why do people not know the correct end of the decade?

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Calhoun347

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You are wrong. A Decade is defined as a period of ten years. therefore this is the end of a decade. Starting in 2000.
 

-Orgasmatron-

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Shru1kan said:
But the first minute is from 0.00 to 1.00. therefore the FIRST minute/ year would be counted as 1 backwards to 0. then from 2 backwards to 1. all the way up to the tenth being from 11 backwards to 10.

Therefore the TENTH year finishing this decade will last until the moment of 2011.

I don't think I understand what you mean?

My original post in this thread is probaly a better explantion. See below.

-Orgasmatron- said:
We've already had this thread, you're wrong. Let me break it down.

2000-2001 = year 1
2001-2002 = year 2
2002-2003 = year 3
2003-2004 = year 4
2004-2005 = year 5
2005-2006 = year 6
2006-2007 = year 7
2007-2008 = year 8
2008-2009 = year 9
2009-2010 = year 10, boom decade

You could say that in your arguement the decade starts in 2001, but in real life it doesn't start in 2001, it starts in 2000, we started counting from 0 not 1 and 0-1 = 1 year as explained above.
 

VGStrife

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Shru1kan said:
-Orgasmatron- said:
Shru1kan said:
You don't start counting something that existed at 0. It's like saying I have three dots. 0, 1, 2, 3. here's a picture of them (. . . .)
But an object and a space of time are two different things. It's like in football, if someone scores when the clock is at 05:20, it will go down as being scored in the 6th minute, reason being the clock starts at 00:00, so going from 00:00 to 01:00 is one minute, making 01:00 through to 02:00 the 2nd minute of the match.

But the first minute is from 0.00 to 1.00. therefore the FIRST minute/ year would be counted as 1 backwards to 0. then from 2 backwards to 1. all the way up to the tenth being from 11 backwards to 10.

Therefore the TENTH year finishing this decade will last until the moment of 2011.
Erm, no.

1st min 0-1
2nd 1-2
3rd 2-3
4th 3-4
4th 4-5
6th 5-6
7th 6-7
8th 7-8
9th 8-9
10th 9-10
therefore the 10th min finishes after 10mins....
 

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I think what people who think like the OP get confused about is that the name of the year is not what year we're currently completeing, it's how many years we have completed, so we've already completed for arguements sake 9.9 years since 2000 and once we reach January 1st we will have completed 10 years since 2000. We're currently completeing the 10th year.
 

Lemeza

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Look. 1 CE (or AD) to 11 CE was decade one. Since each decade is a period of ten years ataring after the previous one, if you look at each decade, because we didn't have a year 0 each decade starts on year ending in a one.

It's nothing to do with what Orgasmatron said. It's because there was no year zero so each decade begins one year after people think but because it's nicer ending a decade how most people think it ends it's stuck that way. If you want to be really pendantic though;
1 CE to 2001 CE = 1 millenium.
2001 CE + 10 = 2011.
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
also the that question is rather dumb cause at the time they weren't counting down to year 0, they had a vastly different dating system, even according to the Jews we are somewhere in the years 4000 or something
5770, actually.
 

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Lets count apples. 1 2 3 4.
wait why didn't you start from zero?
because I'm adding them on to the original total.

Does this make sense? we do count from zero, because are relative starting number is zero.
(correct me if I'm wrong.)
 

God's Clown

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Shru1kan said:
Icecoldcynic said:
Well decades aren't maths. Therefore your entire point became meaningless. Right now we're in the 0x decade, and in the new year we will be in the 1x decade. Is that really so hard for you to comprehend? Are you saying the year 0 never existed and doesn't count as a year?
You don't start counting something that existed at 0. It's like saying I have three dots. 0, 1, 2, 3. here's a picture of them (. . . .)

DECA is a group of ten in our decimal system.

Is it really that hard to see? There can't be a year 0 because its like saying I live in the 0th house on the left, Chicago the 0th city established, I came in 0th place... etc etc.


Yeah, OP, your average person doesn't like to to look at odd numbers. Plus counting back by tens in DECAdes would leave you at year 1. So you're correct, spread the word and all that. I got my family to stop being dumb about it when I was 7 and it was New Years Eve 1999.
Technically you have 3 comma's and 1 dot. Sir.
 

