No hate from me, but he's kind of boring. When you start Dragon Age it's like "Hm, might this person be interesting? Oh no, it's just Alistair. Sorry, Alistair, thought for a second you were someone interesting."
Why does everyone hate Alistair?
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Amnestic said:
A valid argument were Loghain actually a good commander. But he was not. His sole military achievements were siding with Maric and becoming one of the 2 teryn's through virtue of friendship. He then proceeded to flat out deny the staus of a blight, cripple the morale of the nation with Cailan's death, risk an all out civil war, place a bounty on the head of the Grey Wardens and let his arrogance and bitterness stop Orlaisian reinforces from entering Fereldan. He even went so far as to say that the Landsmeet had no right to voice their opinion because they weren't veterans like him. When you're dealing with a fuedal system, you do not belittle the barony in a time of crisis.
When a man that incompetant, arrogant and hidebound is considered for a place within your brotherhood, your family, the man who has already killed your, to all intents and purposes, father, you have every right to complain. I would have liked a chance to say "Your sword, your shield, see you on the frontline" but you can hardly blame anyone for expecting foul play from him.
What's more, his position would have been seriously compromised, as in he'd be burned at the stake, once word got out that he had hired a blood mage to assassinate Eamon. A nation ruled by church as much as crown, and he hired a bloodmage to perform assassinations.
When a man that incompetant, arrogant and hidebound is considered for a place within your brotherhood, your family, the man who has already killed your, to all intents and purposes, father, you have every right to complain. I would have liked a chance to say "Your sword, your shield, see you on the frontline" but you can hardly blame anyone for expecting foul play from him.
What's more, his position would have been seriously compromised, as in he'd be burned at the stake, once word got out that he had hired a blood mage to assassinate Eamon. A nation ruled by church as much as crown, and he hired a bloodmage to perform assassinations.
Spoiler blocked because I ended up ranting, but in short: Loghain was useless, Alistair had every right to put his vengeance before keeping him alive.
OT: Alistair was one of my favourite characters. I kept him in the group for tanking, but out of the party I think he was one of the best characters. Wynne's likable, but she has too much history to really expand on it all, so she's shallow (On a subject to subject basis).
I disagree with your viewpoint, but I suppose it makes sense.GruntOwner said:
In which case, Alistair should have settled for having his vengeance by either having Loghain die via the Joining or by dealing the final blow to the Archdemon.
Seriously, they're given a Get Out of Death Free card in the form of Loghain and Alistair goes ahead and kills him. I was tempted to make Alistair bite the bullet for that monumental fuckup. He makes his bed and now he gets to die in it.
I liked him. Until a point in the game were I found out the witty banter we were sharing, which I thought was all in good fun, actaully made is approval rating of me down.
People are assuming he has a fixed character in the game.
Alistair wanted to be king in mine and he sacrificed himself in the end as it was the only way as I made other decisions that left a certain major option out as that character left.
Great guy, good friend, hero to Ferelden.
Alistair wanted to be king in mine and he sacrificed himself in the end as it was the only way as I made other decisions that left a certain major option out as that character left.
Great guy, good friend, hero to Ferelden.
He's not my most hated character ever... No Carth and Kaiden are tied for that (Damn them to hell!!!!! I just wish I could've killed Carth too!).
No, he narrowly avoids that spot because he puts a twist on the standard issue annoying good guy. He is legitimately funny at times and doesn't always want you to do the saintly option... but most of the time he indeed does want you to.
No, he narrowly avoids that spot because he puts a twist on the standard issue annoying good guy. He is legitimately funny at times and doesn't always want you to do the saintly option... but most of the time he indeed does want you to.
I love Alistair. He's got a good voice actor with the ability to deliver those punchy lines believably. I like the level of charm he has when playing a female character as well, the lines come off believably, again, kudos to the voice actor. My husband really likes his amusing wit as well and it breaks up the Darwinistic attitudes of Morrigan and Sten.
So, I haven't heard anything about people "hating Alistair". But not everyone likes a comedian so I'm sure there are those who find the character's style abrasive. But I would think that Morrigan and Sten would then give the "darker/gritter" feel the player might be looking for. I'm grateful that most of the characters are well-developed and have distinct personalities. What with the long treks through the dungeons it really helps.
But then again, I really liked listening to the older lady at the chantry talk about "those who bring ham without provocation will be breaded by the Maker". Hee hee hee.
So, I haven't heard anything about people "hating Alistair". But not everyone likes a comedian so I'm sure there are those who find the character's style abrasive. But I would think that Morrigan and Sten would then give the "darker/gritter" feel the player might be looking for. I'm grateful that most of the characters are well-developed and have distinct personalities. What with the long treks through the dungeons it really helps.
But then again, I really liked listening to the older lady at the chantry talk about "those who bring ham without provocation will be breaded by the Maker". Hee hee hee.
Were he less of an ass, I'd agree, but there's only so much that you can do before you stop deserving a martyrdom. The plan was already for the Orlaisian to deal the final blow (Not entirely sure why, you'd think that his expertise would be required to perform the joining) with you and Alistair as a backup. Alistair dying with his vengeance quenched and in a manner fit for his only real family seems a far happier ending than "The ignorant masses treat this nut as a hero, you and your party are remembered for a righteous bugger all and the Wardens are still mistrusted". I'd also like to add "Agreeing to grant Howe the terynhood of Highevar once he came to power, even though Howe was responsible for some atrocious military blunders during the rebellion" to my "Loghain was a waste of biomass" argument.Amnestic said: