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spartan231490

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NinjaCat said:
Firoth said:
If Batman is such a great super hero, then why has he been fighting the same villains since the 70's? (or whenever 'Batman' started [not a comic book knowy person])
Well, I can think of two reasons. For one thing, it's not his place to decide who lives and dies. The second is that if he killed them then he would be no better than the very villains he wanted behind bars.


Blue_vision said:
Well said my friend.
Read sword of truth, It's a great series and i think you would enjoy it. that aside, Batman isn't a super-hero, he's a vigilanty with a really big budget, not personally a huge fan. he does good work, but i prefer spidey.
 

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Tony Stark is like Batman....but more humanly flawed (well...depending on the era).

I appreciate human flaws, rather than these perfect individuals who can "do no wrong".
It's in overcoming these limitations that we grow as people, and that's the one thing Batman doesn't really have (though Batman Begins tried to convince me that he did...and I didn't buy it).

So...sorry Bruce Wayne. You're awesome to be sure, but Tony Stark is just a cut above you in my book.
 

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Why was Batman emo in The Dark Knight then? The movie made him ineffectual and a second-class character in his own film. I agree with all of the OP's points on why Batman is great, but I don't think the films have captured this at all, especially The Dark Knight. I hate the fact that the movie gets so much praise, and yet insults fans by showing Batman as a weak cry baby.

Also, I'm so glad Batman was in the movie to stop both ships from exploding and we didn't have to rely on some really contrived social commentary to save the day -- Oh wait...
 

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spartan231490 said:
NinjaCat said:
Firoth said:
If Batman is such a great super hero, then why has he been fighting the same villains since the 70's? (or whenever 'Batman' started [not a comic book knowy person])
Well, I can think of two reasons. For one thing, it's not his place to decide who lives and dies. The second is that if he killed them then he would be no better than the very villains he wanted behind bars.


Blue_vision said:
Well said my friend.
Read sword of truth, It's a great series and i think you would enjoy it. that aside, Batman isn't a super-hero, he's a vigilanty with a really big budget, not personally a huge fan. he does good work, but i prefer spidey.
I might look into that series :). Also, the Web-head is pretty cool but I prefer Batman. Spiderman is my favorite Marvel character though.
 

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Firoth said:
If Batman is such a great super hero, then why has he been fighting the same villains since the 70's? (or whenever 'Batman' started [not a comic book knowy person])
If you're not going to at least add something informed, why post? Not to be sarky about it, but if you're not too well up on the comics, which is perfectly reasonable, why not talk about what you think of the varous superheroe movies?

Batman had a slew of new villains introduced in the 1980s (Killer Croc being one) and early 1990s (Bane), and I'm not even going to go over the changes and retcons and additions that we've seen over the past few years.

Batman has the best, most interesting rogues gallery of any other comic book character.
 

p3t3r

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well Rorschach is the most bad ass super hero. ever. but batman is pretty cool
 

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titaniumChampion said:
Why was Batman emo in The Dark Knight then? The movie made him ineffectual and a second-class character in his own film. I agree with all of the OP's points on why Batman is great, but I don't think the films have captured this at all, especially The Dark Knight. I hate the fact that the movie gets so much praise, and yet insults fans by showing Batman as a weak cry baby.

Also, I'm so glad Batman was in the movie to stop both ships from exploding and we didn't have to rely on some really contrived social commentary to save the day -- Oh wait...
I do prefer the comic's Batman and some of the animated Batman's as opposed to the new movies. Oh also the Adam West Batman, he was just awesome.

ctalons said:
Sorry, but if your arch enemy is a clown, you are not the best.
He's an evil, twisted clown though. Those are generally pretty hard to deal with.

Atmos Duality said:
Tony Stark is like Batman....but more humanly flawed (well...depending on the era).

I appreciate human flaws, rather than these perfect individuals who can "do no wrong".
It's in overcoming these limitations that we grow as people, and that's the one thing Batman doesn't really have (though Batman Begins tried to convince me that he did...and I didn't buy it).

So...sorry Bruce Wayne. You're awesome to be sure, but Tony Stark is just a cut above you in my book.
Batman does make flaws every once in a while. Generally though, he plans things out pretty darn well.
Boba Frag said:
Firoth said:
If Batman is such a great super hero, then why has he been fighting the same villains since the 70's? (or whenever 'Batman' started [not a comic book knowy person])
If you're not going to at least add something informed, why post? Not to be sarky about it, but if you're not too well up on the comics, which is perfectly reasonable, why not talk about what you think of the varous superheroe movies?

Batman had a slew of new villains introduced in the 1980s (Killer Croc being one) and early 1990s (Bane), and I'm not even going to go over the changes and retcons and additions that we've seen over the past few years.

Batman has the best, most interesting rogues gallery of any other comic book character.
True, though a lot of them could be considered crazy. They still are quite intriguing. Actually, their craziness probably is the reason I find them interesting.
 

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Batman's the best in the DC line-up, but it's hard to compare across genres and comic-universes. If you're going for pure 'awesome' factor, it's hard to compare an ongoing runs-forever comic against characters from limited series that have fixed time-frames and hence get to run a full character arc. To pick one that everybody knows as an example, say, Rorschach, where he initially comes across as completely nuts - he's what Senator McCarthy of the McCarthyism era would be if he was a crime-fighter. Then it goes on and he becomes even less likeable and even pathetic (when it's revealed that the father he constantly glorifies was in reality a violent alcoholic who abandoned him as a kid)...but slowly the reader gets to see where he's coming from, until at the end (or close enough, when he gets killed) he's the only character that's anywhere close to being morally 'pure'.