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-Orgasmatron- said:
I think what people who think like the OP get confused about is that the name of the year is not what year we're currently completeing, it's how many years we have completed, so we've already completed for arguements sake 9.9 years since 2000 and once we reach January 1st we will have completed 10 years since 2000. We're currently completeing the 10th year.
QFT
 

Shru1kan

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Yeah.. my brain melted a little.

Logic aside. The Gregorian Calendar starts from 1. The calendar you use, starts from one. End of discussion.
 

esperandote

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if you look at years as a programing array/collection (class that inherits from IEnumerable in .net) index the you start at 0.
 

-Orgasmatron-

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Shru1kan said:
Logic aside. The Gregorian Calendar starts from 1. The calendar you use, starts from one. End of discussion.
No shit.

Another thing, people who make the mistake the OP does could be correct when talking the Millenium, but not decades.

See in 2000 we celebrated the start of a new Millenium, when infact we had just finished year number 2000. Year number 2000 started in 1999, making 1999 the actual date we entered the new Millenium, but celebrating it when the numbers changed to 2000 is much more aesthetically pleasing. (I know the definition of Millenium may not be that accurate, but let's not get into that)

That however, has no bearing on decades. I think I do understand where you guys are coming from, and you may be correct if you were talking about the millenium just gone, but as far as decades go, the name of the year we're in his how many years have passed. Therefore, once 2010 starts, 10 years will have passed since 2000.

That make sense to everyone?
 

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Shru1kan said:
But the first minute is from 0.00 to 1.00. therefore the FIRST minute/ year would be counted as 1 backwards to 0. then from 2 backwards to 1. all the way up to the tenth being from 11 backwards to 10.

Therefore the TENTH year finishing this decade will last until the moment of 2011.

WTF?! Can you not even COUNT your OWN math>>???? 1= 0-1 2= 1-2 3= 2-3 4= 3-4 5= 4-5 6= 5-6 7= 6-7 8= 7-8 9= 8-9 10= 9-10
I mean WTF!!!
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Shru1kan

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-Orgasmatron- said:
Shru1kan said:
Logic aside. The Gregorian Calendar starts from 1. The calendar you use, starts from one. End of discussion.
No shit.

Another thing, people who make the mistake the OP does could be correct when talking the Millenium, but not decades.

See in 2000 we celebrated the start of a new Millenium, when infact we had just finished year number 2000. Year number 2000 started in 1999, making 1999 the actual date we entered the new Millenium, but celebrating it when the numbers changed to 2000 is much more aesthetically pleasing. (I know the definition of Millenium may not be that accurate, but let's not get into that)

That however, has no bearing on decades. I think I do understand where you guys are coming from, and you may be correct if you were talking about the millenium just gone, but as far as decades go, the name of the year we're in his how many years have passed. Therefore, once 2010 starts, 10 years will have passed since 2000.

That make sense to everyone?
yes, until you realize that I can say its been a decade since '99 today. From the beginning, decades would end in 1 because there WAS NO ZERO. So the official decades that are widely used would be from the beginning, and the beginning was 1, not 0. 11-1 = 10; 11+10 = 21; 21+10 = 31...


^And I have already addressed my mistake. Disregard that.
 

OmegaXIII

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I always figured that years used a slightly different numerical system, take the first ever decade as an example. From the first day technically you would be in year 0 until 365 (for sake of argument) days had passed. Hence the count begins from 0 so from year 0 to year 1 is one year and thus decades end with the turning of a new multiple of 10.
 

Scikosomatic

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OmegaXIII said:
I always figured that years used a slightly different numerical system, take the first ever decade as an example. From the first day technically you would be in year 0 until 365 (for sake of argument) days had passed. Hence the count begins from 0 so from year 0 to year 1 is one year and thus decades end with the turning of a new multiple of 10.
yes, thank you!
 

Shru1kan

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OmegaXIII said:
I always figured that years used a slightly different numerical system, take the first ever decade as an example. From the first day technically you would be in year 0 until 365 (for sake of argument) days had passed. Hence the count begins from 0 so from year 0 to year 1 is one year and thus decades end with the turning of a new multiple of 10.
But the calendar used by most of the world today didn't have a year 0. it started in year 1. Doesn't make logical sense from a counting viewpoint, but it offsets the decade number to be numbers that end in 1, not a 0.
 

VicunaBlue

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Shut up and go get drunk at a party. If you're thinking about THIS on new years instead of doing that, you are a very confused person.