiting for the obligatory "big patch" with any game Bethesda releases. I don't care how good it is.
But New Vegas was developers by Obsidian, not Bethesda.

I've not had much trouble with Skyrim so far.
2 crashes in 65 hours of gameplay and no broken quests so far.

Some problems with certain animations, but nothing gamebreaking.
Bethesda published New Vegas: they looked at it and said "sure it may be broken but people will buy it. Put it on shelves."
Personally, I would rather have a delay than have to play a game that makes me do a hard shut down on my console every half hour...or another third longer. But Bethesda is usually quite generous with content in both their original releases and dlc (not counting horse armor) so I don't have a problem with the way they do dlc.
I hear that the crashes get worse the more you play/the larger your save file gets. They're apparently working on it. I hope your luck continues.
I don't mind the odd little bug or glitch, those crashes can really kill the experience for me.
 

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Yep, but not because of bugs, but the DLC.

Both Oblivion and Fallout 3 disappointed me in terms of DLC (except for Shivering Isles and maybe Point Lookout), so I would rather buy them this time as a package instead of individually.
 

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I'll wait for the game of the year edition.

If the hype in this forum hasn't dropped dead by then, I'll wait even longer until it does.
 

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SenorStocks said:
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Me too.

I'm not paying full whack for a buggy game only to be subsequently raped for copious amounts of DLC if I want the full experience. I'm sure next year's steam sale will solve that problem.
The full experience is already there.
Been there since launch.

Why do people insist on hating more content for a game they like?
To me it makes little sense.

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Bought it at launch, and I'll most likely buy the DLC when they launch too.
Call me impatient, but I just don't want to wait.
Because it's never worth the price and by the time you've bought all of it you've doubled the price of the game. By definition if they are releasing further content you're not getting the whole experience without it. Yes, the complete experience is there for now but it wont stay that way for long.
You must be joking. Skyrim is totally worth every penny for the game and every dlc it gives you AND for the amount of content and entertainment it gives you. I have put over 100 hours already into it and I'm not even anywhere near done completing the main quest yet.

God dammit. I told myself I would stay out of topics like these. >.<
 

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I rented the game, got to 37 and completed a few guilds. great game and everything but I'm trying to hold off till GotY edition. not like I need to worry about online fanbase dying off on a single player game, and I got oblivion still if I feel the need.
 

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SenorStocks said:
kortin said:
SenorStocks said:
fenrizz said:
SenorStocks said:
Me too.

I'm not paying full whack for a buggy game only to be subsequently raped for copious amounts of DLC if I want the full experience. I'm sure next year's steam sale will solve that problem.
The full experience is already there.
Been there since launch.

Why do people insist on hating more content for a game they like?
To me it makes little sense.

OT:
Bought it at launch, and I'll most likely buy the DLC when they launch too.
Call me impatient, but I just don't want to wait.
Because it's never worth the price and by the time you've bought all of it you've doubled the price of the game. By definition if they are releasing further content you're not getting the whole experience without it. Yes, the complete experience is there for now but it wont stay that way for long.
You must be joking. Skyrim is totally worth every penny for the game and every dlc it gives you AND for the amount of content and entertainment it gives you. I have put over 100 hours already into it and I'm not even anywhere near done completing the main quest yet.

God dammit. I told myself I would stay out of topics like these. >.<
You're 17 and like MLP, you just don't know any better so it's no wonder you probably think it's the most awesomest and most bestest game ever. You'd be amused by a game where someone jingles keys in front of your face.

I bought Fallout 2 from GOG for $5.99, that is far better value than any skyrim dlc would ever be. Just because you can get 100 hours out of it doesn't mean it's any good. So no, I'm not joking, kid.
I feel so bad for you. Because you're so horribly misguided enough to think that either of those factors mean anything to whether or not a game is good.
 

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I dont. why pay twice for the product i already have?
also am i the only one old enough to remember when DLCs were called "patches" (not what we call patches now) and used to be free?

Look, nobody was as annoyed as me about how thoroughly broken New Vegas was. But in my experience, that was the exception. I've never played another game at launch that worked nearly that badly. And so far Skyrim has been perfect.
You haven't played Stalker: clear sky then? thats one of the two games i was unable to Finnish due to it being so buggy my saves got corrupted, 3 times.
 

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Ken_J said:
Bethesda being Bethesda will make the GotY edition for Skyrim in a few months to a year. So I'm waiting to get Skyrim and all of it's extra content then for $60 then.

Anyone else in the same boat?
So your going to wait an entire year to save $20....? If money is that tight for you, you should really consider a cheeper hobby.
 

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viranimus said:
Im waiting. Not a fan of the elder scrolls series and its not only thoughtless, but its economically damaging to yield your money for an incomplete value.
Describing Skyrim (really elder scrolls games in general) as "an incomplete value" is painfully ignorant.
Skyrim is inarguably one of the most content-rich single player experiences ever created. Working through all of the factions, powers, and skills it has to offer could easily take 80-100 hours or more. To say nothing of the games replay value.

