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Stringytank

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bowserboy26578 said:
ZeroMachine said:
Unfortunately, the crappy cartoons make more money these days. That's why I'm going to horde DVDs of stuff like Dexter's Lab, Cow and Chicken, and Hey Arnold (I know it's Nickelodeon, but it's my favorite show from when I was a kid) so my kids can be raised on the good stuff.
Great Idea!
I might actually do that...
 

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RPJesus said:
Actually Cartoon network seems to be in an upswing lately.
The old stuff was still probably better, allthough that could be the nostalgia talking, but The misadventures of Flapjack, The Mr. Men Show, and Chowder are all good. Adult swim at least has anime to compensate for "3 hours of things we found funny when we were high at 3 AM"
flapjack and chowder are good. but mr. men show is too pre-school. everything esle is complete trite.
 

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I miss joney bravo, and samaria jacl sooooo much, jonie bravo was like duke nukem meets elvis.
 

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RPJesus said:
Actually Cartoon network seems to be in an upswing lately.
The old stuff was still probably better, allthough that could be the nostalgia talking, but The misadventures of Flapjack, The Mr. Men Show, and Chowder are all good. Adult swim at least has anime to compensate for "3 hours of things we found funny when we were high at 3 AM"
Never heard of the Mr. Men show, but I don't watch TV much anymore. I have seen Flapjack, and it is actually pretty good. Chowder is... bleh. Atleast they have something slightly decent though, neh?
 

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bowserboy26578 said:
I've been watching Cartoonnetwork for years. Actually, I stopped watching a few years back- but my sister turned it on today and I realized that the whole channel is on big collection of ADD morons now. That Dried Dynomite crap is every thing that make Tim and Eric Awsome Show Great Job cool, and ruins it. What ever happened to being the only channel that you'll never see a live peson on. I miss the days of Cartoon Cartoons. What ever happened to the good old shows and why are they replaced with this crap. These guys aren't Disney. If they're not pimping their crappy character for money, then why are they turning themselves into crap distributors like Disney and the new Nick. What ever happened?

What do you think?
To begin with, tim and eric awsome shows sucks donkey nuts and should be cancelled. I plan to rant on the decline of [as] content at a later date.

Secondly yes, the quality of cartoons on that network has declined, but they took a step in the right direction with chowder and TDI. While not intelligent chowder wins the imagination and randomness reward. TDI on the other hand has some intelligence about it that we haven't seen on that network in a long while.

Lastly, CN is owned by AOL Time Warner, which has some stakes in ABC, which is owned by Disney. So in a convoluted kind of way; yes they are run by Disney.
 

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Never heard of the Mr. Men show, but I don't watch TV much anymore. I have seen Flapjack, and it is actually pretty good. Chowder is... bleh. Atleast they have something slightly decent though, neh?
Schnitzel alone makes the show awesome (Radda radda radda!)
The Mr. Men show is a bit simplistic, but I like it (perhaps having to stay up til 5 AM to watch it influences this, but w/e). Although it occurs to me that one could do a freaking psychological study on this show. This is a town full of people with a single defining neuroisis, and their interaction with eachother. For example, one has to wonder why Mr. Persnickity hasn't sought the proper channels to have a restraining order placed on Mr. Messy yet. And Mr. Stubborn is just awesome, what with him blatantly clinging to his ideology regardless of anything presented to the contrary.
 

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If I wanna watch cartoons I go to Boomerang. I haven't watched it in awhile but last I checked it had dexter's lab and some of the other stuff you guys mentioned.
 

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Its the same thing that happened with comic books, instead of a eccentric protagnist with a huge harido who is fucking awesome, it gets mainstreamed to the other side of hell. The trip across kills all creativity, and the shows downright suck afterwards.
 

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Samurai Jack was a crappy imitation of anime. (like many shows nowadays) I don't know why you guys like it? is it because you haven't watched anime to know that there is better stuff out there? Anyways yes! Everything on there now is ADD in your face flashing colors and shouting. I can't stand it. Also what happened to it being only animation, and if everyone hates Tim and Eric (and I think everyone does) why is it still on?
 

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I died emotionally because of what they did to Tom, Toonami, and the fucking program itself. I miss good cartoons, they taught you useful life lessons and were enjoyable. The shit they have on nowadays is just colorful which young ones these days just can't get enough of.
 

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Bring back to Cartoon Network:
Old school Looney Tunes - Recently, for some holiday (new years?) CN played a marathon of the old cartoons. Wile E. Coyote, Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, the good stuff. I called my girlfriend to cancel the date tonight, she asked why, I told her, she came over. WE GOT GROWN FRIENDS TO COME OVER AND WATCH CARTOONS. I actually laughed, laughed, while watching Cartoon Network. That hasn't happened since Adult Swim got rid of Futurama.
Old school Superhero Cartoons - Batman TAS, Superman TAS, hell, Batman Beyond, the Justice League, Christ, I'll go with Static Shock. These were all bearable, and I'd watch them occasionally, and they actually made good kids instead of this scary Japanese bullshit.
Toonami - Thundercats. Thundercats. Thundercats....HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Nothing else needs be said.
Tom & Jerry - I'm pretty sure this is played during lunch. Play it more.

I realize that the Boom channel exists, but it generally has the SUPER old cartoons, not just the good ones.
 

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I'm hijacking my brother's account here, so this is more like Burgerwoman posting right now.

