Why Do Female Superheroes Rarely Date Normal Human Males?

[Cicada 5]

I am going to say the opposite of what is the general consensus of this thread: there are way too many superheroines dating average joes, and I see it as a symptom that the male author of the comic identifies with the average joe.

I mean, if you're a superpowered almost godlike being, you do NOT date average humans. Just like a supermodel doesn't date ugly guys.

This, for example, bothers me about the new Squirrel Girl comic series. She's almost-dating a guy who is called Chipmunk Hunk, who is like a male version of her, and who is a nobody that was created just for that comic series and just to give the main heroine a love interest.
Well, I hate it. When you've met Tony Stark, Doctor Doom, Thanos, and all of the most powerful fighters in the universe, HOW do you end up with an average joe?

This is a picture of Christina Hendricks and her husband Geoffrey Arend
http://www.fempop.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/87724tduid1429devil1012.jpg

I guess he must be rich or he must give her a job. Sounds blunt, but that's my guess.

As for some of those guys you mentioned? The first is an irresponsible alcoholic playboy on his BEST of days, the second is an egotistical tyrant who once condemned a child to hell and the third is a megalomaniac obsessed with the personification of Death. No woman in her right mind would date those guys. I can think of numerous men in the Marvel and DC Universe no woman, super or no, would want to date.

All of those guys have a thing in common: POWER. Women love power. A superpowered woman would be turned on by a guy who is at least as powerful as she is. I have an easier time imagining Squirrel Girl with dr Doom than with... Chipmunk Hunk or that ugly blonde loser guy whose name I forgot.

Heck, previous comics had it right in how they made Squirrel Girl flirt with Iron Man and Daredevil.

I'm pretty sure women have enough self respect that they're not going to marry por date a guy who's a complete douche just cause he has power. This scene for instance, is more than enough proof that Doom is not boyfriend material.

https://comicculturewarrior.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/bendis-loves-ms-marvel.jpg

Or am I missing the scene where Carol swooned and asked Doom to take her then and there?

 

[JimB]

She is a powerless incarnation of a superhero. That she is normal in that universe is somewhat irrelevant.

It is impossible for me to disagree more strongly that not have special hardware, special training, and a place on a team of superheroes is an irrelevant consideration when deciding whether she can be accurately described as having special hardware, special training, and a place on a team of superheroes. Seriously, are you taking the piss here? I'm really asking, because I can't tell.

Either way, they stink of him to put it bluntly and their in-story cast also reeks of him from name alliteration to everything else.

I invite you to prove which aspects of their character creation he is responsible for, then, though I question what profit you perceive you have on doing so.

The thought of having defending someone catering to their customer base is ridiculous.

I agree; so why are you doing it?

You mean the Circe episode where she asked him out on a date and he gave at least four different reasons why a relationship was a bad idea?

The one where he gave four weak, disingenuous reasons that Wonder Woman easily rebutted without even saying a word, after which he spent the entire episode acting as if he cares for her. Yes, that episode.

As a rule, Agent_Z, if someone puts me in a situation in which I have to choose between believing his words and believing his actions, I will always, always choose to believe his actions.

Seriously where do you guys get this bullshit?

At a guess, high school.

 

[Cicada 5]

She is a powerless incarnation of a superhero. That she is normal in that universe is somewhat irrelevant.

It is impossible for me to disagree more strongly that not have special hardware, special training, and a place on a team of superheroes is an irrelevant consideration when deciding whether she can be accurately described as having special hardware, special training, and a place on a team of superheroes. Seriously, are you taking the piss here? I'm really asking, because I can't tell.

Either way, they stink of him to put it bluntly and their in-story cast also reeks of him from name alliteration to everything else.

I invite you to prove which aspects of their character creation he is responsible for, then, though I question what profit you perceive you have on doing so.

The thought of having defending someone catering to their customer base is ridiculous.

I agree; so why are you doing it?

You mean the Circe episode where she asked him out on a date and he gave at least four different reasons why a relationship was a bad idea?

The one where he gave four weak, disingenuous reasons that Wonder Woman easily rebutted without even saying a word, after which he spent the entire episode acting as if he cares for her. Yes, that episode.

As a rule, Agent_Z, if someone puts me in a situation in which I have to choose between believing his words and believing his actions, I will always, always choose to believe his actions.

Seriously where do you guys get this bullshit?

At a guess, high school.

They still were never shown as having an actual romantic relationship on screen though. Not saying there wasn't an attraction, just that it never went beyond that.

There's an episode of Batman Beyond were Bruce is browsing through pictures of women he's dated which included Lois Lane. Not just been attracted to but actually had a relationship with. Diana is never seen in any of those pics.

 

[PsychicTaco115]

I doubt a person with superpowers would want to date someone who's normal

Normal is the new nice

You need more than that

 

[Buckets]

Maybe you should watch My Super Ex Girlfriend, might give you a few pointers.

 

[Cicada 5]

I'm pretty sure women have enough self respect that they're not going to marry por date a guy who's a complete douche just cause he has power.

Oh hadn't you heard? Girls only date jerks. That way if I can't get a date it's every woman ever's fault rather than some personal failing on my part.

....I just wanted to point out that I AM a woman. I hope this allows me to express this opinion without being considered some guy who is angry at women not dating him, or something.
And yes, sadly, women are much more attracted to the bad boy who is kind of a jerk but is very confident and strong, rather than the nice guy (really nice guy, not a euphemism) who submissively and insecurely hangs around.

