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TheSolemnHypnotic

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Communist partisan said:
I prefer both genders, thank you very much...

And we can't choose what we are attracted too, if you would try forcing me to be attracted to the other gender (if I was strait) I would set you on fire.

There's nothing to even discuss here, if somebody isn't attracted to both genders WHO GIVES A SINGLE FUCK!? I don't think I've seen a more stupid thread that is actually trying to be logical and have a important subject.
Okay. Thanks for stopping by! :)
 

Stasisesque

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If you doubt that the human mind is capable of such feats, I'm afraid I feel no interest in spending my time trying to make some sort of point by explaining the dynamics to you or anybody else. Trust what you will, but I've spent the last several years educating myself on the subject so that I may become an authority in such a regard, as it's highly relevant to my career.
Let me guess, the career in question is Hypnotherapy?
 

SpireOfFire

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im hetero. i dont understand how or if anyone can choose their orientation. you are what you are. its like choosing your skin color.
 

Nimcha

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TheEndlessSleep said:
Heartshield said:
Yeah, it sounds like what you have done is merely to take a vow of abstinance, rather than ceasing to be attracted to things.

Unless you had some kind of operation, you can't simply turn of your sex drive.
Don't tell me what I am and what I'm not. I took no vow of abstinence, I literally changed my biological structure with a series of powerful neurological commands that were given to the rest of my biology over an extensive period of time.
Hey dude, you might've been asexual all along. Ever thought of that?
 

seanmcloughlin7

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I am straight. I don't think its all that complicated. When I see a girl naked I have an attraction. If I see a guy, I see the same as what I have or what I am. Its my basic instinct to be attracted to the opposite sex
 

Midnight Llamaman

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Heartshield said:
TheEndlessSleep said:
Heartshield said:
Yeah, it sounds like what you have done is merely to take a vow of abstinance, rather than ceasing to be attracted to things.

Unless you had some kind of operation, you can't simply turn of your sex drive.
Don't tell me what I am and what I'm not. I took no vow of abstinence, I literally changed my biological structure with a series of powerful neurological commands that were given to the rest of my biology over an extensive period of time.

No operation was done, and I assure you that I am able and did "turn off" my sex drive.

I will feel sexual attraction to a specific person, regardless of gender, so long as that person feels identical towards me. This is not to be confused with bisexual, as I have no attraction whatsoever to any gender. I'm in a relationship, and that's the only person I have any semblance of sexual attraction to, and this person is also asexual, so it works out well.

If you're truly unaware that a person can have virtually no sex drive, if none whatsoever, then I ask that you please do some research on asexuality.

If you doubt that the human mind is capable of such feats, I'm afraid I feel no interest in spending my time trying to make some sort of point by explaining the dynamics to you or anybody else. Trust what you will, but I've spent the last several years educating myself on the subject so that I may become an authority in such a regard, as it's highly relevant to my career.
So you do have (some) sexual attraction to someone (and admit you can feel sexual attraction in general depending on circumstance), but you say you're completely asexual?

Honestly I'm gonna have to agree with TheEndlessSleep and suggest you've just taken a vow of celibacy. You can't change your "biological make up" by thinking about it. That's not how biology works, I can't use will power to fix any biological deficiencies I may have - that's simply not how things work.

People can grow in to, or out of something like lactose intolerance but you can't sit there and think real hard to get rid of the condition. You can control how you respond to things and their effects; to an extent, but you can't simply magic things away.

It's like hypnosis or precognitive suggestion, you can condition a response but you can't change your biology, certainly not something like eye colour - that's hard coded in genetics. You can't wake up and decide to have green eyes if you have blue eyes, blonde hair if you have auburn hair or to be gay if you're straight. You can sleep with (or not sleep with) whoever you want but deciding not to have sex with anyone doesn't make you asexual. It makes you abstinent.
 

Artina89

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I am a heterosexual, I don't know why I like men, I just do, women just don't do anything for me. You can't just turn attraction on and off like a switch. Sometimes what seems like the logical thing (as in, you find that bisexuality is more logical) isn't the right answer, as the human condition doesn't often follow logic. Feel free to disagree with me, but that is what I think.
 