In a world where the average game campaign is 10 hours or even less, thats remarkable.
 

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Seemed appropriate, but anyway, I won't be waiting for the GOTY because I don't have that kind of patience, but I am waiting for a new PC + a Steam sale + Patches (Devs or modders).

I bought Oblivion GOTY Deluxe edition while it was on sale to keep me occupied for a while, so that's at least something.
 

viranimus

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walrusaurus said:
viranimus said:
Im waiting. Not a fan of the elder scrolls series and its not only thoughtless, but its economically damaging to yield your money for an incomplete value.
Describing Skyrim (really elder scrolls games in general) as "an incomplete value" is painfully ignorant.
Skyrim is inarguably one of the most content-rich single player experiences ever created. Working through all of the factions, powers, and skills it has to offer could easily take 80-100 hours or more. To say nothing of the games replay value.

In a world where the average game campaign is 10 hours or even less, thats remarkable.
Really? because last I checked, Bethesda titles have followed a consistent history of release 80 hour game, then release 2-5 DLC content additions that eventually will be repackaged as one single product for the same price or slightly less than the original 80 hour content block. Regardless of how long it takes to accomplish that, it sounds like the very definition of an incomplete value.

What exactly would you call a product that has 20% less content today, but in a years time will essentially be sold for the same price, but with 20% more content. I guess in that respect you were correct to use the word ignorant, because I personally am unaware of any other term for that situation.

Edit: I dont know if I would point to the recent advents in the industry that have occurred from other negative effects brought about by undereducated consumers. seriously, 10 hour play times would not exist if ignorant people would not willingly give up 60$ and violently defend the justification of dropping that amount on characteristically indistinct brown military centric fps or Branded athletic franchise title complete with updated rosters insert year of retail here. I really dont know if it works to compare the potential of a negative trend with a negative trend already worked out to completion. Especially when that trend only accounts for a fraction of the industry.
 

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SenorStocks said:
You're 17 and like MLP, you just don't know any better so it's no wonder you probably think it's the most awesomest and most bestest game ever. You'd be amused by a game where someone jingles keys in front of your face.
kid.
That's unbelievably out of line.
 

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Absolutely. In other news, New Vegas GOTY (technically Ultimate Edition, but semantics) in February. Can't wait.
 

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SenorStocks said:
You're 17 and like MLP, you just don't know any better so it's no wonder you probably think it's the most awesomest and most bestest game ever. You'd be amused by a game where someone jingles keys in front of your face.

I bought Fallout 2 from GOG for $5.99, that is far better value than any skyrim dlc would ever be. Just because you can get 100 hours out of it doesn't mean it's any good. So no, I'm not joking, kid.
WOW, how fucking pathetic are you to judge someone like that, based on two facts about him/ her. Do you not think it's possible that someone of that age is better than you in some way?

And MLP? Most of the Loading Ready Run crew are avid fans of the show, and they are some of the brightest and funniest people I have seen on the internet in a long time.

So maybe you should change your attitude because in this day and age, anyone can surprise you.
 

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Possibly a stupid question, but will they release said edition if they don't win game of the year? I mean I'm pretty sure Oblivion won it, hence the special edition, but if MW3 wins (which is more than likely) then surely they won't release a GotY edition.
 

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Mewick_Alex said:
Possibly a stupid question, but will they release said edition if they don't win game of the year? I mean I'm pretty sure Oblivion won it, hence the special edition, but if MW3 wins (which is more than likely) then surely they won't release a GotY edition.
There is no definitive GoTY, all it needs is a GoTY award from somewhere to be able to stick it on the box, and I'm sure there's one awarding body who won't hand them out purely on sales figures.
 

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viranimus said:
What exactly would you call a product that has 20% less content today, but in a years time will essentially be sold for the same price, but with 20% more content. I guess in that respect you were correct to use the word ignorant, because I personally am unaware of any other term for that situation.
I call that added value. Its content thats developed later with the intent of bringing people back to a game that they would otherwise have abandoned. Would you prefer that developers just abandoned the games forever once they were released? Continual development of content for great games is a good thing. I don't disagree that there are games that abuse DLC; the recent prevalence of launch-day DLC is particularly distasteful. But i do take issue with claiming Skyrim to be one of them.
 
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Yup. I'm waiting for the GOTY version with all the DLC and all the patches so I can get ALL the content at one time, and have to deal with less crippling bugs.

I heard the console versions of the game are pretty buggy at the moment, and my laptop can't run skyrim for sure. At least, not well. It'd probably look awful, and heat it up like crazy.
 

viranimus

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Tomato, tahmahto. were basically saying the same thing with differently skewn perspectives.

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But i do take issue with claiming Skyrim to be one of them.
So please tell me your rationale extends well beyond "cause I like it" because Bethesda is quickly turning into the Activision of RPGs. Seriously, Bethesda is starting to emerge as an organization of merit when it comes to setting bad precedents. So I fail to see a reason for excusing that behavior, and neither the existence of the elder scrolls or the fallout franchises are able to validate that.