Why am I never allowed to side with the bad guy?

[Trippy Turtle]

I'd do it just to get revenge on all those good guys who thought they could make me obey laws. Even in something like WoW I would love to be one of the bosses minions just healing him or pestering the raiders.
They could add something small in Skyrim like you become a tyrant over the dragons like Alduin was or something and can just summon a flock of dragons to murder a town. Just add some text and one more shout. You can now advertise with "Save the world and become a hero or tyrant! Will you be feared or loved? Its up to you to decide!".

 

[The Wykydtron]

I loved Alpha Protocol for that. You can join the bad guy, betray him and then take over the world in his stead.

Not that i did that of course... He was a pretty stand up bloke and doesn't afraid of anything! Plus the whole this PMC is evil thing wasn't explained very well IMO.

And i'm always the "wait this guy/gal/evil monstrosity sounds interesting, let's see what he has to say!" kind of guy. Hence the accepting of demon deals in every single game where i can... In DA:O for e.g. not one deal went unrefused! Even the one in Awakening where you get betrayed anyway.

Hey just cuz they're demons doesn't mean they automatically dicks... That's racist! Equality for demons and humans dammit!

 

[Combustion Kevin]

often, the antagonist is just there to shoot at whilst taking objectives, and if their evil agenda would succeed there would be no story to go on left.

I prefer my antagonist to be a bit more rational, not "oooh, I'm so evil" but actually doing what he thinks is the right thing to do.

 

[Fishyash]

Cough. Arcanum [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcanum:_Of_Steamworks_and_Magick_Obscura]. Cough.

The game continues on after what was supposed to be the 'good' ending if you decide to join the Big Bad.

End of thread.

I was beaten to it.

...but the evil ending sucked unfortunately. There must be other games where you can join the big bad where it doesn't fail at it miserably.

 

[TheEmoSpeeds666]

The second Norrath game. You can side with either the good guys or the baddies.

 

[GiantRaven]

Cough. Arcanum [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arcanum:_Of_Steamworks_and_Magick_Obscura]. Cough.

The game continues on after what was supposed to be the 'good' ending if you decide to join the Big Bad.

End of thread.

I was beaten to it.

...but the evil ending sucked unfortunately. There must be other games where you can join the big bad where it doesn't fail at it miserably.

I wouldn't say the evil ending sucked. It was a perfectly logical outcome to the clash between the big bad's ultimate plan and the player character's own power.

Spoiler

That is, to say, it makes sense for Kerghan to turn on you since his plan was to destroy everything and it makes sense for the player character to win the dual since making it through the events of the games shows how powerful they are. I don't see what the problem is with that.

 

[ImperialSunlight]

I always wanted to join team Rocket.
Or Team Magma (awesome outfits)

 

[Lunar Templar]

Play Shin Megami Tensei: Lucifer's Call.

Spoiler: Huge spoiler!

Side with Lucifer himself.

Destroy the world and any chance it had to ever recover.

The game ends with you leading the armies of hell to the gates of heaven to kill God himself.

Evil enough for you?

this was the ending i got my first run

was a MASSIVE '0.0!!! holy shit!!! they went there!!!' moment to, and it's still one of my favorite endings, in any game cause of how much its not the 'status-quo-restoring-happy-ending'

 

[Scarim Coral]

How about Link for once forget about the whole hero of time business and decide to team up with Ganondorf or play as a evil being who goal is to release Ganondorf before Link killed you?

 

[elvor0]

In fable 3 at the end you either keep your promises or listen to the biggest evilest bastard for advice, like turning the orphanage into a brothel...a really crappy brothel.

Being evil at that point was really rubbish though, it wasn't being evil, it was doing what you needed to do to make sure nobody died next year. There's no reason why you couldn't make the Kingdom lovely again when we've fended of the shadow creatures of doom..

The bit where you have the choice to drain the lake to make weapons or leave it as it looks nice really fucked me off; "We're all going to fucking die this time next year if I don't drain that lake for metal for weapons and I'm dubbed evil because I want to leave it there?!"

 

[Fishyash]

I wouldn't say the evil ending sucked. It was a perfectly logical outcome to the clash between the big bad's ultimate plan and the player character's own power.

Spoiler

That is, to say, it makes sense for Kerghan to turn on you since his plan was to destroy everything and it makes sense for the player character to win the dual since making it through the events of the games shows how powerful they are. I don't see what the problem is with that.

Kerghan's intent was really clear to me, and it couldn't have been more obvious, which is why I felt it didn't really make too much sense.

Spoiler

I thought your character and Kerghan AGREED to kill EVERYTHING, so why is it that all of the sudden you need to defend yourself, why is it that he "turns on you"? It makes sense for him to try and kill you, but it doesn't make sense to fight back in the first place.

 

[sshakespeare]

I'd really like to have more options to play evil characters in open world rpgs like The Elder Scrolls games, for example in Skyrim you can play as an assassin and/or thieve and generally be an ass and thats a good experience (well apart from the fact my thieves guild questline broke) but I really want the option to become a bandit and have various goals like raiding farms/settlements comitting highway robbery etc

 

[GiantRaven]

Kerghan's intent was really clear to me, and it couldn't have been more obvious, which is why I felt it didn't really make too much sense.

Spoiler

I thought your character and Kerghan AGREED to kill EVERYTHING, so why is it that all of the sudden you need to defend yourself, why is it that he "turns on you"? It makes sense for him to try and kill you, but it doesn't make sense to fight back in the first place.

That's a good point. I guess the player character's sense of self-preservation won out? I got nothing really.

 

[Yureina]

I remember you could become the dark lord again in KOTOR. That was an evil path. Also... there's Fallout New Vegas, which lets you side with basically anybody.

 

[Zen Toombs]

Because Shepard is a good person at heart, even if he likes to express it in unusual ways...

Toombs approves +5

OT: I actually like for the Dark Side[sup]TM[/sup] to be an option in games where the choice is given. However, I understand not actually being able to make that decision if there is a specific story being told.

 

[KiloFox]

Disgaea you're the anti-hero... well... except for 2 and MAYBE 4... i havn't played 4 so IDK... but you spend the entire game being your evil self... but see... evil is all reletive.. the "Evil" side... always does it for their own reasons to try and make things better... well... except for Disgaea 1's Laharl... he's just a brat and a prick

Spoiler: Spoilers

until he sacrifices himself to save the angel Flonne... unless you choose the "bad end" and actually kill the seriph...

and in Disgaea 3 while you're still evil and kinda a tyrant, the "big bad" is actually a hero-turned-villian and is quite despicable... so it's really "evil-Vs-Evil" and while you're still technically evil, you're doing it for all the right reasons... it's complicated... (and once you beat Aurum you leave him alive for gruesome experimentation... evil enough for ya?

 

[Soviet Steve]

In Saints Row 2 and 3 you're obligated to be a card-board cut-out scumbag throughout the whole game.

 

[Olly Dinkle]

See I love playing as an evil character, its so much more interesting, but most games are still made to the story of the hero. Even if there is an option to be evil it usually results in an inferior story or experience. Why cant we have more games that focus on the story of the villain?

 

[Strain42]

When I first played Pokemon back in 1998 and got to the end of Nugget Bridge and they asked if I'd be interested in joining Team Rocket

...boy you better believe how badly I wanted to.