Why does everyone hate Halo 3?

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TerraMGP

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Woe Is You said:
TerraMGP said:
Multiplaying more-luck-than-skill games
I don't think that's a terribly accurate description of Halo or any FPS game in general. Especially not the first one, which wasn't primarily a multiplayer game to begin with.

Based on your posts, I can tell you this much: your elitism is just as misplaced as the elitism by the Halo fanboys you're bashing for not accepting casual games.
Not all FPS games but many fames based on halo including Halo. There are plenty of good FPS games too though I don't personally enjoy them, Halo I just don't count as one of them and It seems to me like the people who love such games now label themselves 'hardcore' and act upset because of 'casual' gamers as they call them. So fine if they can't get over it and accept that the people can be gamers in spite of the fact that it hurts the market in terms of making games they like, why shouldn't I dig up my old disdain for them? Its an object lesson
 

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Been here...seen that.
Because almost every game copied Halo. I'm not a fanboy of Halo, but it's easy to see, look at all the games with regenerative health, 2 guns only and many vehicles back in 2001, not many. Then when Halo came out, they all had it. I believe it's average because every idea it has had has been ripped off.

You can, however, only like Halo 3 if you played the other 2 when they came out. It's to late now.
 

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As a game it really is pretty good, however it is not the best game ever as some people will have you believe and it has the worst online community on XBL atm.
 

Woe Is You

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TerraMGP said:
So fine if they can't get over it and accept that the people can be gamers in spite of the fact that it hurts the market in terms of making games they like, why shouldn't I dig up my old disdain for them? Its an object lesson
Not so much a lesson, but a way of showing that you're just as idiotic as the guys you're accusing of being idiots.
 

TerraMGP

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Woe Is You said:
TerraMGP said:
So fine if they can't get over it and accept that the people can be gamers in spite of the fact that it hurts the market in terms of making games they like, why shouldn't I dig up my old disdain for them? Its an object lesson
Not so much a lesson, but a way of showing that you're just as idiotic as the guys you're accusing of being idiots.
I am simply pointing out that people could act the same way towards them. You know I will admit I complained a bit when Halo clones drowned out games like the Megaman Legends series and the second Deus ex game sucked but for the most part I accepted thats how the industry works. I am simply trying to show them that this is not the first time something like this has happned, and that many of these so called 'hardcore' gamers came into it destroying games many gamers from before then liked.

I guess what i'm saying is I am more saying "don't pick on the Newbies, you were one too once"
 

drollins32

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First off

The fact that 80 percent of the people who posted here had nothing but negative comments on the game (considering it's thought of as revolutionary, and being called average), just shows that people just want to degrade the game.

The worst thing I've heard though was it being called simplistic.

You shittin' me?

It's the only FPS on console where you can be attacked from the back, but if you're better than the person, can turn around and kill him before he kills you.

Halo 1,2 and 3 are the most talent required shooting games that exist on the console (if not any video game)

Any Halo player that's decent can pick up a Call of Duty 4 game and be great at it in 10 games. Any COD player who's never played Halo would suck after 200, believe me I know I play both, and I averaged 17 kills a game on COD after 10 games.


Oh and the Regen, Bubble shield, and Energy drain were in Halo 1,2 right? Those totally changed the way the game is played.




The only reason people hate it is because they sign on Xbox live, having never played online, but think they are good, and get 2 kills 17 deaths, and it totally turns them off of it. I know the campaign sucks, I've beat it once......on easy, havent tried it since, but it's all about the multiplayer.
 

INF1NIT3 D00M

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If one of the requirements to be cool in gaming circles is to like halo, then I no longer want to have anything to do with video games. The friendly AI is pointless, the only challenge comes from cheap deaths that only happen on Legendary mode (or whatever its called). I cant allow myself to talk too much about the multiplayer or Ill rant forever, but let me just say that NEVER, EVER before or since Halo have I played a game in which the only strategy was LITERALLY to "get to rocket spawn, blow everyone up on the way to Sword spawn, camp at sword spawn til you need ammo, then stock up on grenades before spamming your way back to rocket spawn. Lather, Rinse, Repeat."

