Why does everyone hate the PS3?

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Syphonz

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Because Sony pushes their console as the "cheaper" console when you buy every 360 accessory.
The thing is, if you buy an Elite for $400, you've got all the accessories you need and a much larger hard drive than the $400 PS3.
The people that use the accessory argument are idiots with no way to justify themselves.
There's plenty of good things about each system, both have pros and cons. The PS3, as everyone has said, is just too much money with too few games.
To all the people that say "when X comes out, you'll see"... Look me up when X comes out and we will see, but if the X you're talking about is Final Fantasy 13, the 360 is getting it too.
Check the videos on youtube of the children and adults acting like children freaking out over FF13 being cross platform, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen. PS3 fanboys.... You're a special breed and add a whole new meaning to the word "immature".
But it's the IF you buy the Elite. 360 fanboys turn to the Elite for PS3 comparaisens for every BUT price. IF you're gunna buy a 360, more than likely you're not going to buy the Elite.
 

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i think its to do with the fact that people dont want to pay a stupid amount of money for somthing that breakes five times in a year
 

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I have nothing against my ps3, I just like my xbox more because more of my friends have it
 

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I haven't been console gaming for a lengthy period of time to know what my favourite console is. I bought a wii recently because it is affordable and I saw my brother play his and looked like fun. I don't know much about console games to know which is the better one to buy. I grew up with consoles, I just never played them. From Gameboy to Sega Mastersystems all the way up to Xbox360 and PS3, my brother has had them all and I watched him play them. I can't tell what's better because my decisions is... well, my own. I don't hate PS3s, I think they're pretty cool and awesome. I can't afford one but if someone gave me one, I'd certainly give it a try. I don't HATE consoles, I like their differences and the various experience they offer a gamer.
 

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I don't hate my PS3 so much as I resent the investment it represented. Without going into a tyrade about it, here are the reasons.

Blue Ray - The increased data capacity of the disc seems irrelevent for gaming at present given how few games span more than a single DVD (I can only think of a handful in general). It also seems that the discs are read more slowly or deliberately than a plain-jane DVD, because it takes longer (on the three games I've tried thus far) to load the PS3 version of a game than the 360 version. Yes, it gives me access to a high-def video format, but when you consider that Blue Ray movies are almost universally more expensive (20% on average for me) than the DVD version coupled with the simple fact that most movies don't seem to be improved in any meaningful way by increased resolution and picture clarity makes it seem even more irrlevent. My opnion may change as my blue-ray collection grows, but I remain skeptical.

PSN - Yes it's free, and this is the one saving grace of the system. In the month I've had a PS3 I have been booted from games, disconnected from the network, told the network was down and all those other nasty bugs that would have any paying consumer screaming for blood (or a refund). The quality of service here is just pitiful. As I said, it's free so I don't get too worked up about it, but I'm annoyed each and every time I can't play a game online because of some silly technical issue outside of my control.

The Controller - People gas on and on about how precise the controller is compared to the 360 controller but I'd have to say those people are clearly suffering from pronounced stockholm syndrome. Yes, there are more levels of precision on the controller but the basic design all but ensures you can't use them. Evolution for the play station controller ended at the dual shock, and at some point I hope someone realizes just how uncomfortable the controller is when used in any game requiring lots of button presses and analog inputs (i.e. any FPS game). While the motion sensitivity is nice in theory, thus far I have only seen it used in a gimmicky fashion (see Killzone 2 for an excellent example).

The Game Lineup - Because of my tastes for video games, there are only a handful (6 at last count) of games that I actually need my PS3 to play. Because of my distaste for the controller (and the online service) I will almost certainly purchase the 360 version of most any game launched on both platforms.

Cost - I know WHY it's expensive (and it certainly isn't because it produces any noticable difference in the graphics of the games I've tried on both), but I feel like sony missed the point of a console. Sure it can act like a computer - but I already HAVE a computer that does every function the PS3 does, only it does it better. Yes, it can play movies, but the only notable point here is that it has a blue ray player - an item I can purchase for well under 200 bucks these days. At the end of the day, I payed $400 (plus 8.25% sales tax) for a console that plays only a handful of games I can't play elsewhere - the rest of the feature set goes unused and unwanted because I already have devices that perform that function better.

Still, I do hold out hope for many of the parts of the console. Motion sensing would work wonderfully in Gran Turismo, but having never played the game (it's one of the six), I don't know if it's worth the price of admission. The Play Station as a platform has hosted many wondeful games in the past and I can only hope that at some point in the future it will do so again. Right now, I find it hard to justify the expense, and when you suffer buyer's remorse less than a month after purchase, something has probably gone wrong somewhere.
 

