Why do PC gamers get so much hate

[auronvi]

We all play games it shouldn't matter so much what we play them on or which ones we do. Respect one's freedom to choose. I was always sick of being awesome at PC games but the skill didn't translate to XBox when I was invited to lan games. I didn't own an XBox, just a PC and PS2. So this generation I devoted myself to becoming 1337 at all games across all platforms. I don't have a DS though... but that system is for Noobs! lol, jk jk.

"If one wants to truly pwn, one must pwn in all games."

 

[Sven und EIN HUND]

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Yes, I was being sarcastic and I couldn't really be stuffed contributing because these threads are a dime a dozen and seeing them always makes me go :|

 

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Yes, I was being sarcastic and I couldn't really be stuffed contributing because these threads are a dime a dozen and seeing them always makes me go :|

Really?

My reaction is more along the lines of...

 

[Codeman90]

This is a ridiculous argument. I play both, they both have issues.

I have had the RROD before and I have had a $200 video card stop working for absoloutly no reason at all. I enjoy games on both. Usually getting good RTS and stratagy games on the PC and Shooters/ =action games on the consoles.

This elitism, consoletard BULLSHIT is infuriating. We are enjoying the same hobby for christ sake! Aren't we supposed to be pissed off about people who look down on gaming as a whole?

Console fanboys arent helping either. The "PC Gaming Master Race" seems like its alot more common because YOUR MOST LIKELY TYPING THIS ON A COMPUTER. Therefore more PC gamers. Just play games and enjoy em. I'm sick of these fanboy, eliteist bullshit arguments

 

[Zephirius]

Elitism mainly. To give an example, /v/ and its 'Glorious PC Master Race' crap.

Also, there's the big deal with piracy, and the compounded annoyance of people who call Console gamers 'casual morons' that are 'ruining the industry', before turning to their computers and going 'OH &"%@! CONTRA 4 JUST GOT DUMPED! CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THIS %"@^, PIRATAN!'

Right. Because console games never get pirated (2 of my friends do it all the time and a third is considering it. They have tried to convince me to do it too).

I never implied that console games never get pirated. It's just that in my experience, console pirates don't preach about it and act all justified and arrogant about it.

Fair enough. Though the reason you never hear console pirates going on about it is because piracy is much more recognized as a PC thing, console piracy on a large scale being fairly new (can't pirate cartridges) and almost all the discussions are about PC piracy. I guess that has to do with the openness of the platform, making it much easier to pirate things than on a console. Perhaps PC users just have more free time to waste on pointless discussions and flamewars about piracy, who knows.

 

[TelHybrid]

PC's are generally more powerful and can allow change to how games are played. They are generally more expensive, if you do not include the moniter(Including the moniter would mean including the TV when buying a console). PC gamers expect a level of quality when purchasing games. Features that have previously been taken for granted, such as dedicated servers, are unavailable on consoles for a myriad of reasons.

Consoles are a simpler and far more casual way of gaming. The beauty of the system is the everything just works.

As for why PC gamers get so much hate, it is probably a mix of jealousy and disdain for elitism.

What annoys me the most about the "dedicated server" issue and the insueing rage, is the reaction of console gamers. Many times I found the same response which generally can be summed up as "HA! Now your on our level". This attitude was selfing and outright stupid, as rather than mocking others for being brought down to inferior technology, they should have been trying to get themselves on the higher level of technology.

/rant

Oh god yeah... that really irritates me. They should be hoping for their form of gaming to improve, not for PC gaming to decline in quality.

OT: I think the hate stems from console fanboys who simply don't understand anything about computers, such as how to build/upgrade one. They then come up with stupid reasons for PC gaming apparently being a bad thing such as "it costs too much" and "there's no games" and such.

The fact is, you can build a decent PC that will last years for around £300 or so. It only costs a large sum if you're the type of gamer who needs everything on highest settings. Medium/low settings are basically the same quality as its console port graphically.

So yeah the PC itself costs a bit more, but the games are cheaper, and most have mod support, plus there's cool things you can do, such as easy matchmaking via steam or xfire.

You try explaining this to a console fanboy in a rational way, and you get called an elitist, followed by "at least I don't pirate games!!" and "haha your modern warfare 2 is downgraded to be the same as ours!" and "my way of gaming is better as it's just put the disc in and play" and such.

P.S. I'm not a PC fanboy. Got my 360 and PS3 both hooked up, and they are my preferred platforms, but I accept PC gaming is generally of higher quality.

 

[Angilion]

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a pc gamer on the other hand needs a computer, a mouse, RAM, graphics, a game, minimum space on the hard drive, minimum specohforfucksakeimborednow...

plus irregardless of what people say (anyone who argues with this statement, you're lying) pc gaming is a fuck of alot more expensive than console gaming.

both of those make any pc gamers i know snooty and stuck up when it comes to talking about their gaming experiences.

Maybe they're just annoyed by you parading your complete ignorance of PC gaming and forming risible opinions from it.

 

[Angilion]

[..]It is never as simple as saying "consoles are awlays cheaper than PCs" or vice versa, and if you do I garuntee you have no fucking clue.

You're right, but you're missing one factor. PC games are cheaper than console games, which is obviously a factor in the overall cost of gaming. Console games include a payment to the console company, which of course is passed on to the customer.

