Why do people think it's ok to pirate games?

[Motiv_]

I haven't torrented a game in years. But, according to my friends, who torrent all the time, note how the games with the strictest DRM become the most torrented games of the year.

Examples.
Spore.
MW2.
Assassin's Creed also had a high download rate last time I checked. Do companies not notice that when they have these bullshit DRM features, all it does is piss off legitimate customers? I legitimately bought a copy of Assassin's Creed 2, installed it, and returned it an hour later. Not because the game itself was bad, the game was great, but because due to my faulty internet, I played for a total of about 10 minutes.

Battlefield Bad Company 2, however, is a game that I absolutely loved. You can either stay connected to the internet, OR keep the disc in the drive. I love it!

So while I don't condone torrenting, I'm not condemning those who torrent either.

 

[The Lawn]

If there is no demo, I'll try it, first to see if it will actually run on my computer and second to see if I like it.

If either of those criteria aren't met, I delete it.
If they both are, I go out and buy the game.

That's the only way I can possibly see downloading an illegal copy as justifiable.

 

[WrongSprite]

Your title is wrong straight away. People DON'T think it's ok to pirate games. They do it because they don't care anyway.

 

[almostgold]

The same reason why I can't find a good argument for game companies charging me £45 for a game that's too short (yet, oddly, the gameplay has been doubled through pointless grinding, minigames or sidequests), buggy, has DRM, is merely an expansion pack to a previous title, or simply plays bad. Especially ones that DON'T EVEN PROVIDE US A DEMO!

I'm looking at you EA and Activision. Why no demos of your latest FPS?

just don't do it. what's the point. you just end up feeling dirty

I like feeling dirty >

Umm... be a better smarter consumer? Research the products?

 

[wordsmith]

I would still classify it as stealing, you are taking something that's not your and not paying for it easy enough. And for your description of the car scenario if I didn't want the breaking feature I would buy the car then modify it myself, or go and find another car that didn't have that feature, see how easy that is. Still the morels behind pirating a game doesn't exist, your doing it to be self serving and because you think you deserve something without having to work for it.

You're not taking it though, that's the point. You aren't removing it.

The point I was drawing out wasn't about the brakes in particular, it was more to pull out that if someone offers you a better version of the car for free, common sense would dictate that you take it.

Oh, and as for appealing to my morality? I took that out back and shot it years ago. It just gets in the way.

 

[Claptrap]

I haven't torrented a game in years. But, according to my friends, who torrent all the time, note how the games with the strictest DRM become the most torrented games of the year.

Examples.
Spore.
MW2.
Assassin's Creed also had a high download rate last time I checked. Do companies not notice that when they have these bullshit DRM features, all it does is piss off legitimate customers? I legitimately bought a copy of Assassin's Creed 2, installed it, and returned it an hour later. Not because the game itself was bad, the game was great, but because due to my faulty internet, I played for a total of about 10 minutes.

Battlefield Bad Company 2, however, is a game that I absolutely loved. You can either stay connected to the internet, OR keep the disc in the drive. I love it!

So while I don't condone torrenting, I'm not condemning those who torrent either.

I dont torrent/download, But i also think its dumb that people who pirate get a BETTER version of the game (No bs drm), Companys dont seem to see that;

1. Drm makes people WANT to pirate.

2. It will be cracked with in a week 99% of the time.

3. They lose money and time createing drm that gets insta cracked.

It just seems so dumb to me that companys still waste money on this crap.

 

[Cody211282]

Well here is a solution, just don't buy games, it's nothing more then entertainment, how the hell are you so entitled to it you would steal it from someone else?

Because people have this huge sense of etitlement and think the world should revolve around them being cheapskates.

"I wasn't going to buy it anyways, so they're not missing out on any money". Wrong. If you're too much of a tightarse to pay for it, than don't fucking play it. It's as simple as that. If you believe otherwise I hope that when you finally get the job of your dreams it gets outsourced to cheap asian labour and you end up living on the streets.

