Why cant you kill kids?

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Nukey

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i don't know why in games you can't kill kids, luckily in warcraft 3 they let you kill kids and when you unlocked incinerate it was hilarious!
 

Zorg Machine

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Grayjack72 said:
It's okay to kill old ladies, but it's not okay to kill kids? I wish I could kill those kids from Little Lamplight.
this on so many levels. sure it would be immoral, sure it would be banned everywhere but why is it that you can sell the only cute kid into slavery where she will toil away, most likely get raped and die an early death but why can't you kill the annoying mayor or the girl who makes horrible knock knock jokes?
I once wasted a mini-nuke and accidentally killed myself and even that didn't harm them.
 

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Remleiz said:
Seriously, how come when any open[ish] world game or such like appears with annoying kids [im looking at you fable 2 and fallout 3] why cant you kill them?

im sure the developers dont want us to go out and kill kids in real life, but come on, it is make blieve after all, if we are allowed to blow some random persons head into a million bloody pieces, why cant we do it to kiddies too?
for the same reason that mass effect is a "boob strapaganza(sp?)"
 

lizards

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StarStruckStrumpets said:
Doth said:
Taboo

In other words it is an example of how fucked up morals and ethics in general are.
Well, you're right.

"Let's kill this old woman, steal her drops, then buy her house, just to take the piss."

You try and shoot a kid, suddenly the God of Games intervene's and tells you that you will suffer a fate of being assaulted by Wii-motes in hell.

ha high 5 for that to
 

Treblaine

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Well he most obvious reason and most likely the actual reason is game developers don't want to have to deal with the bullshit of the moral implications of infanticide.

But there are really two questions:

Why IS it not?

Why SHOULD it not?

The question is like an elephant in the room, it is quite clear by the precedent set by both games and tv shows and films, you can get away with senselessly killing hundreds of innocent people, even in a film like HEAT (yes, I always write that film's name in upper case... don't know why) in the intense Bank Shootout Bob De Niro's character actually shoots and kills a mother and the film doesn't skip a beat and he remains a sympathetic character. Yet Sizemore's character takes a little girl hostage and when Pachino's character kills him with a carefully placed shot (yes, I really have forgotten all the characters names, boy, I thought I was a fan) there is no remorse for sizemore.

What does it say about us that we hardly blink at innocent adults being killed, we see it on TV, both fictionally and in real life, we accept it. We watch it as entertainment.

What does this say about our society?

What does this say about our species?

We should be just as shocked by adults being killed as children being killed. Yet we aren't. they're all fellow humans. They both have so much to contribute to society.

Maybe... maybe it is because as a society we don't have the common social connection we used to have.

All we have left are our animal instincts, to spare children because they are no threat. But anyone else, an adult, they are fair game in this rat race.

I realise that people only get emotive about adults being killed when there is empathy... a connection. Things like "For each person who died, they were someone's brother, someone's son, someone's husband" That is why I can hardly care about running over pedestrians in GTA, not matter how realistically their bodies go flying, there is no way I can really interact with them. I mean if you have ever played GTA4 the character models are OK, but they still act like androids.

This is seen in war accounts, especially pilots, they see people get blown to pieces but they admit they are surprised they are not shocked by it.

I think about deaths in games. Those I care about were those the developer had ensured I had created an emotional bond with through careful characterisation and interaction them. In fact in games at least I have cared more about the in game deaths of non-human characters (those that can't even speak) than realistically human characters who are un-relate-able. Because when it comes down to it humanity and species loyalty doesn't count for anything.

10,000 innocent civilians were killed in some civil war = meh

but if your pet dog dies...
 

mrx19869

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OK people here it is. the final thing to say about violent video games.

playing video games does not make you a violent person but apparently not playing HALO makes you kill your parents.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/92443-Halo-Killer-Sentenced-to-Life
 

Tonimata

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Okay, just give me a good reason to kill a kid, and any and ALL reasons you try to give t commit such a deplorable, mindless act will be responded with three simple words.
YOU
ARE
INSANE.
Now go play modded games where you eat baby heads.
 

Gado911

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No bunch of kids have ever deserved to be murederd more in a game than those brats that live in Little Lamplight in Fallout 3.
 

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Bored Tomatoe said:
Supposedly because it would be so "morally wrong" and the players would feel incredibly bad after doing so. Not the case: In fallout 3, I wanted to strangle Princess in little lamplight... she's such a little *****. Also, I only felt bad about killing one person in Fallout 3, and that was Harold, the Mutant who was englufed by the tree, that just got to me for some reason.
Our views on this are uncanny.
I kinda felt bad after killing a Protectron, once.

Y'know, the one in the powdered wig?
 

mike1921

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stevetastic said:
ok here are several reasons
:most people really don't want to kill children
:the controversy would be huge
:it would probably be banned in several countries
:Killing children is just disgusting
Then don't kill children
I hate when people don't do things just because idiots will take it the wrong way
see above
It's not real children so who cares.
Gado911 said:
No bunch of kids have ever deserved to be murederd more in a game than those brats that live in Little Lamplight in Fallout 3.
Aww, I actually liked them, although that one ***** pissed me off, I simply called her bluff by saying that what's his name spends more time with whatsherface to try to progress the conversation farther and after that the game I assumed I did it to make the little girl cry and subtracted from my karma, which is total fucking bullshit.
 

throwitinthetrash

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What really confuses me about how bethesda did it in fallout 3.
So you magically can't fire your gun while aiming at them and grenades just don't effect them. Go moms! But wait!

YOU CAN NUKE A CITY. There's two children in there if I recall, and I don't think they would've 'wandered off to explore the wastes' at the time of the explosion.
Is it because I can't emulate that action that it's ok? Well I'm off to prove them wrong (let's see how long till the FBI gets over here)
 

LogicNProportion

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Because that would summon Jack Thompson and his mighty crushing feet of incompetence!

Only this time he would have a reason to come out of his Hellhole in Florida.
 

Bored Tomatoe

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Gerazzi said:
Bored Tomatoe said:
Supposedly because it would be so "morally wrong" and the players would feel incredibly bad after doing so. Not the case: In fallout 3, I wanted to strangle Princess in little lamplight... she's such a little *****. Also, I only felt bad about killing one person in Fallout 3, and that was Harold, the Mutant who was englufed by the tree, that just got to me for some reason.
Our views on this are uncanny.
I kinda felt bad after killing a Protectron, once.

Y'know, the one in the powdered wig?
Odd, that gouls and robots are more likable than those snot nosed brats.