Given that superpowered women don't exist in real life, it's difficult to say what type of man they'd choose.

I'm just going to say that your claims about the type of man women are attracted to does not track with the women I've met in my life and leave it at that.

I can't think of any version of Steve Rogers or Peter Parker that is half as despicable as Doom. Well maybe Ultimate Steve Rogers (and even he got dumped by Wasp).

 

[JimB]

There's an episode of Batman Beyond where Bruce is browsing through pictures of women he's dated, which included Lois Lane.

I'm only passingly familiar with that program. Do you have a name of that episode so I can check a few things?

 

[Cicada 5]

Given that superpowered women don't exist in real life, it's difficult to say what type of man they'd choose.

If they have to be in any way relatable, they must follow a logic similar to normal women.

I'm just going to say that your claims about the type of man women are attracted to does not track with the women I've met in my life and leave it at that.

Fair enough, but then consider this: do you know any woman in real life, who dates a man who is in some way clearly inferior to her?

I can't think of any version of Steve Rogers or Peter Parker that is half as despicable as Doom. Well maybe Ultimate Steve Rogers (and even he got dumped by Wasp).

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Again, it is my experience that not all women think alike. You may not like a super woman dating a normal man but I don't think all women think alike. In fact, the Mary Sue and DC Women Kicking Ass have had some of their female writers and posters express annoyance at the Superman/Wonder Woman relationship.

My mom actually makes more money than my dad.

Superior Spider-Man was literally another guy in Peter Parker's body.

Not sure what the significance of the Ultimate Steve image was

 

[Cicada 5]

There's an episode of Batman Beyond where Bruce is browsing through pictures of women he's dated, which included Lois Lane.

I'm only passingly familiar with that program. Do you have a name of that episode so I can check a few things?

Out of the Past, Episode 5 of Season 3

http://dcau.wikia.com/wiki/Out_of_the_Past

 

[JimB]

There's an episode of Batman Beyond where Bruce is browsing through pictures of women he's dated, which included Lois Lane.

I'm only passingly familiar with that program. Do you have a name of that episode so I can check a few things?

"Out of the Past," Episode 5 of Season 3

http://dcau.wikia.com/wiki/Out_of_the_Past

Thank you very much, Agent_Z. Unfortunately, I must inform you that the episode "Out of the Past" aired four years prior to the episode of Justice League Unlimited we're discussing, "This Little Piggy."

 

[Cicada 5]

Again, it is my experience that not all women think alike. You may not like a super woman dating a normal man but I don't think all women think alike. In fact, the Mary Sue and DC Women Kicking Ass have had some of their female writers and posters express annoyance at the Superman/Wonder Woman relationship.

I hate Superman/Wonder Woman too. It doesn't invalidate my point.

My mom actually makes more money than my dad.

So what? I am 100% certain that if she married your dad is because he had something she admired. Maybe confidence. Maybe strong personality.

Your mom certainly hasn't married your dad because he is inferior to her in everything. Nobody does that.

Superior Spider-Man was literally another guy in Peter Parker's body.

Not sure what the significance of the Ultimate Steve image was

If you're telling me that it wasn't an image showing Cap as a jerk....
Same goes for Superior SpiderMan: pick it out of context and claim that Spidey is a jerk.

Look, doctor Doom IS a villain character, but do you honestly think he's the kind of guy who speaks like that. A solemn, overly haughty and extremely smart person such as him, speaking like an angry 14 years old mysoginist?
Do you know why you know that specific image? Do you know why everybody knows it? Precisely because of how bad an out of character it is.

So why can't a non-super male possess qualities a super woman can like about him in spite of his lack of powers? Just cause he doesn't have powers, it doesn't mean he's inferior to her in every way.

I know Ultimate Steve was a jerk. I was asking why you posted the picture as I mentioned that in a previous post.

Do I think a guy who has a preposterously low opinion of just about every body in the world except himself would speak like that? A man who sacrificed the woman he claimed to love to hell to gain super powers? A man whose ego makes it impossible fro him to admit his mistakes? A man who once tried to force himself on a peasant girl?

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2012/03/08/i-love-ya-but-youre-strange-that-time-dr-doom-tried-to-force-himself-on-a-peasant-girl/

Yeah I do.

In fact, I'd say what makes Doom so interesting is how deluded he is in thinking that he ISN'T just a petty, egotistical man child.

 

[happyninja42]

The only example I can think of, probably doesn't count, since it's not a comic book, but:

The Dresden Files. Harry's mother, a super badass wizard, who had a scary amount of power and connection in the supernatural world, hooked up with a stage magician who did kid's parties. And when asked why by a fan, on how did a normal guy like him get such a powerful woman. According to the author: "Because at that time in her life, she found a good, honest man, and that was what she needed."

So, yeah, that's the only example I can think of.

 

[DementedSheep]

Off the top of my head, there's Black Canary. I mean, sure, she is with a hero technically, But the Green Arrow's superpowers are: Pretty good with a weapon that was outdated centuries ago" and "Really nice moustache"

Also I guess anyone who's gotten with any Robin. Also, Wonder Woman had her very own Lois Lane in the form of one Captain Steve Trevor. Though I think he was phased out around the time bondage stopped being her one weakness.

Or it was just Sexism. Yeah, probably that. The paytreearkey had to keep all dem fictional wimminz down.

I don't think really think "non powered" superheros count as normal. It's comics, the difference between a hero with powers and one without is what they decide to call it.