OldKingClancy

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I'm not an expert on relationship (having never been in one myself) but I am hetero. I can understand homosexuals but for me personally I have never found a man sexually attractive.

Or in a more joking way; Kate Upton isn't a man, therefore I am not gay.
 

Rensenhito

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I don't really think there is a "why" to it. Sexuality is largely an illogical thing. People can't control their attractions. In fact, the majority of people find their attractions controlling them. So, to summarize, I am what I am because I am. ^_^
 

Heartshield

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TheEndlessSleep said:
Heartshield said:
I took no vow of abstinence, I literally changed my biological structure with a series of powerful neurological commands that were given to the rest of my biology over an extensive period of time.
It's perfectly possible to be asexual. (Nothing against them)

It is not possible to change your sexuality merely by thinking hard about it... if i sit here and tell myself that I am going to become gay, I cannot see how it could possibly make me crave penis.

Sexuality can indeed shift over time, but through natural means, rather than manual ones.
Once again, don't tell me what I'm not. Simply because you're limited to that level of thinking doesn't mean I am. I changed myself before I even understood the power that the brain has on a person's biology. To me, it was the most simple decision. It took time, and it took persistence, but it works.

You won't ever get anything by WANTING it. You can WANT a million dollars, but that doesn't mean it'll appear in your bank account. You absolutely MUST believe in something if you want to fulfill it. This doesn't mean that if you BELIEVE a million dollars will appear in your bank account, that it will as if by magic, but the beginning of all changes that take place will come internally, and you'll find in absolutely demanding such a desire to be fact that you'll adapt the necessary mindset in order to achieve your goals of having a million dollars in your bank account.

For me, everything was internal. Money is external, but my sexuality is internal, and so I wanted it to change, so internally it changed. It really is that simple.

This will be my last post in this tread, as any more time spent here elaborating will clearly be wasted.

You know yourself, and I know myself. You know me from over a screen and on a couple of forum posts, and from this you deem yourself fit to tell me what I'm capable of?

I caused a shift in my very biology through a deep passion for something, and that passion was spawned from the contempt of the nature the people around me were exhibiting. You can accept that, or you can't. Just because you say it's not possible, or that "natural means" are the only way it could happen, doesn't make you correct by default.

You are correct in YOUR experiences, as your experience and your truest most deep opinion of the subject is obviously what you stated. In the greater spectrum of things, we both know nothing, and that's how things will always be. So instead, we have our experiences, and our opinions, and that's perfectly okay.

Just remember that I'm sharing with you my EXPERIENCE, combined with my EDUCATION, to give you my OPINION, and because I regard that opinion so highly, I address it as fact, since it has been true in my experience.

As for the other question... No, my career is not in hypnotherapy.

That's all.
 

Da Orky Man

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tomme69 said:
Dertex said:
It's in our DNA, it isn't a choice, it's how we're 'programmed'
That is wrong. If that were true homosexuality would be genetic disorder , which it isn't.
Its a physiological thing.
If it's physiological, then it should be easy enough to change. But it isn't. And most of your physiological biases come from genetic predisposition.
Originally, eyes were a genetic disorder. But they worked. Everything about you could be counted as a disorder, except it isn't.
 

Daverson

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TheSolemnHypnotic said:
Daverson said:
Hup! Soapbox time! Been saving this little musing for a while, think it's about time it got shared.

The fanatics need to be believe that sexuality is a choice. Their holy book tells them homosexuality is a sin, so for them, it has to be a choice. Saying someone can be born a sinner goes against the whole "caring god" thing.

It's kind of sad, when you think about it, ignoring the obvious truth to address blatant inconsistencies in fairy tales, but what can you do, really?
I'm sorry, but that was really random. Are you referring to me?
More aimed at trying to rationalise why people would consider something like this to be a choice, but you did ask why people are heterosexual or homosexual. In my mind, that's akin to asking why someone's male or female! D=

(Well, maybe not exactly like that, but very similar)
 

Sporky111

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I'd like to say that if I loved someone it wouldn't matter what gender they are, but sex is a very important part of a relationship. Yeah, there are some girls I might be interested in, but as a gay man I find myself repulsed at the thought of touching a vagina.