Why do we hate Justin Beiber?

[Nazulu]

I don't hate him but I believe he shouldn't be successful. I can't wait for this nothing to die off though. I'm fucking sick of hearing that song every day (I haven't heard any of his other songs) and it's because the girls in my class are obsessed with him. It's not for his so called "talents" either, it's because they think he's pretty, that's actually what they said.

Even if it was a song I love, I would still get tired of hearing it day to day, 1000 times is enough for anyone.

 

[soperg]

I fucking hate anyone who abuses autotune. Also I hate any song that contains no more than twelve words.
Repeated over and over, especially when they're said in the SAME FUCKING TONE. Autotune is a tool used to perfect. Not create. Maybe in an ironic way, like the bed intruder song. But never EVER as an actually mass published art piece. So that would be most of the reasons I hate Justin. Oh, and he's whoring himself out to those proactive people. Abusing your power over teenaged girls like that is not only in poor taste, but pisses people like me off because they don't just use real offing people. Jeez. Bring in people from the streets and give them however much proactive you use in three months and give it to them and get THEM to hock your product. It's easier to trust them

 

[Small Waves]

1. Because it shows just how little of a fuck big labelheads care about subtly. At least back when they were choking us by shoving an artist they at least introduced them at a slow head, but with Bieber, they administered that IV Push at Godspeed, and if we keep putting up with it, they'll do it again by turning some other kid from nobody to worldwide sensation overnight.

2. Even by pop standards, he is shit-tier.

 

[Purple Shrimp]

I fucking hate anyone who abuses autotune. Also I hate any song that contains no more than twelve words.

you hate all of classical and jazz?

 

[Lucifron]

ITT: Lots and lots of amateur psychologists.

How about this: I despise Justin Bieber because his music sucks and that he is basically a biological Garage Band cash cow, thereby personifying everything that is wrong with the entire music industry?

 

[Escapefromwhatever]

He sounds like a chimpmunk on helium and floods the radio when I am trying to listen to good songs.

 

[Scarecrow]

He's untalented, never suffered for his art, doesn't know that he is in WAY over his head, thinks he's better than he really is, has no charisma, is generally unlikable, had a career handed to him on silver platter, and has a high annoying voice for singing bland uninteresting music.
I think that was the longest I've ever typed about him without going into a long incoherent mess of insults.
and this video makes me happy
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HOORAY FOR AFTER-EFFECTS!

Pretty much that.

And on a side note, that video is one of the funnest things I've seen in a long time.

 

[firefly000]

I speak as someone who makes a living performing and creating music. He's hated partly because of all the facts like he is a kid, looks like a girl etc but for someone like me the main reason is, people like him are the reason the music industry sucks. Although music and it's enjoyment is completely unique to the individual, watching someone like Justin Beiber who actually does not have musical talent or skills annoys a large portion of the population.

Have you heard his songs? He dosent actually have a good voice so he requires auto-tune, also the other underlying parts are just repeated sounds that are simple and could be made in less than a minute using today's tools. Frankly I think he dosent really deserve the money he gets, but I suppose that's just me raging.

 

[Iron Mal]

I think the main reason we hate him isn't because of what he is but because of what he represents and how his rabid fan base reflects this.

He's not talented and seems to have obtained his popularity purely as a result of stage presence and 'brand appeal' (he is famous because he is famous), he doesn't have to be a talented singer, he doesn't have to be a talented lyricist, he doesn't even have to be a talented musician.

A certain demographic of girls find him 'cute' and 'dreamy' therefore he is famous, he is an excellent example of apperance over substance and the large fanbase who rabidly defend him from criticism serve as a painfully annoying reminder of this.

 

[BonsaiK]

You could make, for example, dead baby jokes with friends and they'd all laugh. Would you make those jokes with a random stranger, who may get offended by them? You wouldn't.

That's quite an assumption! Recently I went onto a stage and deliberately did exactly this with the intent of polarising the audience. It worked. Half of them loved it and the other half booed and told me to get off. Then they started fighting with each other. I couldn't have asked for a better response.

So even if his outburst wasn't an immature apeshit scenario, he still shouldn't have said it.

