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Zipa

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Foxtrot Boom said:
-Simple 'drop in, drop out' system.
-Portable for those trips to your girlfriend's house *clears throat*.
-Less chance of technical difficulties due to a standardised set of hardware.
-Larger player base for certain games.
-Less expensive and time consuming than building a PC from scratch. Less frustration, especially for those who REALLY don't feel like going through the details.
-(At the moment) wider developer support, especially for certain games that should be on PC but aren't. Also, dedicated patching from some developers *cough Black Ops v1.07 not on PC yet*.
-The ability to sell games that you no longer need (at most stores anyway).
-A standardised social network (can be favourable or unfavourable depending on your perspective)

That said, I own a strong PC and am proud of it. It's not flawless, but I love it for what it is. I've yet to buy a current-gen console and don't think I'll end up getting one, the way things are going. My only console is a PS1, with and unresponsive X button. :(
FYI 1.07 for black ops was out on the 25th of March on PC.
 

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It appears that I forgot to nullify 2 more points in my previous post, so I will amend that now. I will also be restating some points that people seem to not understand (Half these repeated points were posted on the same page as mine, or 1 page in front. People can take some time to read current arguments before posting them again).

1. PC is hard to build. Not necessarily. I could say a console is hard to install, what with all the cables to plug in, but that is because I am less experienced with consoles. PCs are, if you either:
a) Checked that the pieces are compatible online first (A hassle, yes, but not too hard)
b) Know the parts that you need because a friend told you, or you looked up the parts to a gaming rig that you saw in a shop (Pretty easy)
pretty easy to build. Its basically: Motherboard goes in Chassis, RAM goes in RAM slot, CPU goes in CPU slot, GPU goes in GPU slot, Hard Drive goes in Hard Drive slot, and these cables connect everything. To use an analogy used earlier, its like playing with Lego, but then you have to plug cables in (Which you do with a console anyway). As for what each of them does, and what is better, you need only look at certain parts of the name. E.g:
4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 677MHz - The only real important thing you need to look at is the 4GB part. Everything else is mostly compatibility, which your local tech-store-person will be more than happy to help you with if you have no friends that can, or don't have 1-3 hours to look on the internet (1-3 hours will cover basically every piece of hardware your getting, if you know haw to search the internet efficiently in general).
Is building a PC harder than plugging in a console? Yes, it is a fair bit harder.Is it hard for a ten year old to learn to build a PC? No. I built my current PC when I was 10 (Maybe 11), and it was pretty simple.

2. Have to keep replacing parts. Who says? I have had my PC for a good 4-5 years now and I have not replaced 1 part. The 'but to keep it top-of-the-line' argument is moot. Why does it need to be top of the line? My mediocre PC can do as good - if not better - then most current gen consoles. If I bought a new computer now (Which I am) I would expect it to last through this generation, and the next generation of consoles without needing an upgrade. There is no need to keep upgrading and upgrading unless:
a) You have more dollars than sense
b) You are obsessed with having everything top-of-the-line

3. Console and PC exclusives. Hopefully the last time this will come up. Both have exclusives. My favourite game at the moment? Starcraft 2. Is it on a console? No. Is it old? No. Is it by an Indie developer? No, it was made by Blizzard Entertainment, who make a number of my favourite games and the closest they've come to releasing something on a console was this years April Fools joke about SC2 moving to Xbox Kinect. Which platform's exclusive games you like is a preference, and does not count as an argument.

4. More Expensive. PCs are not. Even if you don't build your own, you get a superior product for only slightly more than the price of a console. I have seen some 300-500 dollar computers in local catalogues that could probably beat a PS3 or Xbox specs.

5. Couch multiplayer. A preference, albeit one that a lot of people share. My friends and I have around 3-4 'game ready' PCs around each of our houses, and if we wanted we could sit in the same room and play together. We choose not to. We see no point in it. We are not gaining anything, we are still each concentrating on the game and our strategies. We are still talking to each other, we use either the game's built in VOIP system, or use our own VOIP phones (for which computer to computer calls are free [on our plan] before anyone tries to call that one out). The only downside is that we each have different 'break periods' dependent on our individual families schedules. Though it is cheaper on console to have 'couch multiplayer' sessions, as each of our family members uses a PC (and likes having their own), that cost becomes moot for us. The same-couch experience is merely a preference held by a number of people.