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Syphonz said:
DemonI81 said:
edgeofblade said:
Because Sony pushes their console as the "cheaper" console when you buy every 360 accessory.
The thing is, if you buy an Elite for $400, you've got all the accessories you need and a much larger hard drive than the $400 PS3.
The people that use the accessory argument are idiots with no way to justify themselves.
There's plenty of good things about each system, both have pros and cons. The PS3, as everyone has said, is just too much money with too few games.
To all the people that say "when X comes out, you'll see"... Look me up when X comes out and we will see, but if the X you're talking about is Final Fantasy 13, the 360 is getting it too.
Check the videos on youtube of the children and adults acting like children freaking out over FF13 being cross platform, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen. PS3 fanboys.... You're a special breed and add a whole new meaning to the word "immature".
But it's the IF you buy the Elite. 360 fanboys turn to the Elite for PS3 comparaisens for every BUT price. IF you're gunna buy a 360, more than likely you're not going to buy the Elite.
Ok then, what MOST do buy is the Pro, which comes with everything you need, except an HDMI cable (you can get one for $3 from an bunch of amazon trusted sellers) and has a 60GB HDD. Also, 360 gamers get their HDD to themselves. They aren't forced to "install" large portions of games to their HDD to combat the slow read times of the blu-ray.
How's that? Any better?
By the way, I'm not a fanboy of anything, other than hating ignorant fanboys. I've decided, through logic and facts, that TO ME, the 360 is a better choice by far. Give me facts and proper logic that proves me wrong and I will accept it and thank you for it.
 

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DemonI81 said:
Syphonz said:
DemonI81 said:
edgeofblade said:
Because Sony pushes their console as the "cheaper" console when you buy every 360 accessory.
The thing is, if you buy an Elite for $400, you've got all the accessories you need and a much larger hard drive than the $400 PS3.
The people that use the accessory argument are idiots with no way to justify themselves.
There's plenty of good things about each system, both have pros and cons. The PS3, as everyone has said, is just too much money with too few games.
To all the people that say "when X comes out, you'll see"... Look me up when X comes out and we will see, but if the X you're talking about is Final Fantasy 13, the 360 is getting it too.
Check the videos on youtube of the children and adults acting like children freaking out over FF13 being cross platform, it's the funniest thing I've ever seen. PS3 fanboys.... You're a special breed and add a whole new meaning to the word "immature".
But it's the IF you buy the Elite. 360 fanboys turn to the Elite for PS3 comparaisens for every BUT price. IF you're gunna buy a 360, more than likely you're not going to buy the Elite.
Ok then, what MOST do buy is the Pro, which comes with everything you need, except an HDMI cable (you can get one for $3 from an bunch of amazon trusted sellers) and has a 60GB HDD. Also, 360 gamers get their HDD to themselves. They aren't forced to "install" large portions of games to their HDD to combat the slow read times of the blu-ray.
How's that? Any better?
By the way, I'm not a fanboy of anything, other than hating ignorant fanboys. I've decided, through logic and facts, that TO ME, the 360 is a better choice by far. Give me facts and proper logic that proves me wrong and I will accept it and thank you for it.
While I would give you proper facts, it really isn't worth the effort. Not in ways of insulting you and putting claims that you're an ignorant tool, its just someone else would quote me with a hate splur telling me how much I'm wrong on a matter of opinion. Which it all comes down to, aside from a technical aspect.
 

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I don't hate it I just can't afford it. Believe me if I could I would have MGS4 and Drake's Fortune by now.
 

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The PS3 has nothing wrong with it, but Sony has dropped the ball with supporting it. It has been a catalogue of promises and delays and I think a lot of people just lost patience with it. PS2 had exclusives and quirky unusual titles like Rez, now Microsoft has Rez HD and exclusive DLC. Sony have taken too long and acted like there was no rush to actually DO anything with the PS3, while Microsoft have delivered in spades, despite the 360 hardware faults.

My girlfriend took a long time deciding PS3 or 360 and after a long time leaning toward the former, she chose the latter due to better support.
 

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Blaxton said:
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...it's the games, stupid.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_90/505-The-Lost-Generation
That's a cool article. I'd forgotten all about that one. Thanks for bringing that back to life, Blaxton.