If you didn't pay for it, you don't get to fucking play it.

God thank you for saying that, yes the world isn't fair, yes not everyone has enough money to game, well you know what if you don't have a job that can pay for it maybe you shouldn't be gaming and doing something productive like I don't know getting a better job or getting out of the money hole you might have gotten stuck in.

 

[smithslastoption]

There really isn't a way to justify it, though I make it a point to only pirate games that I have owned before and have lost/given away and become nostalgic for. This way, I don't feel like a total douche, and I get the opportunity to play a decade old game that I haven't played since then. Of course, I promptly become as bored as I was when I owned it and quickly delete it.

 

[Slayer_2]

If the developers didn't make a demo for their game? Come on, it's just sloppy to release a game and expect everyone to buy it.

 

[KingTiger]

Holy shitballs, an anecdote that supports my long held idea that a large majority of piracy is from countries where $50-$100 is more than most people are paid in a month.

Correcto my wise friend. Same goes for the Malaysians and Indonesians I know.

Well here is a solution, just don't buy games, it's nothing more then entertainment, how the hell are you so entitled to it you would steal it from someone else?

So you are saying because I am a poor Uni student who has no income and no rich parents, I should be deprived from games? The rich have fun and the poor must just sit in a corner, shut up and bore themselves to death I guess. I need an Arabian Robin hood for games >.>

I could get an AK-47 in Iraq or Yemen for 100 bucks and practice FPS in real life but its not as fun as COD/Bioshock 2/HL2....there is no respawn you know :/

EDIT: and its not stealing its copying...you dont steal a drawing of a camel if you just take a picture of it

 

[Twilight_guy]

Why do students think it's okay to copy answers from their friends? They belong to a society where its prevalent and thus socially okay since other people do it. The individual is stupid and scared and seeks to do as others do. They also don't get punished because it's hard to track them down. Still, I never hear excuse for why someone doesn't pirate games so at least pirating is still in the minority. As for me, pirates... ye be warned.

 

[Reaper69lol]

Your title is wrong straight away. People DON'T think it's ok to pirate games. They do it because they don't care anyway.

Pretty much
Its not "ok" but it will keep happening.

 

[kurupt87]

Well...let me explain from an Arabian country's perspective.

Downloading an original game would cost zero thanks to the unlimited net connection, while buying an original game(100 bucks max) would cost what I used to pay to study one subject(local price) in the national University.

also, that is equal to a month's food costs for a person. So what to do when companies treat you like a golden goose? Pirate the game which you cant afford.

From meeting people in my high school and Uni....about 100% will pirate instead of depriving themselves from food. its either pirate or no game/movie/music. so it only makes sense for them to pirate. the mentality is "why pay for something when you can get it for free"

Practically every gamer I met so far pirates regularly. And yes its very beneficial to have those as friends. You dont feel any guilt...only a big sense of accomplishment.

Well here is a solution, just don't buy games, it's nothing more then entertainment, how the hell are you so entitled to it you would steal it from someone else?

The point being that he'd never buy the game because he can't afford it. Follow that through, and you get that; yes, he has no right to have the game, but because he wouldn't ever get the game in the first place what bloody difference does it make? Either way, the developer gets no money.

 

[Tharwen]

The logic behind piracy is that it doesn't cost a company any money to produce an individual digital copy of a game, so you don't remove any of the value of the game from a company's profit. Anyway, I'm now against piracy for the following reason:

I don't like DRM. It's extremely hypocritical to complain about DRM while still pirating.

 

[NeutralDrow]

The only time a support the illegal downloading of games is when the game is not available by any other means. And those games do exist.

My only reason.

...well, one of my two only reasons. The other being that I actually do own the game, but I've lost the CDs.

But the chances that said game is not for sale somewhere on the net are slim.

If all that's left is an overpriced used copy because the game itself has been out of print for years, I'll still torrent it.