And thats why I think that halo 3 sucks a fat one. Thats just my opinion, dont flame me bro.
 

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It's popular, so it sucks.

Halo 3 is not a bad game by any means, but it is definitely the weakest game in the series. For now though, it is the best multiplayer shooter on a console.
 

INF1NIT3 D00M

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@ drollins32
HAHA only 17 kills a game!?
wow. FAIL.
I played CoD4 all through summer vacation last year (08) and averaged somewhere around 20 kills/game in free for all, no stopping power, juggernaut, or martyrdom. I used an MP5 with a silencer and UAV jammer, bandolier and steady aim. most games ended with me being 20-25 kills/1-5 deaths.
also, the equipment (sp?) wasnt in Halo 2.
oh, and having to take 10 games to grasp CoD's controls and strategy is pretty sad. Anyone with some common sense and basic battlefield knowledge can pick that game up rather easily (ie Point rocket AWAY from ground, you only get 1 frag, there is no active camo, rockets are not very good weapons when dealing with infantry.) . I wonder, how long does it take halo players to grasp Gears of War's cover mechanic? Perhaps you could win a few matches after 20 rounds?
 

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ok let me get this out of the way first from the time halo 1 came out to the time halo 3 came out that was what i was playing

i liked halo 2 online halo 3 was fantastic online the campaigns were good to the problem is people were expecting more from it(i was very satisfied) the problem was many people are looking for story (which i dont understand why your playing a shooter for a story instead of an rpg) but the combat was good the vehicle sections were fun i thought for a shooter it was perfect the online didnt have any glitches lag was tolerable (almost) and it was fun

i think people were expecting to much from it when they should just sit down and enjoy it

and NO im not a fanboy i havent played any halo for 2 years now i played gears of war which had a amazing story good combat but the online could be very improved so dont say its just because im a fanboy
 

lizards

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and by the way drollins go play gears go get destroyed for about 100 matchs then tell me what requires more skill
 

INF1NIT3 D00M

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Does anyone else think that its wierd that i hate halo with a passion but still have grifball as my profile pic?
 

Eldritch Warlord

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I think there are four problems people have with Halo.

1 - They like the old-style "walking arsenal" shooters and Halo pretty much brought the fall of that.

2 - They equate innovation to quality, see Halo as not innovative and thus crappy.

3 - They didn't really care for it and see all these multitudes that love it, which leads somehow to hate.

4 - They're fanboys/elitists that have to hate it either because it's a console shooter or a flagship franchise of Xbox.

INF1NIT3 D00M said:
Does anyone else think that its wierd that i hate halo with a passion but still have grifball as my profile pic?
Yes, you should definitely drop the hate.
 

SP MeaslyBinkie

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People dislike it because they treat it like the Nickleback of gaming. But really I dont understand why people do its one of the most revolutonary games of its genre maybe just for the console seeing as I have never played the PC versions and I could go on and list the features that its brought but we have already heard them all so I won`t.
 

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INF1NIT3 D00M said:
I wonder, how long does it take halo players to grasp Gears of War's cover mechanic? Perhaps you could win a few matches after 20 rounds?
Well, considering I (used) play Halo (busy playing Valve games and Fallout 3 now), it must probably take the average Halo player the most of .00000001 seconds to grasp the cover mechanic, and 1 match to find out the game not about cover and primarily about shotgun blindfire and host advantage. (Talking about GeoW1 here.)
 

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I sat down to play it on my friend's 360 that has no hard drive (so I had to play it through in one sitting), and a few hours later I left because I had finished it. Where is the epic game that I was promised? The bad thing about installments of a series is that they generally have to kick the previous one's ass or they will feel like...well...an installment in a series. That, and it was juxtaposed against an all-around awesome game with creative gameplay and an original storyline. Yes, I AM talking about Bioshock.
 

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TOFUM4ST3R said:
INF1NIT3 D00M said:
I wonder, how long does it take halo players to grasp Gears of War's cover mechanic? Perhaps you could win a few matches after 20 rounds?
Well, considering I (used) play Halo (busy playing Valve games and Fallout 3 now), it must probably take the average Halo player the most of .00000001 seconds to grasp the cover mechanic, and 1 match to find out the game not about cover and primarily about shotgun blindfire and host advantage. (Talking about GeoW1 here.)
Well, I WAS trying to mess with drollins32 because he has views different to mine, but it seems that between TOFUM4ST3R and Eldritch Warlord I am doomed to be endlessly quoted and my parades sentenced to be rained upon.
TOFUM4ST3R, your quote was particularly sobering. I could almost hear the whiny 5th grade two-little-kids-arguing-over-games voice with which that post was written.
In response, I say:
NUH-UH! Halo sucks! I got a million billion kills in one round of gears on my first try. youre just a big stupid head! Ima go tell my mom on you!
Now, being (a little) more rational:
I played Gears of War until the disc cried for me to stop, and never once did I come across anything resembling a host advantage. Also, the definition seems to change from person to person.

And now to continue making my point that Halo is Teh UNkool and that GEarZ ROXXoRz!:
Halo is nowhere near as balanced as Gears of war is, and I found that tweaking weapon spawns in Gears of War is much faster and easier. The bare-bones layout of the multiplayer in gears trumps Halo any day because there is a perfect balance of weapons, spawn points, and map symmetry. The maps are asymmetrical, but with enough similarities to be fair to both sides. spawn locations switch each round, and all players spawn with enough weapons to last the round and no weapon REALLY beats another, much like rock paper scissors. When you look at halo, there is serious overkill in everything. Youre unstoppable in campaign mode and when you go online that makes the game into something of a race for the biggest gun. It seems that skill factors in less than in other games, because regardless of skill, whoever gets to rocketspawn first, wins.

I think it all comes down to simplicity. many people on here have said that Halo is simpler than other games, and Im starting to believe it. In CoD4 you need to think tactically, using the environment and whatever weapons you have to achieve a goal. In gears, you need to work as a squad to win. In Rainbow six vegas, you need to be a better swat team to win (honestly I usually play terrorist hunt and dont play deathmatch very often). All these games require constant thinking and input, and Halo simply doesnt work that way. I think people go into the game expecting a First Person Shooter in which tactics are necessary to win. Instead, Halo is a Ferst Persun Shutr with an emphasis on teabagging. You dont need intelligence, you need firepower. You dont need strategy, you need reflexes. Its a game rather than a simulated battlefield. I think that people go into it being told that Halo is a great shooter, which it might be, but nobody tells them what KIND of shooter it is. I think that deep down this is what disappoints people.

Myself however, Im crap at it. Im TERRIBLE at Halo 3. I invite you to look up my stats, its pathetic. I think that also has a big effect on my view of Halo. Here is this genre at which Im usually very proficient, but one game continues to mock me and cause me to question my abilities. How could I not hate that which makes me question my gaming identity? If a guy who calls himself INF1NIT3 D00M (to make up for my masculinity, Im told) cant get a kill in Halo 3, does it really matter If he is a beast at Call of Duty 4? I would say yes, but in the end, Halo is the one game I cannot master, a little pet peeve I choose to ignore and ridicule...
 

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I think it just gets too much hype. When Halo came out, it was awesome. It was unique, it was spiffy. I had fun being the cannon fodder of the matches. Sniper matches in particular killed me, but in large maps, I was proficient with a tank to the point that I could hold my own.
Then Halo 2 came out. Okay, it's pretty much the same thing as Halo. Sure, it's a little different. Different levels, slightly different plot, a few additions...but it was pretty much the same.
And then Halo 3 came along. Pretty much the same thing as the previous two, a few extra knobs and gauges added on to make it look cool, and a graphical upgrade, but there wasn't really enough to warrant its seemingly endless perfect scores. Sure, it would get a high grade because it was still the unique Halo, but it was pretty much just Halo.
I've never been able to play campaign mode in any of the games for very long. It just bores me to tears. But, my friends enjoy it. They've admitted themselves that it isn't the best game in the world, but it's fun for them.
To me, it's just the same game stamped out three times in different colored ink.
 

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It is considered average and simplistic, which confuses me since every shooter is simplistic. If Halo is average than I am not really sure what good is supposed to be.