Why are MOST PC gamers full of so much hatred towards Consoles?

[Melancholy_Ocelot]

I don't understand, don't most people play games on both? I know I do. I will say one thing, I enjoy shooters on console games more because you can't really use zomg aimbots, wallhax, etc on a console. At least you know no one is cheating.

That being said, moddable games are WAY better on PC (I'm looking at you Oblivion). And if Warcraft 3 were a console game no one would've played it after the first 2 years (I still play DotA on it).

Moddability... I'm still playing games from 2001-5.
It's like free DLC

 

[Krylock]

so i brought the intelligent discussion here.

But you started off with a slur against PC users. How do you think they'd react to that?

How about "Why are people so defensive about their own choice of machine?"

Because that's going to be a discussion, what you've created here is an argument.

If you consider that a "slur" or any form of offensive comment, then you must be very easily offended.

I did generalize with my title, but from MOST PC gamers i have came across on the internet (which is thousands) all had something bad to say about the console, and how high and mighty their $2500 PC rig is.

 

[GWarface]

Ive been a PC gamer all my life.. I have a PS1 but i only played i rarely...

The reason im against/dont like consoles is that i like to have 1 platform where i can do everything i want, instead of switching between a console for games and PC for internetz, music, movies, chatting, being on this site, etc etc...

I agree some game genres are better on a console, as in platform games, driving games, fighting games... But since i dont really have an interest in games like that, it doesnt really matter to me..
FPS's on consoles is a BIG no-no for me.. If a game needs auto-aim because it lacks proper controls i just dont see a point in playing it, fun as it might be..

Plus most of the annoying 12 year old dicktits with microphones is playing on consoles, and i like to stay far away from them...

 

[Super Toast]

Consoles have simply made gaming more accessible and mainstream.

Translation: Increased the amount of money going into developers and publishers pockets, therefore increasing the quality of games with each passing year.

Fixed for you. You can thank me later.

 

[Krylock]

Plus most of the annoying 12 year old dicktits with microphones is playing on consoles, and i like to stay far away from them...

Not many younger kids play Xbox Live or PSN as most people would think.

This reminds me of the whole "Only loud obnoxious brats play CoD!". That is a false generalization. You do get the occasional annoying little kid, but that is VERY easily fixed by a Mute button.

 

[ntw3001]

The same reason Atheists hate Christians, Christians hate gays, gays hate America and so forth: Barely any actually care, but only the ones who do have any interest in crying about it.

 

[JeanLuc761]

Man, if I had a nickel for every time I saw this thread on the internet...

There are a variety of reasons as to why your assertion is completely false, but the biggest one is your generalizing an entire community based on the few elitists that exist. It would be like me saying that all console gamers are idiot 12 year olds based on the few matches I play with them.

 

[Paragon Fury]

It because PC gamers had for the longest time built themselves up in a nice little, secure bubble where they actually were superior in most ways to any current-day console. Right around the time of N64 - PS1 Era, they sensed a looming threat to their preferred gaming system. They still had most points up on consoles, but they saw a change coming.

And then Halo 2 and the advent of Xbox Live happened. And the 2 of the 4 biggest advantages, shooters and multiplayer, suddenly got shotgunned by a man in green armor, and PC gaming started its meltdown.

It only went downhill from there; it became (and still is becoming) increasingly more profitable to develop for consoles than for PCs. And for a while it was really to get all sorts of crazy ideas for games green-lit on consoles, while PC gamers remained rather staunch in what they wanted.

And then another key element of PC gaming's reign got taken away from them; great stories. When things like Jade Empire, Oblivion, etc. started showing up on consoles, something that traditionally been the realm of PC gaming was again lost to consoles.

And now, the final thing which PC gamers hold desperately to is becoming less and less relevant, and thats scary for them. Their technological superiority has long been the cornerstone to their arguments, but now that gap is shrinking, and they are faced with a gaming world where not many people really give fuck that their PC rigs can run Crysis 2 with 8x Anti-Aliasing at max settings at 60FPS.

