Why does everyone hate Alistair?

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nightwolf667

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klakkat said:
Atton I liked better though, because he was a hell of a lot more clever, competent, and tough than he appeared
That's cause Atton wasn't a Bioware character.

On topic, Alistair is fine (other than being a complete Xander rip off) but that character really has no business being in that particular setting. Much as I liked him, he seemed out of place.
 

Flamezdudes

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He's very whiny, a perfect example is whatever you choose in the Redcliffe main quest he says "HOW COULD YOU DO THAT!?!?!?!"
 

Amnestic

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Flamezdudes said:
He's very whiny, a perfect example is whatever you choose in the Redcliffe main quest he says "HOW COULD YOU DO THAT!?!?!?!"
Unless you choose to do the right thing, also known as "Recruiting the Circle of Magi to put a mage (yourself if possible, Morrigan, Wynne or Irving if you can convince him) in the Fade and then getting rid of the demon." in which case he's all "Good job CHARNAME! You my homeboy."
 

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GloatingSwine said:
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I don't. Mostly because he's the first Bioware male lead NPC to be Not Carth. (Or Anomen, who was even worse.)
Kaiden?
Carth. Same voice, same "woe is me" backstory. Carth.
Didn't have nearly such a big stick up his jacksy though (I preferred Atton to Carth in KOTOR, but I guess he was written by others than Bioware, so.....) I love Kaiden he was honest, humble, loyal and honourable! Plus he wasn't angry (yes, Jacob you heard me)
OT I also love Alistair and wasn't aware that anyone could think he was anything but 'win'! :-O
 

Jovlo

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You should see the Alistair fanclub on facebook.
Rabid fangirls everywhere. He's very popular with the ladies.
I think I never cared more for a party member than for Alistair.

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=176011852877&ref=ts
 

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One of my roommates played DA:O, and he was kind of iffy with Alistair. He tends to go for the more renegade/evil options, though, so that may have had something to do with it. I think it was also about how his AI (at least for my roommate) seemed to be less than willing to stay alive. Still, he kept Alistair with him, so he couldn't have been that much of a problem.
 

MurderousToaster

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I found him funny. I don't know why people would dislike him. He's an overall well-shaped character (Even if his suspicious nature can get a bit annoying)
 

Grampy_bone

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Alistair is the true protagonist of Dragon Age. It really comes through with the writing, in how most of the big events revolve around him in some way. The head writer for the game has said that Alistair is his favorite character, and I agree.
 

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I love Alistair. He's my party's tank. There's been a couple occasions when I've somehow let the rest of the team die and he's just been there shield bashing his way through the hordes and smiting them.
 

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I don't like him because he's such a pussy, the only badass in the game besides me is Morrigan, or maybe Zevran. Ohhh Duncan boo hoo
 

Mother Yeti

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Amnestic said:
I can. He's a Grey Warden. He should recognise that saving Ferelden and the rest of the world from the BDarkspawn comes first. When they're on our doorstep having already obliterated most of the southern end of the country, now is not the time to be getting all pissy for revenge against one of the best military leaders the country has.
By then your party has already on its own managed to kill massive numbers of darkspawn, united the factions of Ferelden by solving about a dozen intractable problems, not to mention outsmarted Loghain himself multiple times. I think Alistair can be forgiven for not thinking Loghain necessary at that point.
 

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Amnestic said:
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Plus, turning down Sarevok because he's a fighter is crazy. He's one of the most powerful characters in the game. His Deathbringer attack thing can hit for 150-250 damage when it connects. Chuck an improved haste on the party, have him Greater Whirlwind, spec him into Halberds and give him the Ravager+6 and watch him tear the shit out of everything that stands in your way. He's an absolute beast.
Then cast one Dragon's Breath and watch everything on screen die all at once. Or, y'know, when the Time Stop finishes and they actually get to do something.

Mages scale up far higher than fighters, even fighters with fancy specials. Forget Sarevok, Imoen is the real beast of the family.
As a pure-class mage, I was the real beast of the family thank you very much.

A Robe of Vecna and Staff of the Magi helped as well.

So yes, mages scale better, but unless you're going for a party of Bhaalspawn(as Mage or Sorcerer), Imoen, Nalia, Jan, Edwin and Aerie which frankly I think is a smelly setup, you're probably going to have one or two melee fighter guys in there. May as well have Sarevok.
Fun times with Robe of Vecna and Improved Alacrity. KaBOOM! That's how to nova. I didn't go with Sarevok because I liked my other party members too much. Comraderie over power. I do agree that you have to have some melee party in there to take the punches while your mages kill everything. Also I find that most monsters in the late game are extraordinarily well-prepared against magic, with all their chain-contingencies cast and ready. Even with two mages flinging Breach and Pierce Magic left and right it can still be hard to get through.
I found the general lack of thieves for your party irritating. The only full one dies. Backstabbing mages is one of the easiest ways of getting rid of them.


Alistair I think is a well-rounded character, who I enjoyed having in my party. Witty remarks, yet still indicative that he understands what's going on and doesn't really take it lightly. Right now I'm tanking as a sword/shield fighter though, so I switched him out so I don't duplicate his abilities.

I really don't mind Morrigan much either. I originally liked Leliana more, but after listening to her conversations with Morrigan about the Maker... Morrigan sounded entirely like she didn't want to talk about it, but Leliana kept bringing up how she pitied Morrigan for not knowing His love, in a display that was just as condescending than Morrigan's ever been. I don't imagine you'd have great personal skills if your mother was an Abomination and you were raised in the dangerous wilds. Leliana's grown up around people, and even trained in manipulating them. She has no excuse for being bitchy and preachy. Also she talks about shoes way too much.

If you befriend Morrigan, you'll find she acts very differently towards you. It becomes clear that she's never had a friend. She typically only observed them before you came along. She too has some depth to her, if you can get past the outer layer of bitchiness. Being alone because that's what she's used to doesn't make her emo. Complaining about helping others because that's how she was raised doesn't make her emo. Slowly changing how she feels about people through your friendship with her seems meaningful.
 

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I didn't hate him. He was funny, and he always distracted the enemy long enough for me to do horrific things to them.
 

GundamSentinel

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I like Alistair. He makes good conversation and is a decent fellow. I plain hate Morrigan, but maybe that's just me.
 

Magnikai

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"You're some sort of sneaky....witch thief!"

I loved Alister. He is hilarious. The back and forth between him and Morrigan actually made me want to stop and hear them.