The two arguments I can think of for having a console over a PC are, as I have stated before, are:
a) The fact that your 'average joe' finds consoles easier to use than PCs
b) Preference
If anybody thinks there is something I have missed or overlooked, please tell me. Before posting another moot point that has been stated by someone else however, please read at least this post and my previous one, as I believe (and hope) they cover all the arguments posted so far (My previous post is on page 8), and this will hopefully make repeated points less commonly occurring.
Thank You to everyone who bothered reading through the wall of text
 

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fenrizz said:
A few good reasons:

1. It's cheaper and will usually last longer.
2. You get to play in your sofa on a big TV.
3. No need to worry about system requirements.
1. In the long run they work about the same price, but consolse seem cheaper at first due to the base unit cost.

2. I actually do that on my PC anyway, got a very good wireless keyboard and mouse so that I can.

3. Get a good enough PC and you don't need to.

PS. I numbered your point in the quote for easier reference, and I also play both anyway, I have a custom built gaming PC and a PS3.
 

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FYI 1.07 for black ops was out on the 25th of March on PC.
Oh crap, you're right! Thanks for correcting me. Didn't even notice since I thought one of the later updates made friendlies have blue markers on the minimap and we've still got green (not that it's a problem). That said, patching for PC has been a bit behind the times when compared to XBOX360 and PS3 and it's only served to turn many people in the PC crowd off. Radical opinions of the game on Youtube commentary don't really help to strengthen the community either.
However, I can't complain now. We've got the requisite patches and the DLC and I'm still enjoying the game. The dev team's doing what they can and it's no easy task churning out so many patches in several months without completely breaking the core gameplay elements.
 

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Where do console gamers count their $2000 52" TV's? And who pays postage on anything you buy online?
Soooo you don't own a TV? and not everyone has a 52 inch.

And who DOESN'T pay for postage. They charge postage everywhere you shop on-line. Ebay, Amazon, ect.
 

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1. First of all its easier not having to think about the requirements, I don't want to have to keep checking my specs to see if my rig can handle 'teh powerz'! And then you have the likes of Crysis popping out and making my rig cry. Yeah, the sequel may have suffered from severe graphics satuaration to work on the PS3 and 360, but its more accessible and you'll find more people playing online than the PC verison.
That one I agree with; they're much cheaper and more reliable if you're not particularly tech-savvy.

2. Controllers, while you may be able to play with controllers on the PC versions, the console versions just feel more natural, vibration, keyed in controls so you rarely have to change or tweek anything.
It depends on the game. Third Person games are better with Controllers, but I have never seen a First Person or Strategy game that is better with a controller that isn't just because they ported the PC version terribly.
3. I'd rather use my PC space for more relevant things to be frank, gaming takes up too much ram and too much harddrive space and the constant need to upgrade or get more space to play sims 3 3/9 gbs, Crysis another 3/9 gb and god knows what else, just becomes tedious. My systems play games, my PC is used for everything else.
But when you can buy a TB (1,024 GB) hard drive for the cost of a single Console Game, that 9GB isn't very much. Plus, memory and computer parts are getting drastically cheaper every year. Last year a (slower) TB Hard Drive was £60. This of course falls under that Tech Savvy banner that I mentioned earlier, though.

4. Network, playing multiplayer is fun on the PSN and XBL, maybe not in the same league as some PC games, but nevertheless, fun regardless.
Multiplayer is another one I agree with, more or less. Playing Co Op on a console is so much easier than playing it on a PC. On a console you can just do Split Screen Co Op whereas on PC you'd have to get two computers with two steam accounts with the game bought on both and play either over the internet or through the LAN. Playing multiplayer online though is much easier on a server, for me at least.