While PC gaming still has the RTS and MMO market on lockdown, I wouldn't hold my breath for them for long; you know that some ambitious developer out there is looking to make them a big hit out on consoles too, in order to lap up some of that delicious, recurring MMO and RTS money.

And then you combine all this with PC gaming's general "Fuck all y'all" attitude towards everyone, even people who are nice to them, the gaming community as a whole cares less and less about them. Which makes the PC community angrier, which makes people like them less, and on and on.

Of course, the irony is that PC gamers really only have themselves to blame; gamers and devs. wasted almost no time in setting up an "Us vs. Them" situation with PCs and consoles, and PC gamers did almost nothing to stop it, since console gamers really didn't have that kind of influence back then.

 

[Riddle78]

PC gamers that get a hate-on about console gamers are a minority. An extremely vocal minority,but a minority nonetheless.

I beleieve that most PC gamers are like myself; we own a PC/Mac,and also at least one console. We play on these platforms,but are invariably drawn back to the computer platform because it has a wider variety of games (and even an exclusive genre,RTS.) and you're free to mod most games. Also,if you own a PC,you can easily,and cheaply,modify the system to improve performance.

Consoles,although they have weaker systems,are smaller,and cheaper,and more accessible than a full blown computer.

 

[Danceofmasks]

In fact, most games actually give the user a option to turn off auto-aim controls. I have done this before, and i will say without auto-aim in such games as Halo, playing the game is near impossible.

That's because ... it's on a console.

If an FPS presumes to include aim assistance on the PC, I'll take it as a personal insult ... Borderlands, for example.

 

[Krylock]

Congratulations, you started the escapist's one millionth "why the hate"thread. you won a week offline and my hatred* .

*no permission to ask about its origin granted.

Congratulations, you contributed nothing to the thread!

I am sure most of the past threads have just been angry console OR PC gamers trying to start a flame war.

I posted a well thought of opinion. I checked it over just to make sure it wouldn't start a flame war.

The fate of that happening is left to the members of this forum.

 

[Splitter]

12 year olds on xbox live.

 

[Wrds]

so i brought the intelligent discussion here.

But you started off with a slur against PC users. How do you think they'd react to that?

How about "Why are people so defensive about their own choice of machine?"

Because that's going to be a discussion, what you've created here is an argument.

If you consider that a "slur" or any form of offensive comment, then you must be very easily offended.

I did generalize with my title, but from MOST PC gamers i have came across on the internet (which is thousands) all had something bad to say about the console, and how high and mighty their $2500 PC rig is.

Point being you chose a title that would guarantee replies from PC users. You also never made it clear that your observation was of other gaming communities, which is what you implied in a later post.
I understand where you're coming from, but its a subject that you shouldn't waste your deductive reasoning skills on.

 

[Danceofmasks]

I posted a well thought of opinion. I checked it over just to make sure it wouldn't start a flame war.

You may want to revise your thread title.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

If you consider that a "slur" or any form of offensive comment, then you must be very easily offended.

Why is "group X" full of hatred of "group Y"? I think you've just covered sexism, racism etc. It's not about how offended I am, it's how offensive you are unknowingly being. If this thread was titled "Why do all Muslims hate Americans?" then do you think it would have been as crass?

I did generalize with my title, but from MOST PC gamers i have came across on the internet (which is thousands) all had something bad to say about the console, and how high and mighty their $2500 PC rig is.

Ok. Look at what you've just said.
MOST of the GAMERS I have come across (which is THOUSANDS) ALL had SOMETHING BAD to say about THE CONSOLE, and how HIGH and MIGHTY THEIR $2500 PC rig is.

All of the capitalised words (including the price) are generalisations. You've come into this discussion with the appearance of an axe to grind, and if you're starting with that attitude, it's no wonder if you get a lot of negative feedback.

If you walk into a room and say "Why do all you slutty women not want me?", then do you think you're gonna get a sensible answer? Even if you're in the nicest place on Earth?

Even if most of the women you have met have been?

You see no factual reason for the debate, but you then state "Specs vs Specs". Can I humbly suggest that you come back to this debate with at least an air of asking questions first and alienating later?

Edit: Oh..

Most console gamers would disagree with your statement. But not I. I choose to be reasonable instead of making my self look like an ass.