I think "hate" is a pretty strong word to use for an inanimate object, but I am most definitely not a big fan of the PS3 at the moment, and there are three distinct reasons for that:

1. The games, stupid. There's a PS3 in my house, so I have access to one if I want/need it, but I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a PS3 exclusive that I wanted to play badly enough to make me buy one if I didn't.

2. The controller. I wasn't gaming much when the Playstation and PS2 were "the shit" so I'm still pretty much a newb as far as the Dualshock's buttons and control scheme go. I went from the PC straight to the Xbox, so I expended my available learning curve for new things on the Xbox's arrangement. To this day Xs and Os make me cringe.

3. The lousy multimedia support. Friday night, we happened to be watching a BluRay movie. The first preview trailer at the beginning of that movie was for the Max Payne movie. Which made me want to watch Max Payne instead of the movie that was on. So we hit up Sony's Store and ordered Max Payne. So far so good.

45 minutes later, the movie still hadn't downloaded enough to watch without the "buffering" message showing up every 2 minutes. So we decided to go back to the BluRay movie instead and watch Max Payne afterwards. Except that didn't work either. For whatever reason, the PS3 decided we weren't really serious about the downloading of that movie while the BluRay was playing. After two hours, it hadn't downloaded any more than it had when we started watching the BluRay. Two hours after that, it was still downloading. We watched it the next day.

Compare this to ordering a movie on Xbox Live and watching it within 5 minutes and it's a pretty clear epic fail. If the PS3 were the only console in my house I would feel incredibly cheated by the movies-on-demand concept as a whole and would probably never try it again.
 

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So I own a PS3 and it seems like it is getting shunned by the world of gaming. Everywhere I go there is always a Microsoft fan boy telling me how much the PS3 sucks. Don't get me wrong, I've met some PS3 fan boys and the are not any better, but why is the PS3 the scum of the universe? Maybe it is just demographics, or maybe I just don't know enough people. AND, why the f-sauce didn't they release an expansion for Fallout 3 on the PS3??????? Not cool. >.<
Sigh... for me, it's because it was so much of a let down. I was looking forward to it, and end up not buying it. Why? Because after numerous hours of playing it at friends houses, I was let down. The PS2 was the best there was. And then... the Ps3 was a huge amount of money, and it really wasn't worth it.
 

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Mazty said:
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Why base buying a next gen console on its ability to play last-gen games?? I've never understood it, but frankly it doesn't make any sense. Apart from a few games on the PS2, there are all next gen sequels to them (out or due to be released) on the PS3 with better graphics, gameplay etc.
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I'm speechless. I just don't know what to say here man. And i don't think your second sentence makes much sense either.

Oh oh wait i know!
The PS1 and PS2 have a vast game lineup, and the PS3 still barely has anything. PS2 games cost less than PS3 games. For me, the early PS3s were PS2s that i can use to play some next gen games when some come out. And now SONY took that potential away and all that's left is an expensive blu-ray player with a handful of exclusives and a bunch of JRPGs. I don't give two shits about graphics either, and what's a sequel worth without playing the previous games? Obviously with the exception of GT and such. But why should i pick up MGS 4 if i don't even know WTF happened in the other 3 MGS games? That's what doesn't make sense.
Playing PS1 games nowadays would only be for nostalgia; the gameplay, graphics etc suck. For storyline, save the cash and hit wikipedia or a fansite. Why trudge through dated gameplay and crappy AI just to find something out which a 10 minute read would have enlightend you on?
After replaying Devil May Cry, I realised that good games then are not good games now, and should be left in the past. Playing them now is either a test of patience of laughably bad.
A handful of exclusives? Same amount as 360, maybe a bit less, but better quality. Not to mention every single multiplatform game which is the vast majority of games nowadays. People say it is lacking in games but thats nonsense; it has the majority of 360 games and vice-versa.
Okay this is where i'm leaving this conversation, as it's not going to get anywhere. You apparently don't understand that some people DO like older games. I play games from all the way back in the late '90s, and i enjoy them to death. In fact i enjoy them a lot more than the majority of shallow dumbed down cash-ins that are modern games. I clearly stated that i don't care about shiny graphics, so you shouldn't have brought that up as an argument afterwards. I honestly pity you, for you can not appriciate these old masterpieces like Fallout or Soldiers of Anarchy. You're missing out on a lot of fun mate.
 