Batman can't have that kind of character arc because he doesn't get to have a proper 'beginning, middle and end' to his story. Even with Bruce Wayne currently dead (well, zapped by Darkseid back to the stone age) and Dick Grayson having taken over, the elements of the character stay constant (he's still an orphan avenging his parents' death - ok, he's a lot better adjusted than Wayne's Batman, but with Wayne's son as the bitter 'father-just-died' new Robin the overall mood is still similar).
 

LittleChone

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He's a rich orphan who punches clowns in a bat suit. He doesn't need powers to be more awesome then that.
 

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Azrael the Cat said:
Batman's the best in the DC line-up, but it's hard to compare across genres and comic-universes. If you're going for pure 'awesome' factor, it's hard to compare an ongoing runs-forever comic against characters from limited series that have fixed time-frames and hence get to run a full character arc. To pick one that everybody knows as an example, say, Rorschach, where he initially comes across as completely nuts - he's what Senator McCarthy of the McCarthyism era would be if he was a crime-fighter. Then it goes on and he becomes even less likeable and even pathetic (when it's revealed that the father he constantly glorifies was in reality a violent alcoholic who abandoned him as a kid)...but slowly the reader gets to see where he's coming from, until at the end (or close enough, when he gets killed) he's the only character that's anywhere close to being morally 'pure'.

Batman can't have that kind of character arc because he doesn't get to have a proper 'beginning, middle and end' to his story. Even with Bruce Wayne currently dead (well, zapped by Darkseid back to the stone age) and Dick Grayson having taken over, the elements of the character stay constant (he's still an orphan avenging his parents' death - ok, he's a lot better adjusted than Wayne's Batman, but with Wayne's son as the bitter 'father-just-died' new Robin the overall mood is still similar).
I can see where you're coming from. The Batman series just kind of goes on. The creators of it probably think that since they have a good formula going, there's no reason to change it very much.

LittleChone said:
He's a rich orphan who punches clowns in a bat suit. He doesn't need powers to be more awesome then that.
True.
 

KingGolem

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You know, you can't argue that Batman is pretty awesome. But the thing is, I'm sick and damn tired of seeing him. He's been around for about seventy years now, and that is, in fact, enough Batman to last a lifetime. I'd like to see some attention given to some other characters. I believe Bob made a list on this website not long ago; I'd be more than happy to see a Booster Gold film. That doesn't mean that Batman has to go away, it's just that he's had more than his share of the spotlight and he's not the only interesting character in all the DC universe.
 

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I'm afraid you chose the wrong billionaire hero.

The correct answer is Tony Stark, also know as Iron Man.

I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
 

Chronarch

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KingGolem said:
You know, you can't argue that Batman is pretty awesome. But the thing is, I'm sick and damn tired of seeing him. He's been around for about seventy years now, and that is, in fact, enough Batman to last a lifetime. I'd like to see some attention given to some other characters. I believe Bob made a list on this website not long ago; I'd be more than happy to see a Booster Gold film. That doesn't mean that Batman has to go away, it's just that he's had more than his share of the spotlight and he's not the only interesting character in all the DC universe.
Booster Gold is pretty nifty, although a lot of people like Batman. The odds of Batman even sharing the spotlight with another character (besides the ones that are already there like Superman) are pretty slim.

Sneaky-Pie said:
I'm afraid you chose the wrong billionaire hero.

The correct answer is Tony Stark, also know as Iron Man.

I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
No, I'm pretty sure I picked the one I liked better based on my opinions so it's all good :D.
 

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AjimboB said:
I'm pretty sure we all know that Batman is awesome. You're preaching to the converted friend.
this. and batman has some of the best, if not the best graphic novels ever written.
 

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Batman. One of the few DC superheroes that I actually like. The other being Blue Beetle and the Green Lantern Corps.
 

bak00777

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no Batman is not the best superhero, atleast not anymore. He might have been the best decades ago, i am rly feeling Ironman or Wolverine as the best.
 

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Zeromaeus said:
Batman. One of the few DC superheroes that I actually like. The other being Blue Beetle and the Green Lantern Corps.
The Green Lanterns are pretty cool.

bak00777 said:
no Batman is not the best superhero, atleast not anymore. He might have been the best decades ago, i am rly feeling Ironman or Wolverine as the best.
Batman's adventures were better a long while back in my opinion. Although, Batman is pretty cool regardless though. Ironman and Wolverine are pretty cool too. Especially Ironman, he's probably my second or third favorite Marvel character.
 

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Boba Frag said:
Firoth said:
If Batman is such a great super hero, then why has he been fighting the same villains since the 70's? (or whenever 'Batman' started [not a comic book knowy person])
If you're not going to at least add something informed, why post? Not to be sarky about it, but if you're not too well up on the comics, which is perfectly reasonable, why not talk about what you think of the varous superheroe movies?
Seemed like a legitimate question to me. I know enough about him to know he's been around for a while and has had the same set of villains since the days of Adam West, at the least.