Why Dishonored 2 doesnot have corvo as sole protagonist?

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Why does it even have Corvo at all? Dishonored 1 made it seem pretty clear Corvo's tale was over.

You dont need Corvo for it to be Dishonored. The Outsider is the only character that needs to be recurring.
 

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honestly I'm disappointed it has Corvo in it at all. His story ended in Dishonored 1, and all the gameplay videos I've seen make it look like Emily is more interesting to play as.

So I have to ask why does Dishonored 2 not have Emily as the sole protagonist? is the because they're too afraid of men not buying the game because "teh femalez!!11!!1!"

The answer to your question, and my rhetorical question are actually the same. They went the dual protagonist route because they wanted to.
 

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I don?t mind Emily as a protagonist and greatly appreciate the variety on offer. And no, including her in the game as a playable character is not indicative of any sort of social justice agenda; I can feel myself getting dumber trying to wrap my head around how/why anyone would think that. #SteppedInTrollDroppings

Seems like the devs might be trying to address the issue many had with the last game wherein it was sold as a ?choose your play style, stealth or open combat? type game, but there was a lack of incentive to play stealthily as most of the powers you unlock are lethal and a lot of fun to use making the stealth option little more than an exercise in restraint. Personally, I found both playthroughs enjoyable in their own right, but I?m hoping in the sequel with two protagonist and two different motivations, they?re able to pull the stealthy and open combat styles apart more distinctly and make both clearly viable and justifiable options.

If I had any issue with the sequel, it?d be their choice to voice Corvo. It?s not a deal breaker by any stretch, just feels incongruous to suddenly give voice to a silent protagonist. But I guess bringing in Emily (voiced in the first game,) they had to make a choice, mute her or voice him, and they went with what made the most narrative sense.

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Ezekiel said:
Bombiz said:
Ezekiel said:
. Assassin would be silly.
Wait what's wrong with her being an assassin? Wasn't she tought by Corvo?
Because of what I said later.

Realistically, she'd have underground rebels fighting for her, forbidding her from getting herself in danger, since she is vitally important to their cause. Like in Hidden Fortress. She would be learning about politics and her royal duties instead.

If no one will fight for her, why the hell is she trying to reclaim her throne?
Someone mentioned she could learn her duties in the fifteen years between the games, but there are other problems.

Also, assassinating would make it much harder for her to be supported by her people. Prowling and murder is looked down on. There's no way the rebels, if there are any who support her, would risk this identity getting out. There's no need for her to get her hands literally dirty.
Okay, I gotta ask; why are these details so important to adhere to realism while the entire game world is a steampunk power fantasy? Why does magic and psychic talking clockwork hearts and silent protagonists who refuse to defend themselves by just speaking, all get away with the realism criticism, yet a woman's ability and motivation for being an assassin is somehow the breaking point? I am completely and utterly baffled here.
Ha! Nothing like pure fantasy grounded in mundane realism; like listening to Dick Cheney read the transcripts to furry porn or something.
 
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If it was any other person behind this thread, i'd be tempted to call out baiting.

But since it is you, my friend, i'll leave a honest answer: To extend playerbase, i guess?

Now i didn't play Dishonored so i don't really care about the sequel, but there's one thing i'd like to nitpick here: Couldn't they feature a new female protag that isn't a princess? Wouldn't that Emily character be occupied with more important stuff, more suitable for a person in her position?
Like, iunno, governing shit, or not endagering your bloodline?
Unless there are some important lore details i don't know.
 

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Ezekiel said:
You do know that the assassinating is a recent development right? She doesn't sneak out of the palace to kill people, she's just trained. Corvo easily could've just given her sword lessons, and it was established in the previews she she's athletic because she snuck out at night to go running on the rooftops as her way of unwinding.
 

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B-Cell said:
I want my games to be badass. you know?
Women can be badasses you know.