Arguably not, but then she shouldn't have touched him, it's not a floor manager's job to get "hands on" with the clientele. Also, put the incident in context with this article:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entertainment/sydney-confidential/sydney-girls-meet-their-teen-idol-justin-bieber-and-touch-his-hair-face/story-e6frewz0-1225858659362

Now imagine a conversation between the floor manager and her teenage daughter later on at home over "who got to touch Justin, and who's just got pictures up on her bedroom wall" and you might start to get an inkling about why this might be a sore point.

As I was discussing earlier, people in the media spotlight as much as Justin have everything blown out of proportion - both good and bad. This guy is used to millions of people placing extreme importance on the idea of touching him, that's some pretty serious objectification there that absolutely dwarfs what most supposedly objectified pornstars experience, just for example. Whether people want to touch him because they adore him, or want to brag about "I touched Justin" to their friends, or dream about touching their fist into his face because they don't like him, what's happening right now to Justin is he's becoming a guy who is very accustomed to everyone wanting a piece of him (positive or negative). This happens to anyone even mildly famous but to someone as famous as Justin it means you have to deal with multiple people every single day who all have an agenda for you that involves their own ego and their own perception of who you are, based purely on media, peer-pressure hate/love and hearsay. Suddenly, you don't know who to trust, you don't know whether people's actions toward you are motivated by the normal sort of things that they are, or because of their media-dictated perceptions of you. That kind of thing causes erratic bevaiour in everybody who experiences it at its most intense level. Michael Jackson, Britney Spears, Madonna, Elvis Presley, The Beatles and many others have all done things which seemed batshit insane at the time when looking at it from the outside through the tabloid lens. If this forum was active in 1963 we'd be having Beatles hate threads, Beatles why-all-the-hate threads, and condemnations about everything they did, from arguing with each other in interviews, to their ridiculous (for the time) dress sense and hair (think about how Lady Gaga is perceived now, that's how The Beatles were perceived back then), and how their music is just a bunch of screaming nonsense aimed at teenage girls. Look how we don't learn from history.

 

[soperg]

I dont know....maybe it's because all of his songs suck so very much?

Are we an item? Girl, quit playin'
"We're just friends," what are you sayin'?
Said "there's another," and looked right in my eyes
My first love broke my heart for the first time

And I was like baby, baby, baby, oh
Like baby, baby, baby, no
Like baby, baby, baby, oh
I thought you'd always be mine, mine

Baby, baby, baby, oh
Like baby, baby, baby, no
Like baby, baby, baby, oh
I thought you'd always be mine, mine

STOP STARTING SENTANCES WITH LIKE!!!!!!

Does anyone want to translate that into some sort of legitimate english for me? Also he's what 14? What does he know about love? Yes yes i know all the kids these days say they are in love but seriously can anyone on here over the age of 21 say that they where REALLY in love back when they were 13-14?

He's just playing on the feelings of pre-teen girls to make money out of them and it's a little exploitative imo.

Plenty of other reasons will follow im sure.

Speaking of legit english, sentences. It's really easy to spell and I'm pretty sure your auto check caught it. As for what you've said, I couldn't agree more. Also the abuse out autotune must stop here.

 

[Karma168]

he pretty much summarises what is wrong with the mainstream music industry atm. cheesy generic music, personality of a rock, etc.

It's not Bieber we hate, it's what he represents; the complete generic collapse of music, because he made it big the charts will now be flooded with copy cat artists who bring nothing to music and this stops actual talent from other genres of music (i.e metal) from getting a chance at a wider audience.

 

[Averant]

Well, let me think.

Looks like a douche.
Acts like a douche.
Sounds like a douche.

Hmmmm.

Maybe he's a douche?


EDIT: And his fanbase. I don't mind fanbases. Fanbases are good. They get you sales, popularity, etc. But when you have a fangirl base, and ONLY a fangirl base, THAT is when things go wrong. I despise anything that has such an effect on such a large amount of females, because it makes them insane. Have you ever seen a pack of raving fangirls? The ferocity skyrockets while the IQ goes negative. It's disgusting. Sending death threats because you can't have it yourself? Simply disgusting.

EDIT2X: His VOICE. He's sixteen, he still hasn't dropped an octave? Moreso, his song material. He's sixteen, the hell would he know about love? I'm sixteen, I don't know shit about love.

