That was pretty epic. Batman is awesome enough to avoid the omega beam.Hayate_GT said:yea and theres also this...i love this...it solidifies that even without powers he's still better than most everyone in the DC Universe...
That is an excellent point. Superman starts to get boring after a while whereas Batman doesn't. Also, while Batman isn't a weakling by far, it's still good to know that he is only human.sketch_zeppelin said:Batman works for one simple reason:
A hero is only as intresting as his weakness.
sure its cool to see superman win without trying once or twice, but eventually you get bored of that. Batman can be killed by anything, but the fact that he manages to triumph makes him all the more awsome. its far more entertaining to watch a weakling win against overwhealming odds then it is an invincible man with god like powers. If you don't belive me then pay attention to how many stories are about an underdog coming out on top.
I agree with this 100%, Superheroes do not need powers. Case in point Hawkeye of the Avengers, people can't cop out and call him a vigilante, because almost the complete majority of the time he's in a US government and UN approved team. He has no powers but still rumbles with the big boys and that makes him super in my book. Also Captain America is another example but his abilities/origin can be debated, but he's meant to be peak-human, not super.s0nic_al said:I never understood the "Not a Superhero" Arguement. Since when did "Super" necessarily mean "Superpowered?"
Dictionary.com (numbers slightly revised)
?adjective
1.of the highest degree, power, etc.
2.of an extreme or excessive degree.
3.Informal . very good; first-rate; excellent.
4.(of measurement) superficial.
Hero
1.a man of distinguished courage or ability, admired for his brave deeds and noble qualities.
2.a person who, in the opinion of others, has heroic qualities or has performed a heroic act and is regarded as a model or ideal: He was a local hero when he saved the drowning child.
I'd say Batman fits for both Super and Hero. Thus qualifying him as a superhero.
Though Batman has, on more that one occasion, laced the shit out of superman. He even comes within an inch of killing Superman at one point, though he stops before he finishes him. He does it to prove the point that if I had to... He could.spiritbx said:i dont think the problem here is batman, batman is an awesome superhero, if you consider the fact that hes in a somewhat realistic world, but compared to other superheroes hed get his ass kicked in a sec "superman lets figh..... heat vision TO THE FACE".
I don't know if the public in the DC universe know he's powerless. They certainly know he's on a super-team with others and does in fact exist, but I think this would lend to the public assuming he must have powers to compete with the likes of Superman.znix said:Batman is kinda lame tbh. He always faces off against several foes, but not ONCE have they shot him in the face. Hey, it doesn't take a marksman, just one dude with a sawed off shotgun.
If I were a crime boss in Gotham, I'd equip all my guys with sawed off shotguns and tell them to aim for Batman's face. That'd show that smug bastard.
Plus, he may have nice armor, but even Batman couldn't repel a 50 caliber sniper round straight in the chest. It'd likely rip off his arm or leg as well, if not crush the flesh and bones inside completely.
Basically, Batman is a tosser (that is, crazy lamer) who has been lucky enough to be blessed with incredibly stupid foes who don't know how to operate high powered rifles or simple armaments and they all suck at aiming.
It's just kinda meh. Every comic or movie is the same. Why even bother with the fancy armor and junk when he's always invulnerable, unless it somehow fits the plot that he miraculously gets poisoned or whatever?
On top of that, it's getting really old to see criminals scared of him. What's there to be scared about? He's friggin' Batman, a guy in a costume with tech gadgets. Every single other DC hero knows this, as well as the public at large. Yet, the criminals have not caught on to this and still treat him as if he's some kind of shadowy monster come real. Bah!
Booooooring!
Well said. Make Mine Marvel.Ironic Pirate said:Best DC hero maybe. They tend to be kind of dull.