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You can gripe over details. Accessories, free/paid internet access, PS3 being more expensive, Hardware failure in the 360, PS3 having more oomph in its graphic abilities, franchise loyalty, backwards compatibility library...but that's all pretty much fodder for the fanboys, the arguments are personal opinions, tastes and values. The reason why PS3 catches so much flak is that for the first few years of the system, it's power meant it was more expensive, and good exclusives were almost non-existent. It basically took years for them to turn it into a real, competitive system. I mean, it is now competitive. The choice between the 2 systems is not clear cut, it depends on what your looking for. But for a long time after PS3's release, it was selling entirely on future potential. The platforms are an even match now, but Sony had a slow start. Its VERY hard to deny that.
 

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I refuse to comment, as the first two posts have unnacceptably horrible grammar and explicit use of smileys.
 

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I dunno, I own a PS3,360,Wii,DS,PSP and a gaming PC... I classify myself as a "gamer" I don't feel I'm a fan boy to any particular brand... I'm just in general a "Video Game" fan boy. My PS3 gets used second out of all my consoles. Xbox live is the only reason my 360 gets used over my PS3 actually, it's just a far superior online community ( and my friends for the most part all own 360's making it a bit better personally for me as well as technically ). I can honestly say though that I love my PS3, it's an amazing bluray player ( I have a nice HDTV so I was glad that it doubled as a BD player as well as a console ). If people are just complaining because they can't afford it ... that's just sad... if it's because they blindly love Microsoft/Nintendo ... that's just sad too. You have to imbrace gaming in all it's forms in order to be a true gamer and denying a system a chance just because it costs a bit more ( buy a bluray player and console seperatly and see what costs more ) or because you just don't like the company just makes you miss out on some truly great gaming experiences.
 

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360 users have fanboys too, same as Wii, but none are as bad as the PS3 fanboys. I'm going to sterotype here, but I'm thinking it's because the 360 guys have tons of games to play and are obviously not in need of defending their purchase, the Wii guys don't really care much about gaming anyway and the PS3 guys have a lot of gaming time not being used due to their minute library. That's my theory.
I'll agree that fanboys of all types are annoying.

However if you go to a site like joystiq you'll see that the 360 section has way more articles with waaaay more fanboys commenting on them. So when you look there, it appears that the 360ers have more free time on their hands.

As for which group of fanboys are more annoying, I would have to say on average the crap I hear spouted over XBL is way more annoying (and high pitched) then the crap I hear spouted over a ps3 headset but maybe that's just me.
 

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They hate it because they cant afford it. Been stated so many times already in this thread.
 

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hannahdonno said:
megapenguinx said:
hannahdonno said:
megapenguinx said:
hannahdonno said:
tokoolforranch said:
So I own a PS3 and it seems like it is getting shunned by the world of gaming. Everywhere I go there is always a Microsoft fan boy telling me how much the PS3 sucks. Don't get me wrong, I've met some PS3 fan boys and the are not any better, but why is the PS3 the scum of the universe? Maybe it is just demographics, or maybe I just don't know enough people. AND, why the f-sauce didn't they release an expansion for Fallout 3 on the PS3??????? Not cool. >.<
Because it is far too expensive, huge and lumberous and why have one when you can settle for a cheaper, more versatile console?

XBOX 360 FTW.
Thank you Hannahdonno for basically proving his point.

People don't like the PS3 because of it's cost (both of the console and to develop for it). Plus the lack of backwards compatibility killed it for a lot of people. I mean c'mon most of us own/ed a PS2 and remember it had amazing games. Fanboys are just blind followers, they feel they have to defend their console of choice.
Also Fallout 3 will not get any expansions on the PS3 because Microsoft paid for exclusive rights on the 360.
As I have just said to another poster, I was attatched to my PS2, but the PS3 made me want to hurl every Sony based product I own out of the window. If you actually take everything into consideration, the 360 is technically better.
From a technological stand point, no.
I will admit it has a majority of better games though. I actually don't see anything wrong with the PS3 other than it's being under supported (opposite of the Wii which is being over supported just not by very many good developers). Well I guess there is some bias in my reasoning since I have a backwards compatible PS3.
I didn't mean techincally actually meaning technically... I'm confusing mysellf now. Yes, the backwards compatibility was an added bonus, but now they are very hard to come by. And yes it may be technically quite good, but it could be argued its TOO good. No one can be bothered making games that use the PS3's true potential and is there any point having a really good console thats just going to gather dust, due to the lack of good, exclusive games?

And they could have made more of an effort to change the pad |:
Yeah it is very difficult to develop for. And I actually like the control pad, it's good for everything just not shooters. I'll admit that the 360 control is one of the best for FPS's.