Why do Vegetarians get so much hate?

[Cowabungaa]

Also the argument that Humans aren't natural herbivores is under massive debate as were the only animals that have to cook our food to be able to eat it.

No we don't have to, ever heard of steak tartar? There is no doubt that we are not natural herbivores, we simply aren't build for it. Not only our teeth show that, but especially our digestive tracks. Just look at gorilla's, they are herbivores, and take a look at their gut. It's massive. There is no doubt that humans are omnivores. But what IS forgotten, is that animal protein (that doesn't just include mammal meat, but everything: birds, insects, eggs, fish, etc) is just a side dish. We eat too much of it most of the time. That's why a veggie diet isn't perse more healthy, and I see no reason why it would be more healthy than our natural diet. Thing is, the diet most people have now is not our natural diet, so it's kinda hard to compare.

Anyway, I usually have no problem with veggies (my cousin acts like a douche because of it though, it also clearly made his health worse) themselfs, it's just the concept of vegitarianism and especially veganism I dislike a lot. It's like humans would be too good to accept their natural role on this planet. It feels...smug, to me, very pretentious. I eat meat, I like it a LOT, but I love animals at the same time. I compare my own thoughts about this with the original North American indians: I respect my food. I don't see the point in becoming a veggie. Humans aren't veggie creatures, so why would I?

 

[Bagaloo]

Decent points, Statistically speaking every Vegetarian saves roughly 100 animals per year.
Yes animals do die in grazing for vegetables, but i'm not stupid enough to let myself starve to death. Im not trying to Change the world, its more or less about just not being involved in the actual cruelty. However i give no one flack for their personal choice, but animal cruelty is an issue, you can't just say its not, but we are in a world full of issues so its easy to bypass it for something more relate-able like slave labor and Abortion. As for half assed? I don't see how not eating meat can be half assed, unless they eat is occasionally and don't tell anyone but its pretty black and white, you either eat it or you don't.

Also, Pointing out they're wrong is also kind of grey, when you say that do you mean you tell them their wrong when you find out their vegetarian? or when they start pushing it on you, Cause i am a firm believer it is not anyones place to push anything on anyone else.

So because I eat meat, I'm being cruel to the animals? That sort of argument doesn't fy with me, to put it very crudely; it was dead before I got to it, and I didn't torture it to death.

I don't think you'll be able to find many meat-eaters who actually slaughter their own dinner.

I don't mind vegetarians, its your choice and all that, but the bolded quote above is just yet another example of the usual "I'm saving the world" pretentious fanfare that seems to acompany it.

 

[Cliff_m85]

Veggies tend to brag about it and try to make carnivores turn herbal. Atleast that's what the hippy college girls are like at my college.

 

[Dys]

Decent points, Statistically speaking every Vegetarian saves roughly 100 animals per year.
Yes animals do die in grazing for vegetables, but i'm not stupid enough to let myself starve to death. Im not trying to Change the world, its more or less about just not being involved in the actual cruelty. However i give no one flack for their personal choice, but animal cruelty is an issue, you can't just say its not, but we are in a world full of issues so its easy to bypass it for something more relate-able like slave labor and Abortion. As for half assed? I don't see how not eating meat can be half assed, unless they eat is occasionally and don't tell anyone but its pretty black and white, you either eat it or you don't.

Also, Pointing out they're wrong is also kind of grey, when you say that do you mean you tell them their wrong when you find out their vegetarian? or when they start pushing it on you, Cause i am a firm believer it is not anyones place to push anything on anyone else.

Guessing that was at me.
Where did you get your statistic about saving 100 lives a year?
Do you have any concept of how many hundreds of billions of insects are killed by the pesticides that are used on crops each year? That statistic is simply wrong, unless we are talking about people who only eat organic, which are a small minority of a larger minority group. I'm not talking about the small percentage who have the money to buy organic fruit and veg, more the ones who naively think they are, as you suggested, saving lives. They are not. Most farms are not cruel, not in any conventional sense anyway. The animals do not suffer, people can choose to eat free range meats, compared to how the rest of the animal kingdom operate, it isn't cool. And lets not forget to account for the hundreds of billions of insects that aren't killed due to the pesticides not being used on livestock.

It's half assed because they assume that stating they are vegitarians and avoiding meat to make themselves feel warm and fuzzy, they think they are somehow helping..something. They are not, how about if you are going to commit to something, you fully commit to it and buy only organic? It's the same as hybrid cars, "look, this is marketed as being better for animals/environment, lets ignore all the evidence that suggests otherwise and blindly follow it so I can feel that I'm doing what's morally right".

When I point out they're wrong, I usually point out that there are more lives lost in farming cops than livestock, they get all upset. I point out that they are wrong in that their actions do not match their morals. I'm no fan of them pushing their beleifs on me, and it usually ends with one of us looking like an idiot (I've had the misfortune of arguaing with someone who only eats organic vegies and fruits, most of which they have grown themselves..I looked like a real dick).