As you say, it can go either way. It mainly depends on how much a person spends on upgrades for their PC. Merely keeping above the latest console is very cheap, buying the best kit every 6 months is very expensive.

 

[Danny Ocean]

Hey hey hey! Look at this! [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.67044?page=1]

I was waiting for a time to bring that thread up again.

 

[Angilion]

Wow that is pretty sweet

In practice, it isn't as good as it first seems. The casing of the monitors really gets in the way. It's like fitting bars to the windscreen of your car - irritating. Also...who can afford 6 good monitors and a PC capable of rendering games at 3x2 times the native resolution of them? You're looking at anything up to 7680x3200 (2560x1600 is a standard PC resolution).

A PC can feed a bank of 24 monitors, in theory.

 

[sirdanrhodes]

Well, generally maintaining a PC to play modern games can be expensive, which is why a pc gamer can come off as an elitist.

I beg to differ.

http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2009/08/what-hardware-should-i-buy-august-2009/1.png

This can run Crysis at about 30fps. True you have to build it yourself, but it works out cheaper than pre built and is very good.

 

[TBR]

this thread's a bit long, so I'm going to skip a few pages and just throw my $0.02 in.

PC gamers are often hated by console (and console-only) gamers because we're elitists.

No two ways about it.

We feel like we are entitled to the best and only the best, and we expect said best.


COD4: MW2 is a good example of this; we had grown used to our superior-than-console versions of many games, and this sudden drop in quality got many of us upset and/or angry. Not only had we lost all the things that made us great, we were now stuck in the same boat as everyone else with the watered down version.

Of course, NOBODY denies the PC gamer what we want, and within a week we had restored MW2 to what would have been it's glory if IW/Activision/Bobby hadn't been money-grubbin fools. In this process, IW probably lost a LOT of sales because the PC gamers weren't willing to actually PAY for something hackers had to fix.


While all this was happening, the console-only guys were left confused by our 'passion' for these things, they didn't understand why we wanted them, and from their point of view yes we are massive snobs and elitists. Mind you, considering their version was the inferior one by a LONG shot, they didn't really know any better; they couldn't comprehend what we were fighting for.

And to an exetne many still don't. They don't know why dedicated servers are great for online, and for all their XBL/PSN loving they don't even have a chance of grasping a true online community for a game. They believe mods are the work of the devil; messing with what the glorious game designers worked so hard to make, and they will never create a beautiful texture or model on a console; Photoshop and Maya aren't something they know can be used to do with gaming.

 

[KiKiweaky]

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Can I call it? - ok I will...

The above quote is the steroyptical anti-PC gamer console-kiddie.

I'm not trying to insult you good sir, I'm merely trying to point out the irony.

Also - PC controls are better for everything. why? because if you're playing street fighter (which is next to impossible on a keyboard) you simply plug in a controller...

How is that stereotypical PC hater? I don't hate PC gamers, just the elitist and high-and-mighty ones. Everything I mentioned is from posts that I see all the time, I didn't generalize all PC gamers like that, and why the hell do you say console-KIDDIE? I could call someone PC kiddie and it wouldn't make sense so I don't understand why you would say that

And no offense but you just proved my point by saying that PC controls are better for everything. That is just your opinion, it's not fact, yet so many PC gamers always make that stupid statement over and over again like if it is a fact.

Have an xbox360 and ps2 (no ps3 yet but I plan on buying one) for the past few years but have been using pc's for bout 10 years, just bought a nice new shiny one from ocuk for lots of monies

Well when I was reading a topic on 'no dedicated servers' and console gamers started calling it eliteist bullshit I was kinda wondering to myself how is it elitist bullshit Its just done differently to consoles, allows more people to play in one game, less lag, no games ending due to hosts leaving.

I was kind of suprised to say the least, I played the first MW on xbox live and played MW2 on pc but as both had the same match making system I didnt really notcie much difference. A friend of mine though who doesnt own a console and was used to dedicated servers nearly had a cardiac when he was playing using the match making system. He played MW on pc and wasnt used to the lack of dedicated servers. But thats just him I didnt really mind at all.

When it comes to controls it really depends on the game or a persons preference, RTS is no contest a mouse and keyboard is miles better. FPS is largely down to preference I like both means of playing it. When it comes to third person, fihgting or driving games I'd prefer to play em on a console using a controller.

 

[thedo12]

the real reason is becuase whenever a topic like this is made pc elitests (people who think the almighty pc/mac god is infallable ) get in a circle jerk abut how much better there gaming experience is.


as primaraly a console gamer I admit that pc gaming CAN be the superior choice, however this is supriseingly rare as pc games have so many install issues and errors/glicthes even when playing the games.

plus you have the fact that being curled up in a couch is so much more comfertable then buing hunch around an uncomfertable desk.

 

[happysock]

Wow that is pretty sweet

In practice, it isn't as good as it first seems. The casing of the monitors really gets in the way. It's like fitting bars to the windscreen of your car - irritating. Also...who can afford 6 good monitors and a PC capable of rendering games at 3x2 times the native resolution of them? You're looking at anything up to 7680x3200 (2560x1600 is a standard PC resolution).

A PC can feed a bank of 24 monitors, in theory.

Thats not really the point of it though, it's more to show of than anything else