 

[Cody211282]

I would still classify it as stealing, you are taking something that's not your and not paying for it easy enough. And for your description of the car scenario if I didn't want the breaking feature I would buy the car then modify it myself, or go and find another car that didn't have that feature, see how easy that is. Still the morels behind pirating a game doesn't exist, your doing it to be self serving and because you think you deserve something without having to work for it.

You're not taking it though, that's the point. You aren't removing it.

The point I was drawing out wasn't about the brakes in particular, it was more to pull out that if someone offers you a better version of the car for free, common sense would dictate that you take it.

Oh, and as for appealing to my morality? I took that out back and shot it years ago. It just gets in the way.

yes you are not removing it but you did manage to get something, that someone else made and you put zero resources into, for nothing and that is stealing.

And you fail to realize that the thing with the car is more complex then what your saying it is, those pieces didn't come from a magic wand someone somewhere payed for them, that guy stole the pieces and is now doing what he wants with them, and by you taking or buying anything from him you are supporting him.

And I hate to say it but the basic understanding of right and wrong is essential for a civilization to survive(hell even a small community) because if everyone just did what every they want then killings and destruction would be happening all over the place.

 

[Enigmers]

[HEADING=2]EVEN IF YOU OWN THE GAME, DOWNLOADING A ROM OF IT IS STILL ILLEGAL![/HEADING]

Well colour me a pirate then because I pirate games I already own!

 

[Motiv_]

I haven't torrented a game in years. But, according to my friends, who torrent all the time, note how the games with the strictest DRM become the most torrented games of the year.

Examples.
Spore.
MW2.
Assassin's Creed also had a high download rate last time I checked. Do companies not notice that when they have these bullshit DRM features, all it does is piss off legitimate customers? I legitimately bought a copy of Assassin's Creed 2, installed it, and returned it an hour later. Not because the game itself was bad, the game was great, but because due to my faulty internet, I played for a total of about 10 minutes.

Battlefield Bad Company 2, however, is a game that I absolutely loved. You can either stay connected to the internet, OR keep the disc in the drive. I love it!

So while I don't condone torrenting, I'm not condemning those who torrent either.

I dont torrent/download, But i also think its dumb that people who pirate get a BETTER version of the game (No bs drm), Companys dont seem to see that;

1. Drm makes people WANT to pirate.

2. It will be cracked with in a week 99% of the time.

3. They lose money and time createing drm that gets insta cracked.

It just seems so dumb to me that companys still waste money on this crap.

Kudos man, it's like you were reading my mind. I used to LOVE Ubisoft back in the Rainbow 6 and Splinter Cell days, but now I refuse to give them any of my money. You want to treat me like a criminal? No, fuck you, I don't torrent your games, I don't deserve to be treated like I do.

 

[cryogeist]

people pirate games becuase why pay when you can get it for free

 

[Cody211282]

Well...let me explain from an Arabian country's perspective.

Downloading an original game would cost zero thanks to the unlimited net connection, while buying an original game(100 bucks max) would cost what I used to pay to study one subject(local price) in the national University.

also, that is equal to a month's food costs for a person. So what to do when companies treat you like a golden goose? Pirate the game which you cant afford.

From meeting people in my high school and Uni....about 100% will pirate instead of depriving themselves from food. its either pirate or no game/movie/music. so it only makes sense for them to pirate. the mentality is "why pay for something when you can get it for free"

Practically every gamer I met so far pirates regularly. And yes its very beneficial to have those as friends. You dont feel any guilt...only a big sense of accomplishment.

Well here is a solution, just don't buy games, it's nothing more then entertainment, how the hell are you so entitled to it you would steal it from someone else?

The point being that he'd never buy the game because he can't afford it. Follow that through, and you get that; yes, he has no right to have the game, but because he wouldn't ever get the game in the first place what bloody difference does it make? Either way, the developer gets no money.

The difference is they are breaking the law to get something they doesn't deserve and should be punish accordingly. If you cant afford it to bad, get a better job or improve your living situation until you can, and if that is the reason they shouldn't be playing games anyway.