5. PC games are moving over to PS3 and 360, some exclusivly and others multiplat, no matter how you look at it, other than graphics, there isn't really a compelling reason to pick PC gaming over console gaming, not to mention the console exclusive games as well.
True dat, but it's really the developers' fault. Though I don't really care for the exclusive games, and the non Third Person Shooter games are still playable on PC.

6. Games may be cheaper on the PC, but that's easier to handle than spending on a decent gaming rig to play less games. I personally only buy AAA games and specific ones I'd like, so the costs aren't that much, and even still, many of the games I want and buy are often exclusive to that console, so whether they are more expensive makes little or no difference as they can't be obtained anywhere else cheaper.
The 'PC is expensive' excuse never flew with me, a PC that can play any PC game at moderate settings can cost roughly the same as a PS3, and one that can run anything at high settings can cost as little s £500 (less in America, because Pc parts cost more in Britain due to most of it being imported.).


Conclusion, PC gaming is awesome, and if you can't find a good reason to own a console, stick with the PC for mod options, cheaper pricing and easier controls in certain games. But if you prefer to use your PC for graphics, music, movies, programming, writing etc and more serious things and care about harddrive space and all those other nitty gritty things, a console just makes life easier.
That I also agree with. Though if you're going to be programming, you're probably a PC gamer anyway.
 

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Foxtrot Boom said:
ash-brewster said:
FYI 1.07 for black ops was out on the 25th of March on PC.
Oh crap, you're right! Thanks for correcting me. Didn't even notice since I thought one of the later updates made friendlies have blue markers on the minimap and we've still got green (not that it's a problem). That said, patching for PC has been a bit behind the times when compared to XBOX360 and PS3 and it's only served to turn many people in the PC crowd off. Radical opinions of the game on Youtube commentary don't really help to strengthen the community either.
However, I can't complain now. We've got the requisite patches and the DLC and I'm still enjoying the game. The dev team's doing what they can and it's no easy task churning out so many patches in several months without completely breaking the core gameplay elements.
The sham that is theatre mode for PC is also a very big negative for the PC since it doesn't even work, you can't upload edited clips and stuff to the website like you can xbox and ps3.
 

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How many console players own a PC/Laptop?

How many console players own a PC/Laptop that cost more than $500?

How much did that 47" HD TV cost you?

PC's don't constantly require upgrades. 6 year old gaming PC's do just fine playing console ports designed around 6 year old consoles.

Time to be honest, you play on a console because anything that requires more than "pressing start" is beyond your capacity.
 

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Console exclusives, and I prefer a controller for some types of games. Plus, I suspect many people prefer the ease of console gaming.
 

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Archangel357 said:
Susurrus said:
Genuine question, not an elitist rant.
Yeah, I'll have to call shenanigans on this one. It's like when people invariably preface racism with "I'm no racist, but..."

OT: No hackers, no DRM, no compatibility issues, less hassle, and a boatload of exclusive titles.

I used to be a mostly PC gamer, but with the death of the military flight sim, nowadays my playing time is more skewed towards my console.

Also, don't kid yourself. First, top notch graphics cards by themselves cost three times as much as a 360. Second, nowadays, most people buy laptops, and good luck upgrading those.

In recent years, I've played three games both on the PC and on my PS3 - Fallout 3, Mass Effect 2, and Bioshock. In every instance, I preferred the PS3 experience. My 42" plasma helps.
It's not. I've never seen the point for myself, but then I also don't like some of the games (particularly sports) that seem to have their most normal forum on the consoles. I was interested in getting a variety of reasons, and seeing whether they tallied with the reasons I thought. My points were that I find it cheaper to PC game, that I find the controller more accurate. You can disagree if you like, but that's hardly elitist, is it?
 

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ash-brewster said:
The sham that is theatre mode for PC is also a very big negative for the PC since it doesn't even work, you can't upload edited clips and stuff to the website like you can xbox and ps3.
Yeah, always wondered why I couldn't upload clips, but it's never really been a major concern to me. I'm just happy that the game runs smoothly and the hitreg's been sorted out better than BC2's. At least for me it is. I don't see myself buying another Call of Duty game for some time to come, but I'm enjoying this one while I can.
 