 

[deletemeplease107]

My main issue with it, which they dont seem to understand is, the animal is already dead! If you dont eat it, it will go to waste! So therefore if the animal WAS badly treated, you just wasted him, giving him no purpose what so ever. I dont condone animal cruelty, but not eating the animals that they kill wont help it either.

 

[Not Good]

I don't like food choices. It's either soy-mystery meat or something. Plus there isn't much in the way of taste by cooking standards.

 

[Harlemura]

Because you don't get rid of the cows, which are releasing methane from both ends into the atmosphere. Yes, vegetarians are the cause of global warming.

Okay, seriously, I don't really know. I do see the logic in not wanting to hurt animals... but I also like pork.

 

[PurpleRain]

Also the argument that Humans aren't natural herbivores is under massive debate as were the only animals that have to cook our food to be able to eat it.

Our teeth are for tearing meat. Our stomach is good for digesting vegetables. Omnivores for life!

To the point, I've seen a lot of hate against vegetarians. I lot of people saying that they've had it pushed on them. I know a lot of vegetarians, none of them have pushed it on me, and some I didn't actually know until I was told by some tangent of conversation. None of them care that I eat a lil' meat nor will they protest. I don't know where these vile vege-fanatics are spawning from?

As for PETA, it's like connecting violence like bulling at schools to a war. One's a tad more extreme version. But, I don't mind PETA (shock and horror). They anti-hype annoys me. I heard some sickly facts on them which I frown upon like I would to anyone, but I tend to think, 'at least they're doing something.'

Okay, tangent. Umm... back on topic.

I'll be going vegetarian myself. The reason being my diet to me isn't so important. It is, but I won't go crazy if I don't get my steak! I care that the food that I eat is healthy and tasty. So for me, giving up meat is nothing. I don't know my total effect on the scale of things, but I'd feel better about things.

 

[sky14kemea]

hmm, the vegetarians i know are all rally nice people, at our prom the main meal was chicken, and enough of them protested to get a vegetarian alternative, which i helped out on even though im a full carnivore XD because they weren't insulted the other students for eating meat, they were just saying how it'd be more fair if we had 2 choices of meals

wow, big ramble ^-^ anywho, every vegetarian ive met has been a nice person, so i dont hate them at all, so i have no idea why they get so much hate XD

 

[megapenguinx]

I'll admit I've done my share of vegi hating. I think it was because the first vegetarians I knew were preachy self righteous types. Now it's more like I say, "Ewww weirdo", than anything else. Plus I don't see how vegetarians are any healthier than us omnivores

 

[GRoXERs]

It's less that I dislike their lifestyle choices than that I resent the food I am forced to eat because there is a vegetarian in the group - in a group, you never get to go to a steakhouse or BBQ place because there's a vegetarian who either can't find anything to eat or won't go at all because they serve meat. Then, we end up going to a vegetarian place (Everyone can eat vegetables, right guys?), where I can't eat anything other than bread because I vomit when I eat vegetables or fruit (due to an underdeveloped lower esophageal sphincter when I was little causing me to vomit whenever I ate anything that wasn't incredibly bland - i.e. bread, unseasoned meat, and not much else, resulting in my never having learned to eat vegetables. I am working on learning to eat new things, but it wouldn't be polite to suddenly barf on the table in polite company.)

 

[VitalSigns]

Decent points, Statistically speaking every Vegetarian saves roughly 100 animals per year.
Yes animals do die in grazing for vegetables, but i'm not stupid enough to let myself starve to death. Im not trying to Change the world, its more or less about just not being involved in the actual cruelty. However i give no one flack for their personal choice, but animal cruelty is an issue, you can't just say its not, but we are in a world full of issues so its easy to bypass it for something more relate-able like slave labor and Abortion. As for half assed? I don't see how not eating meat can be half assed, unless they eat is occasionally and don't tell anyone but its pretty black and white, you either eat it or you don't.

Also, Pointing out they're wrong is also kind of grey, when you say that do you mean you tell them their wrong when you find out their vegetarian? or when they start pushing it on you, Cause i am a firm believer it is not anyones place to push anything on anyone else.

So because I eat meat, I'm being cruel to the animals? That sort of argument doesn't fy with me, to put it very crudely; it was dead before I got to it, and I didn't torture it to death.

I don't think you'll be able to find many meat-eaters who actually slaughter their own dinner.

I don't mind vegetarians, its your choice and all that, but the bolded quote above is just yet another example of the usual "I'm saving the world" pretentious fanfare that seems to acompany it.