Ah, nevermind. there's too much to list, too much wrong with him. I'll just say this:

He's too popular. He's now so mainstream that what he does has now lost its heart, if it ever had any. He's not singing to sing, he's singing to get money, and that's something I dislike severely. If you can't walk across the street without being mobbed, there's something wrong. Something wrong with them, something wrong with you for making them that way. Popularity is starting to become the antithesis of quality.

That is why Justin Beiber is hated.

 

[BonsaiK]

he pretty much summarises what is wrong with the mainstream music industry atm. cheesy generic music, personality of a rock, etc.

It's not Bieber we hate, it's what he represents; the complete generic collapse of music, because he made it big the charts will now be flooded with copy cat artists who bring nothing to music and this stops actual talent from other genres of music (i.e metal) from getting a chance at a wider audience.

People said exactly the same thing about Elvis Presley when he came out with his first hits.

I speak as someone who makes a living performing and creating music. He's hated partly because of all the facts like he is a kid, looks like a girl etc but for someone like me the main reason is, people like him are the reason the music industry sucks. Although music and it's enjoyment is completely unique to the individual, watching someone like Justin Beiber who actually does not have musical talent or skills annoys a large portion of the population.

Have you heard his songs? He dosent actually have a good voice so he requires auto-tune, also the other underlying parts are just repeated sounds that are simple and could be made in less than a minute using today's tools. Frankly I think he dosent really deserve the money he gets, but I suppose that's just me raging.

As someone who makes a living performing and creating music, you know that you're raging because you're jealous and what you're saying really isn't true.

He doesn't need Autotune, he's using it because it's popular. Same reason most of the big artists are using it right now. Here's him singing without any electronic help at all:


Sure, the song's only two chords, but then so is this song:


Simple doesn't automatically mean bad. Sometimes getting straight to the point is preferable to beating around the bush.

 

[Bernzz]

-big snip-

My general point is, you did to intentionally polarise your audience. Him, being who he is, wouldn't want his audience polarised. He'd want everyone as a fan. And saying "Don't fucking touch me!" to a stranger isn't what you do when you want good publicity. Which he no doubt does.

However, if he simply doesn't care what people think about him, then he's being arrogant. And I don't like arrogant people. Which is why I don't like him for that incident.

Oh, and the fact that he lied about it afterwards, even though...seven or so people confirmed that he did it? Yeah. I don't like liars, either. I mean, c'mon, you're gonna get caught. Own up to it, don't be immature and deny it.

 

[Astoria]

-snip-

You can't be seriously comparing Justin Beieber to some of the greatest artists of all time. We aren't talking about him doing something insane, this is about simple manners. It doesn't matter how famous or powerful you are it is wrong to swear at someone when they are simply trying to do their job and when you mess up you apologise like any decent person would. It is the fact that he not only swore for next to no reason but that he also denies it that makes him arrogant. As far as I'm concerned he is a spoilt brat who doesn't deserve the amount of fame he has.

 

[BonsaiK]

-big snip-

My general point is, you did to intentionally polarise your audience. Him, being who he is, wouldn't want his audience polarised. He'd want everyone as a fan. And saying "Don't fucking touch me!" to a stranger isn't what you do when you want good publicity. Which he no doubt does.

I agree. And yes, that's why him and his publicity machine is now lying about it.

So he fucked up. Big deal. He's 16. I sure did a lot of stupid shit when I was 16, the only difference was there wasn't a media machine to record all my dumb shit and relay it to a world of haters who don't even personally know me all lining up to take a dump on my ass.

 

[soperg]

I fucking hate anyone who abuses autotune. Also I hate any song that contains no more than twelve words.

you hate all of classical and jazz?

You just quoted.me out of context. I hate songs with twelve words or less repeated in the same tone. Jazz at least mixes up the tune, or at least the.background music

 

[Bernzz]

-big snip-

My general point is, you did to intentionally polarise your audience. Him, being who he is, wouldn't want his audience polarised. He'd want everyone as a fan. And saying "Don't fucking touch me!" to a stranger isn't what you do when you want good publicity. Which he no doubt does.

I agree. And yes, that's why him and his publicity machine is now lying about it.

So he fucked up. Big deal. He's 16. I sure did a lot of stupid shit when I was 16, the only difference was there wasn't a media machine to record all my dumb shit and relay it to a world of haters who don't even personally know me all lining up to take a dump on my ass.

I'm not lining up to take a dump on his ass. I'm simply stating one of the reasons why I dislike him, which is what this thread is for.