So most console gamers make themselves look like an ass, do they? You're really not winning any friends.

 

[Krylock]

Simply put: consoles have caused games to be dumbed down over the generations. If I wanted to do nothing but spend twenty hours pulling a trigger to cause loud noises, I'd go to a gun range. What a concept, eh? PC gamers discovered the greatness of FPS games in the nineties. We were ready to move on ten years ago. But unfortunately, soccer moms, frat boys, and children under ten all decided to pick that time to get into gaming and ruin it for the rest of us.

But truthfully, we also just plain enjoy watching console gamers squirm when they realize the limitations of their chosen platform. Always a riot.

Most console gamers would disagree with your statement. But not I. I choose to be reasonable instead of making my self look like an ass.

Most PC gamers hate Console FPS's because they think it takes no skill because of Auto-aim, etc. But it's actually more complex than it seems, and it is actually skillful in many ways. Console gamers notice this because they are regulars to console gaming. Most PC gamers don't because they are not regulars to console gaming. It works vice verse and so on and so forth.

The PC gamers that only play on the PC, can't really make comparison and judgement calls on whats better. All they see is the FPS that they play with a mouse and keyboard, which requires somewhat skill, but they don't see the Console side from a clear point of view.

Console FPS's are not just "Hold down trigger and spray bullets BOOM HEADSHOT i am leet". Even with auto-aim most FPS's take skill. Not any regular average joe can just pick up a controller and become pro, because they have aim assist. It takes good reflexes, situational awareness, somewhat decent aiming skills, and etc and so on.

In fact, most games actually give the user a option to turn off auto-aim controls. I have done this before, and i will say without auto-aim in such games as Halo, playing the game is near impossible.

Example: Try to kill one of your team mates in Halo. There is no auto aim effect, and it is extremely hard to center your bullets at your team mate. I'm not sure how the aiming is for FPS's on PC's because i only play RTS's and MMOs on the PC. But i can definitely vouch for most console Fps.

Why the fuck does CoD #3,689 keep selling so well on consoles? Because of non-core gamers, that's why.

You're forgetting that CoD also sells well on the PC. Is that because of non-core gamers on the PC?

Just because someone happens to be a console gamer; does not put them into the category of casual, non-core, hard-core, gamer. Your actions no matter the platform, sets you into that category. Each platform has all cores.

 

[thekindofcornyoueat]

I'm a PC gamer, and I don't like console games. But what I mean by that isn't "CONSOLES ARE SHIT". I know console games can be just as fun, I just prefer some of the computer's traits like the controls and that kind of stuff. Also, nowadays, the console developers are completely ripping people off by releasing games on PC one year after their console release or not at all, and that just makes me not want to support them anymore.

 

[Krylock]

If you consider that a "slur" or any form of offensive comment, then you must be very easily offended.

Why is "group X" full of hatred of "group Y"? I think you've just covered sexism, racism etc. It's not about how offended I am, it's how offensive you are unknowingly being. If this thread was titled "Why do all Muslims hate Americans?" then do you think it would have been as crass?

I did generalize with my title, but from MOST PC gamers i have came across on the internet (which is thousands) all had something bad to say about the console, and how high and mighty their $2500 PC rig is.

Ok. Look at what you've just said.
MOST of the GAMERS I have come across (which is THOUSANDS) ALL had SOMETHING BAD to say about THE CONSOLE, and how HIGH and MIGHTY THEIR $2500 PC rig is.

All of the capitalised words (including the price) are generalisations. You've come into this discussion with the appearance of an axe to grind, and if you're starting with that attitude, it's no wonder if you get a lot of negative feedback.

If you walk into a room and say "Why do all you slutty women not want me?", then do you think you're gonna get a sensible answer? Even if you're in the nicest place on Earth?

Even if most of the women you have met have been?

You see no factual reason for the debate, but you then state "Specs vs Specs". Can I humbly suggest that you come back to this debate with at least an air of asking questions first and alienating later?

That post makes about no sense.

All i see is someone who took my OP not too lightly, and is now lashing out against me.

But thanks for proving my point while you're here, good sir.