Im not implying im saving the world at all, there is no pretension other than whatever you have generated yourself, Im not saying your the cruel one, Im saying the slaughterhouses are, they could give these animals better living conditions but don't and that absolutely isn't your fault. Im not even saying you support the cruelty no human with a conscience would. There is a definite disconnection with the animal when you simply go buy a frozen pack of burgers and I wouldn't blame anyone for that. I believe the living conditions are much worse then the actual slaughter process, and I think thats something we can all agree on. I am not an elitist I don't think im better than you based on what you eat, because thats stupid. But it is a cop-out to say "well I didn't kill it". If animals rights doesn't concern you thats fine, Im in a minority that doesn't feel its right, but obviously theres a reason we are a minority. You are NOT a bad person for eating meat.

 

[someguy0]

i think its funny how vegetarians dont eat meat to save animals. if more people didnt eat meat the demand from meat goes down meaning the prices of meat go down. hmm will farmers keep there animals when there not worth as much, will they keep them and pay to keep them alive from good will or will they do the correct business choice and get rid of them before there worth nothing. eventually animals wont be keep at all if no one buys the meat. thats just what happens when you break a food chain. i guess vegetarians save the animals by making there existence pointless so they all die out in stead of being 'murdered'.

 

[VitalSigns]

i think its funny how vegetarians dont eat meat to save animals. if more people didnt eat meat the demand from meat goes down meaning the prices of meat go down. hmm will farmers keep there animals when there not worth much, will they keep them the pay to keep them alive from good will or will they do the correct business choice and get rid of them before there worth nothing. eventually animals wont be keep at all if no one buys the meat. thats just what happens when you break a food chain.

Im not being vegetarian so that there is a mass amount of cattle walking around, animals are bred to slaughter, less demand for meat, less animals bred to slaughter. I would prefer it to not be born than to be born into a slaughterhouse.

 

[halodude155]

My main issue with it, which they dont seem to understand is, the animal is already dead! If you dont eat it, it will go to waste! So therefore if the animal WAS badly treated, you just wasted him, giving him no purpose what so ever. I dont condone animal cruelty, but not eating the animals that they kill wont help it either.

The problem with this is that the only reason animals keep getting killed is because people like you buy the meat, which gives them more money to raise and kill more cows.

And also, in case you guys forgot the original argument, there is a lot of hate because

1. When meat-eaters assault us for not eating meat and spitting on our beliefs, we get pissy as any normal person would.

2. There are many people who are elite by default, and this certainly comes out when people get pissy. This means that some vegitarians HAPPEN to be elitest.

3. This creates a steryotype that all vegitarians are elitest pricks, which creates more hate to them, which activates the vegi-elitests, creating more hate etc...

 

[Specter_]

The whole pretientious "lets save the animals" thing doesn't work, most of them are completely ignorant and half assed in their approach. Not eating animals isn't necissarily stopping more of them from dying, it's naive to eat mass produced vegies, drenched in pesticides from large farms halfway accross the planet and think you are saving animals, the real workd doesn't work like that.

Also most vegitarians are preachy, and get all offended when I point out that their eleitism is naive, childish and unjustified.

What this person said (too tired to look up gender).

But it's not really the vegetarians I dish my hate out to (as long as they leave me alone). It's mostly vegans, who think their farts smell of roses because they eat no animal products (but consume animal products in other ways) and tell me that I "killed Bambi" (I did and it was delicious).

Basically I don't give a fuck about what you eat, as long as you leave me alone. It's the same for all people I know (I tend to get rid of people who preach to other people).

 

[halodude155]

Basically I don't give a fuck about what you eat, as long as you leave me alone. It's the same for all people I know (I tend to get rid of people who preach to other people).

Exactly how I feel about people who eat meat

 

[scott91575]

It's sad, but you're only getting all that because of the vegetarians who are loud, obnoxious and preachy. Also because they're a little ignorant of your choice (like "How do you get protein then??" Idiots... Meat isn't the only protein food source in the world).

Well, its different types of protein than in meat, and the quantities are generally smaller based on regular portion sizes...
I mean, you can make a balanced vegetarian diet, its just that its a whole lot more difficult. Humans aren't herbivores by design.

I wouldn't know specifically since I'm not a vegetarian, but I just know that protein isn't restricted to meat.

Personally, I think that cutting out a whole category of natural food sources isn't really good; Variety is the key. There are foods from each group/category that contain nutrients not found in the others, so diversifying is best.

Best source of protein in the world is Falafel.

Also the argument that Humans aren't natural herbivores is under massive debate as were the only animals that have to cook our food to be able to eat it.

Humans do not need to cook beef, fish, eggs etc. to eat it. Poor argument. Cooking is normally done for taste and in certain instances to kill bacteria (like poultry). Yet humans can digest raw food just fine. In fact many people prefer close to raw beef (in some case completely raw beef - see steak tartare) and completely raw fish (see sashimi, sushi, etc).