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A console is almost always cheaper and much faster to setup. The downside is that, as you pointed out games tend to cost a bit more and you can't run mods.
 

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Personal preference, and the console-only games are more to my taste.

...It really shouldn't be more complicated than that, should it? Play on a PC and be happy, play on consoles and be happy, who cares what other people think?
 

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the_green_dragon said:
Sabiancym said:
the_green_dragon said:
Fetzenfisch said:
A mediocre trained monkey can change a graphics card. or even build a whole PC i learned it with 10yrs just by reading the manual. Motherboard here, harddrive in that slot, graphics in there, ram in there, put the cables together , Profit.
Great. Now add up the cost.
8800GT on Ebay - $60 http://cgi.ebay.com/EVGA-NVIDIA-GeForce-8800-GT-GDDR3-/320679416962?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4aa9fb9482#ht_500wt_922
E6750 on Ebay - $70 http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-CORE-2-DUO-E6750-2-66GHz-4M-1333-SLA9V-/230570254882?pt=CPUs&hash=item35af0ee222#ht_1234wt_905
MSI G41M on Newegg $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130305
GSkill Rijaw 4GB RAM on newegg $50 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231277
LOGISYS 550W PSU on Newegg $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817170028
LITE-ON Black 18 DVD Drive $17 on Newegg http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106274
Microsoft Keyboard and Mouse on newegg $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.623199
WD 500gb HD on Newegg $26


Total $328....and you could find it cheaper. This rig would play everything at levels the PS3 and Xbox can, probably even better.

So there goes your point.
Wheres the LCD monitor?
I assume thats american dollars, how much is an xbox on ebay in America these days?
What about people who don't have credit cards to buy stuff off ebay or online?
EDIT: U forgot postage on those items
You can't add the monitor into the cost of PC unless you add the cost of a TV into a console.
 

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Sabiancym said:
You can't add the monitor into the cost of PC unless you add the cost of a TV into a console.
Almost everyone has at least one television lying around. TVs are just assumed. On further inspection, I have three TVs. I for one, and nobody I know, actually has a monitor they can just pick up & use. It's reasonable to assume someone won't have it.

Also, include postage in the price.

Oh wait, look. Failegg doesn't ship to outside eagle land. Try again, son.
 

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maiiau said:
Personal preference, and the console-only games are more to my taste.

...It really shouldn't be more complicated than that, should it? Play on a PC and be happy, play on consoles and be happy, who cares what other people think?
No, it shouldn't be more complicated than that.. but for some reason it is to a large number of posters both here and elsewhere. *shrug* I was always under the impression that the most important thing in gaming is the games, but it would seem I'm wrong.
 

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StriderShinryu said:
maiiau said:
Personal preference, and the console-only games are more to my taste.

...It really shouldn't be more complicated than that, should it? Play on a PC and be happy, play on consoles and be happy, who cares what other people think?
No, it shouldn't be more complicated than that.. but for some reason it is to a large number of posters both here and elsewhere. *shrug* I was always under the impression that the most important thing in gaming is the games, but it would seem I'm wrong.
I agree. Gaming should be about the games, not the platform. If a platform offers access to titles I am interested in, then I will use that platform. The use of PCs and the use of consoles are not mutually exclusive endeavors.
 

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Chibz said:
Sabiancym said:
You can't add the monitor into the cost of PC unless you add the cost of a TV into a console.
Almost everyone has at least one television lying around. TVs are just assumed. On further inspection, I have three TVs. I for one, and nobody I know, actually has a monitor they can just pick up & use. It's reasonable to assume someone won't have it.

Also, include postage in the price.

Oh wait, look. Failegg doesn't ship to outside shiterica. Try again, son.
You can hook a PC up to almost all modern TVs...so your point is irrelevant.

Reporting you for insulting America as well.