I'll eveconcede that there might be some instances where the inclusion of different options or playable characters might be seen in some way as a gesture to the feminists, but Dishonored 2 looks like an excellent example where having Emily be a playable character is a great choice for both the gameplay and story. Her relationship with Corvo is the linchpin of the first game and it only makes sense that the Outsider takes an interest in her as Empress. Plus, her powers look brutal as fuck.
 
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I'm not sure whether this is bait or not. I mean, the more I read the OP's posts the more I can't believe someone is this shallow. XD I'm gonna assume he's baiting.

As for the "I get why Emily wants her throne back but why is the EMPRESS fighting when she should be keeping herself safe?!" people...

Well, for one thing, her enemy is a witch who is using Outsider magic. You can't beat an Outsider mage without another Outsider mage. Her powers are needed on the frontlines.

For two, given that like, the whole setting seems to be against Emily here, she probably got non-person'd in a way that makes it very difficult to rally a full competent rebellion.

For three, we know that Emily is a little impetuous, and she's older now, so I think it's totally reasonable that she'd insist she get to fight in person. ...That and if something serious happens to Corvo in the intro, damn you can be sure she'd want payback.
 

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B-Cell said:
I want my games to be badass. you know?
LOL. I find your sexism equal parts comical and sad Bro-Cell




...and like I said on the other site, stating that you like the girl from Portal doesn't count. You barely see her and she doesn't speak(no wonder she's your favorite lol).
 

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ZombieProof said:
B-Cell said:
I want my games to be badass. you know?
LOL. I find your sexism equal parts comical and sad Bro-Cell




...and like I said on the other site, stating that you like the girl from Portal doesn't count. You barely see her and she doesn't speak(no wonder she's your favorite lol).
I like shodan from system shock. best female character by very large margin.
 

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Another convenient answer. A bodiless voice that isn't actually a woman at all. Even better is that you get to tout your retro elitism on top of your sexism with that one.

Keep diggin Brain-Cell hahahaha.
 

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undeadsuitor said:
B-Cell said:
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Considering you can let Emily die, the sequel shouldn't have had her as a main. Besides, a princess becoming a badass assassin to claim her thrown is dumb. I would have preferred an original character over both.
absolutely. emily is princess. its like cinderalla become badass warrior lol

kinda sad stephen russel voicing corvo yet corvo is not focus of the game story. he should have been next Garrett from thief. way to ruined a potentiall.
Princess Leia
Merida
Padme
Eowyn

The list goes on.
 

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B-Cell said:
Is it to appease gaming feminist extremist to bring a female character as protagonist? who complain about gaming industry invaded by men? or some other reason?
Shots fired. You had to go there, didn't you?
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How is that dumb? If she's been deposed (presumably by violence) then there's a pretty short list of ways she can get her throne back and basically all of them require violence. Making her a playable character just means she's getting her own hands dirty instead of convincing other people to get their hands dirty for her.
Realistically, she'd have underground rebels fighting for her, forbidding her from getting herself in danger, since she is vitally important to their cause. Like in Hidden Fortress. She would be learning about politics and her royal duties instead.

If no one will fight for her, why the hell is she trying to reclaim her throne?
Now, you made me more interested in the game than ever. Does even anyone support her in the first place? Or maybe they don't have enough rebels? It will be fun to see what explanation the game has for getting her life being risked.

On the other side, when a coup happens, does The Usurper usually take part on the fight? Or does he direct everything from a safe place, never putting himself in real danger? I think in videogames, the former isn't rare. Isn't there a name for that specific trope?
 

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I'm really surprised Corvo was there at all.

He's almost a non-character in the first game. As "iconic" goes, you could slap the Assassin's mask and the Outsider's Mark on anyone really.

He was also a bit long in the tooth, as it were. He's decently middle-aged in the first one, and this is at least 8-10 years after that (Emily presumably has gone from 12-18 or more). Corvo is presumably a human. IIRC, Thief and Hitman don't really pin down their ages too much, or take large jumps in time (or avoid referencing time). MGS gets around it with all sorts of general wackiness, including clones. Haven't played Splinter Cell to say on that one.