I remember watching Animaniax and The Powerpuff Girls. I also remember Samurai Jack, but I didn't really like it XD Oh man I remember watching the very first English episode of Pokemon too, and Yugioh! Then when the not-4kids anime stuff was popular, I watched some of Rave Master and recorded every episode of Teen Titans. That show was great.

But yeah, it seems like most of the cartoon channels are just playing dumb crap. Nick had Avatar and Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide (my dad has laughed out loud at that show) and both are now done. I they play reruns, but it's not the same.

And while I'm remembering cartoons, I remember when Disney wasn't included with cable. And, you know, when they actually played Disney stuff. None of that Hannah Montana crap, seriously. Have you seen iCarly? That is the most epic fail ever. I was personally insulted, as someone who would most likely be in the main character's audience (they run a really bad vlog thing).
 

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God I miss the old CN, i'm just sad that my little brother won't get to grow up watching the awsome shows that I did. Maybe I could buy him a few DVD's but it's still a shame that he won't be able to see them on regular TV.
 

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i used to watch the network all the time, but now, i rarely do. adult swim was funny back when it was fresh and full of good shows like Space Ghost C2C, ATHF, Sealab 2021... stuff like that. and when they lost the rights to futurama, that totally blew. now they have... king of the hill? give me a break.
i also had great hopes for their little bastard stepchild network Boomerang. i don't know if they are aware, but there are a ton of great cartoons from the 80's that would make for one hell of a line-up. i'm sure there is all sorts of red tape to acquiring the airing rights to everything from thundercats to the real ghostbusters... hell, even the early 90's had good stuff. you can do so much better than the crappy 70's lineup they run now.
and since when did Cartoon Network start airing live-action family movies? i'm sure around the time they started referring to themselves as the CN, in the vein of the terrible MTV, so they have plausible deniability as to why they won't be airing cartoons at all anymore.
 

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I personally avoid CartoonNetwork now'days, mainly because most of the programs are utter crap, cranked out with the same unlikeable and uninteresting plots characters and situations. If it's not cheaply made American-ised Anime that relises on cheap bodily humor, or overly dramatic plots, its something that was personally butchered by Fox-kids. Unfortunaly, these programs are churned out at rate that eclipses all the good shows like Courage the cowardly dog, causing the money grubbing TV executives to cancel early so that all the shit that like the cheap crap can see another repeat of Bloody Naruto or Power puff girls.
 

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Ruzzian Roulette said:
Cartoon Network is digging it's own grave. All the cool shows like Johnny Bravo and Dexter's Laboratory are gone.

Oh yeah, the upside is CN created the greatest cartoon ever, SAMURAI JACK.
*Cries* =(
I miss those show so damn much. You are right though most of the new shows are absolute shit.

Only a matter of time before someone blows up the CN studios.....

*Walks back to secret planning room*
 

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ironfist86 said:
i also had great hopes for their little bastard stepchild network Boomerang. i don't know if they are aware, but there are a ton of great cartoons from the 80's that would make for one hell of a line-up. i'm sure there is all sorts of red tape to acquiring the airing rights to everything from thundercats to the real ghostbusters... hell, even the early 90's had good stuff. you can do so much better than the crappy 70's lineup they run now.
I totally agree. All they seem to show is Hannah Barbara. Hannah Barbara seems to get a free ride on nostalgia, but only a handful of their shows were worth anything to start with. Poor production values, canned laughter, and contrived, cliche characters and plots.

Cartoon Network (NOT CN dammit!) was kind of a let down for me. When I was a kid, I was the only kid I knew who didn't get that channel. When did I get it? Three days after I turned 15. Dexter's Lab just didn't appeal to me anymore. On the other hand, late 90s Warner Brothers series seem to have only gotten funnier with time. My roommate got an Animaniacs DVD last year, and I never realized how much went completely over my head when I was younger. Tiny Toons and Pinky and The Brain have become much funnier with improved perspective and increased cultural context. If you haven't seen these shows in the last ten years, do yourself a favor and look them up.

I remember Toonami vaguely. I was conflicted about "japanamation" back in those days. It was a little more complicated in my hometown of Bremerton, Washington. We had a sizeable Asian-American population and every year we got a few sailor's families (usually navy) who had spent a few years in Japan. My primary school had Japanese versions of Pokemon circulating around as early as 1996. By the time I was in high school, and able to watch anime, I met the Japanophiles. They took four years of Japanese language classes, libraries of tapes and (untranslated) manga. They would hang out in the Japanese classroom talking in Japanese and cooking rice. And then I found out the Barenaked Ladies watched Sailor Moon and my forty-year-old (male) math teacher had a signed(!) Card Captor Sakura poster above his desk. What kind of messages are those supposed to send?

Imagine if you were about to try heroin, but saw Steven Adler hit rock bottom just outside the door. Those kids scared me off anime for years. I still don't like to admit to people that I watch some Japanese shows. I may like my heroin, but I don't want to look like an addict, you know?

I can tell you right now that cartoons haven't gotten any worse, they've just gotten less familiar. Have you ever sat down and WATCHED the Flintstones or the Jetsons? They're like bad caricatures of sit-coms. Fred Flintstone is a jackass of the highest caliber. Jane Jetson is a pastiche of sit-com wives: over-bearing, insensitive, demanding, and lazy. In the opening sequence, she takes all of Georges money and goes to the mall while a robot maid takes care of the housework. Cue canned laughter. I shudder.