Why did Warhammer mmo 'W.A.R.' never become big?
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Well, the majority of MMO players wouldn't be playing it if it wasn't the most polished. Fairly simple reasoning to follow there...Dulcinea said:
As i said DDO is not you average MMO and it's intensivelly focusing...well dungeon crawling. Beside the obvious D6D features collision detection is a must to survive.Kalezian said:
Not really sure what you think I meant since DDO is the only MMO I play. Still that might work in starting dungeons but even starting with marketplace dungeons you really need to use all the tricks you can to survive(of course I'm talking elite and epic dif since the other can be soloed to a certain extent).Lt. Vinciti said:
I'm allowed to be hypocritical. Doesn't mean it makes it right. Stop aiming at that.Dulcinea said:
It IS the industry standard. Just because you don't think it should be, doesn't mean it isn't! Industry standards are OBJECTIVE. I assume that you know what that word means, you use its opposite quite often, albeit only to further your own point of view.
You are not a developer. Nor are you a publisher. You don't get a say in what the industry standard is. The industry's opinion is what makes the standard, and from there it becomes fact that that is the industry's opinion. And since we're talking about the industry standard, YOUR opinion is irrelevant.
I personally think that WoW is a good industry standard. That IS what developers should aim to beat. It'd be no good aiming to beat LotROnline, because then you're still swimming around the F2P market.
Ugh, I'm rambling. POINT IS: WORLD OF WARCRAFT IS INDUSTRY STANDARD.
There. I even put it in big letters so you can understand it better. I'm not insulting you, merely adjusting my argument to better suit your own style. Since you refuse to accept the eloquently obvious, I will simply make my letters bigger and restate my point, because everybody in this thread has given you every reason under the Sun why we are stating fact, and not opinion, and you refuse to pay it any attention. So there you have it.
Because, you ignorant buffoon, this is not an opinion. It's a blatant fact. This is called 'education', child. I do the same thing when a spiritualist tells me that happy thoughts will heal my illness.Dulcinea said:
My opinion is that World of Warcraft should be the industry standard.
Your opinion is that it should not.
The fact is that World of Warcraft is the industry standard.
http://www.sodahead.com/entertainment/detour-mmo-industry-takes-a-wrong-turn/blog-320293/
http://www.swtor-europe.com/index.php/blog/1-swtor-articles/138-bioware-world-of-warcraft-established-the-mmo-standards
http://wowcata.com/news/2011/02/bioware-says-wow-is-the-touchstone-for-star-wars-the-old-republic/
There we go. Three links. The first is an opinion from some random Star Wars Galaxies fan. The second two come straight from developers. The people that SET the industry standard.
Whether you're trolling or just trying to assert your 'intellectual superiority', please stop it. You're just making a fool of yourself (add random joke about HURR DIS IS FACT NOT OPINION HURR)Dulcinea said:
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I found it quite sad, Warhammer Online was a blast, but too many people were already in endgame so I never got around to doing the Public Quests, you know, the fun stuff, and thus I stopped at level 15 or so
A subjective opinion of something being popular? 10 million subscribers is not subjective. That shows, without doubt that it is a very popular game, and would not be popular if it wasn't good. You don't have to like the game, but when that many people agree, it's hard to argue against them without sounding like an idiot.Dulcinea said:
WAR ain't doing so well partly because of bad design and rushed development, partly due to being the same genre as WoW.
Industry Standard is the standard by which games are measured BY THE INDUSTRY, not by you or me. You only need to look at any new MMORPG and you'll see WoW all over it. The movement system, the UI layout, the quest system. It's all ripped off from WoW because WoW has been so successful and that means other games want to copy it to steal some of that success.
^^ This is what industry standard is. WoW is industry standard. That's not an opinion, it's not subjective, it's cold hard fact. Truth, even.
So just cut your losses and stop.
Just stop, you're making yourself look like an idiot and you've been keeping at that steadily for all seven pages of this topic.Dulcinea said:
Industry Standard is the standard by which games are measured BY THE INDUSTRY, not by you or me. You only need to look at any new MMORPG and you'll see WoW all over it. The movement system, the UI layout, the quest system. It's all ripped off from WoW because WoW has been so successful and that means other games want to copy it to steal some of that success.
^^ This is what industry standard is. WoW is industry standard. That's not an opinion, it's not subjective, it's cold hard fact. Truth, even.
So just cut your losses and stop.
Now you're just being a proper c***.Dulcinea said:
Most mmos have the same mechanics that wow has, i was playing a similar mmo even before wow showed up, if anything wow copied other popular mmos, not that i care, i tried wow for a few days, the cartoony graphics and the same starter quests like anywhere else where you had to hunt wolves didn't appeal to me, nut it seems that it somehow became the biggest thing ever, perhaps because it was made by blizzard.Hobo Steve said: