Why does everyone say the Uncharted series is amazing?(MINOR SPOILERS)

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G-Force

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DioWallachia said:
So lets do the RLM thing that he did for Indiana Jones:
"Would Indy be the same without his outfit and his hat?"
"Its he too iconic for its how good to change ANYTHING of him?"

Ask yourself this: "If there is a character in Gordon Freeman, then why doesn't he talk?"
"Would talking break the character of Freeman in some way?" "Its there a character to begin with?"
Freeman talking would cause such a huge backlash in the fandom as everyone has a different Gordon Freeman interpretation in their head. Because he is mute it defines the player's experience even more.

Take for example HL1, Gordon Freeman escapes the order and G-Man shows interest in his abilities.

In my game I was not used to playing on mouse and keyboard and stumbled through combat and got better. The context of the storyline has now changed for G-Man takes interest in Gordon Freeman as he's shown incredible insight and ability to adapt despite never being in danger before.

Now take my friend who's just a BEAST in shooter's. In his story the G-Man took interest in Gordon because he saw a scientist with amazing combat prowess despite not having to shoot a gun before.
 

DioWallachia

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G-Force said:
DioWallachia said:
So lets do the RLM thing that he did for Indiana Jones:
"Would Indy be the same without his outfit and his hat?"
"Its he too iconic for its how good to change ANYTHING of him?"

Ask yourself this: "If there is a character in Gordon Freeman, then why doesn't he talk?"
"Would talking break the character of Freeman in some way?" "Its there a character to begin with?"
Freeman talking would cause such a huge backlash in the fandom as everyone has a different Gordon Freeman interpretation in their head. Because he is mute it defines the player's experience even more.

Take for example HL1, Gordon Freeman escapes the order and G-Man shows interest in his abilities.

Now take my friend who's just a BEAST in shooter's. In his story the G-Man took interest in Gordon because he saw a scientist with amazing combat prowess despite not having to shoot a gun before.
In my game I was not used to playing on mouse and keyboard and stumbled through combat and got better. The context of the storyline has now changed for G-Man takes interest in Gordon Freeman as he's shown incredible insight and ability to adapt despite never being in danger before.

That is the odd thing, he is ALWAYS baddass if you happen to control him but after your control is gone he is back to being defenseless (we didnt see it but it kinda implied if you pay attention) What do i mean by that? Well, the G-Man at the end of HL1 makes a deal with Gordon and the next time we see Gordon its in a Train without the armor or weapons at all, what happened? Its like he is being possesed by the player during the game and after you left he is just normal again.
It feels like Mindjack whose plot twist was that you (the player) are the evil entity controlling the main character and that is why he doesnt remember things like hacking other peoples minds even if you have done it for like 5 hours non stop

I see no reason for Gordon to dish the weapons or even try to not stop the Combine during the take over; Neither i see any reason of why would the G-Man would try to take his belongings away just so he can succeed once again in being "The Right Man in the Wrong Place" its too risky and i am pretty sure that he is working for someone else, so wouldnt make sense for the G-Man to give Gordon the best weapons and send him to kill the source of the combine? he seems to control time and space so why not teleport him when the Combine is more fragile to finish them before they go to conquer everything??
 

Bradeck

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Obvious hipster troll is obviously a hipster troll. Uncharted isn't any good? Every well reviewed critic disagrees. Most every action adventure fan disagrees. Nolan North disagress. And most importantly, Han Solo and Malcom Reynolds disagree. Both LOVE the entire series. I'll take Harrison Ford's opinion on what makes a great action adventure over yours.
 

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I'm only about an hour into the third game but so far I'm not enjoying it as much as the second. It feels like after the first game had too many gunfights they sorted the pacing in the sequel but now Drake's Deception is just interactive cinematics.

I'm still enjoying it though because the story is fun and I like the characters. Neither aspect is genre-defining but nor is it mediocre as some have suggested. The real problem is that people seem to misunderstand what constitutes a 'perfect game'.

A perfect game doesn't mean you need to shut down the industry because none will ever surpass, it just means that this particular game hits all it's marks, and the only game I've ever played which felt like that was God of War II. For the most part I'd give Uncharted 2 a solid 10/10 as well, there were just some parts that dragged on a bit.

At the end of the day though, it wouldn't be popular if people didn't enjoy it, so why get upset just because you didn't?
 

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ash-brewster said:
They don't, see Yahtzee's frequent ripping on Nathan Drake in his reviews.
>Zero Punctuation
>Reviews

Please tell me you don't think they're actually reviews...

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Because I find it fun. There are flaws, yes, but I still find it fun. That's all you need to know, OP.
 

DioWallachia

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Bradeck said:
Obvious hipster troll is obviously a hipster troll. Uncharted isn't any good? Every well reviewed critic disagrees. Most every action adventure fan disagrees. Nolan North disagress. And most importantly, Han Solo and Malcom Reynolds disagree. Both LOVE the entire series. I'll take Harrison Ford's opinion on what makes a great action adventure over yours.
First of all this exist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Manning_%28fictitious_writer%29

It gives good recomendations to movies that are related to Sony but doesnt for games...but i am sure it will eventually since Sony OWN the Uncharted series. (This isnt the first time that Sony actually says in public that they fucked up and they are proud of it)

Second, Harrison Ford?? Because Uncharted is Indiana Jones of video games?? are you sure he didnt say it was good on purpose so people would play it and get disappointed and proclaim "Only Harrison Ford is the True Indy" in a Springtime for Hitler sort of way so people buy more Indy movies and remember that Harrison had, you know, a career once and boost his ego?

So reviews could be fake and Harrison isnt trustworthy so i can only trust Malcom Reynolds.....if only i knew who Reynolds is.
 

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kortin said:
ash-brewster said:
They don't, see Yahtzee's frequent ripping on Nathan Drake in his reviews.
>Zero Punctuation
>Reviews

Please tell me you don't think they're actually reviews...

On Topic:

Because I find it fun. There are flaws, yes, but I still find it fun. That's all you need to know, OP.
Read the Extra Punctuation where the real reviews are. But i find hard to believe that maybe if you look hard enough you could find a game that has none of the flaws and better in everything else but people are too lazy to give a crap about looking for things that, you know, may actually be better.
 

kortin

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DioWallachia said:
Read the Extra Punctuation where the real reviews are. But i find hard to believe that maybe if you look hard enough you could find a game that has none of the flaws and better in everything else but people are too lazy to give a crap about looking for things that, you know, may actually be better.
Of course there are better games out there. There is always something better, does that mean that we shouldn't play any game because there's always going to be a better one? Be realistic, man.
 

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totally heterosexual said:
THEY

FUCKING

LIKE THEM

NOT THAT FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND IS IT!?
The concept no, the reason yes?

I ono. but that post kind of sums up every nitpick about why someone likes something doesn't it.
 

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rob_simple said:
I'm only about an hour into the third game but so far I'm not enjoying it as much as the second. It feels like after the first game had too many gunfights they sorted the pacing in the sequel but now Drake's Deception is just interactive cinematics.

I'm still enjoying it though because the story is fun and I like the characters. Neither aspect is genre-defining but nor is it mediocre as some have suggested. The real problem is that people seem to misunderstand what constitutes a 'perfect game'.

A perfect game doesn't mean you need to shut down the industry because none will ever surpass, it just means that this particular game hits all it's marks, and the only game I've ever played which felt like that was God of War II. For the most part I'd give Uncharted 2 a solid 10/10 as well, there were just some parts that dragged on a bit.

At the end of the day though, it wouldn't be popular if people didn't enjoy it, so why get upset just because you didn't?
I will just keep it as simple as possible because people dont like reading. Here are some examples:

Citizen Kane = Best Movie of All time, loved by everyone but it was a bomb at the box office when it came out


Yes, a bomb. That later will be even MORE worshiped by critics in the world along with John Carpernter's The Thing and Blade Runner (those 2 also bombed when they came out only to be claimed as excelents films)

Then comes today, "filmmakers" Seltzer and Friedberg make Disaster Movie and Meet The Spartans and somehow managed to make millons out of what you can barely call movies.

I hate to do this jarring kind of comparations (it feels like calling someone a Nazi to make other dissagre with him) but this its just a little way to tell you what everyone else is thinking of themselves: "I have the only fuctional brain in the whole planet"

So its obvious that associating something as "popular" means that this word "Dumbed the fuck down" always comes to mind and with videogames the situation is even worse.
Uncharted may be a good series but in the grand scale it doesnt give anything new. It could, however, open the world to a bunch of new people to gaming but if Uncharted success becomes too munch to understand what makes it great then when the inevitable clones comes it would only make games in general look the same to anyone else that ISNT smart enough to research.

Sort of like "Seinfield is Unfunny" Uncharted will look like crap when the so called "clones" fail to give whatever makes Uncharted great and will mark the industry as lazy

I dont hate the game but i wouldnt call it good either. I just kneel to the truth and i dont want to find out that this series is the best ever when its already too late, we have to have a clear mind in WHAT makes Uncharted series good over other games and over itself, as in, what is so great a bout U3 that U2 and U1 doesnt
 

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I pretty much stopped reading when you mentioned Chloe is an interesting character. No, no she really isn't. She is 100% just a piece of ass, and the least rounded of all the characters except maybe Joseph the camera guy that dies in U2.
 

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totally heterosexual said:
THEY

FUCKING

LIKE THEM

NOT THAT FUCKING HARD TO UNDERSTAND IS IT!?
What he said.

People in these forums would do well someday to understand that somehow, in some bizarre way, people do indeed like different things. I don't go around asking why in hell people like JRPG's, I just accept that they do, it appeals to something they like, that I don't.

It's just the way it works.
 
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I adore Uncharted 2. In terms of spectacular moments, pacing, diverse gameplay, storytelling and visuals it is brilliant. That being said, I enjoyed Uncharted 3 a lot less. The story was weak and the spectacle lacking.
 

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Your citation makes no sense. Your argument is fail. You lake any definitive stance, you just want to express hate. Your posts are the height of immaturity, and your constant whining about the game makes you look like a ponce. Quit being a tool and go do something you enjoy. I don't give a pickled shit on rye if you hate the game.

But your arguments reek of the kid who came in here last year and said "Firefly is teh BLOWS!!! LOLOLOLOL" or some such crap. I honestly believe people create these sorts of threads out of a sick perversion to incite anger and upset the popular opinion.
 

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kortin said:
DioWallachia said:
Read the Extra Punctuation where the real reviews are. But i find hard to believe that maybe if you look hard enough you could find a game that has none of the flaws and better in everything else but people are too lazy to give a crap about looking for things that, you know, may actually be better.
Of course there are better games out there. There is always something better, does that mean that we shouldn't play any game because there's always going to be a better one? Be realistic, man.

But i offer a better "Realistic" solution (And by realistic i mean batshit). They should stop releasing games and movies too quickly. Because i dont want to find out that the best book/movie/game ever has been made and i just missed it because i was tricked into buying something inferior.

You may say: "Its a bloody industry, you cant just tell them to stop" and i would say "Is it an industry or a extortion?" Because even if i decide to not buy anything i may crush the dreams of people that actually gave 2 fucks about books/movie/games as an art form but the alternative isnt very pretty either sinse my money may produce more crap over the time.

Why can we just not buy those and say "Fuck you industry, we deserve better!!"?? EA has taken the video games marketing to the point that its embarrassing to admit liking video games. People banned together when the signature petition to stop Uwe Boll from making ANY movie was made, people proclamed together that Dark Souls deserves a PC port and now people gave money to Tim Schafer because he is awesome at making games, so why cant we do something like this??
 

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Ryan Kish said:
I think the Uncharted series is an overrated piece of garbage.
So do I, so do I.

To answer your question though, I'm sure a lot of people think the things I like are overrated pieces of garbage or other terms that don't sound fond. It's preference man, usually if you don't like something it is hard to understand why others would, they just have a different frame of mind.
 

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Overall, I do like Uncharted as a series, but it took me quite a while to warm up to it. A large part of that is that the first game starts out by painting Nathan Drake as a completely unlikable douchemonkey. He's duped Elena into funding his search for Drake's coffin and then bails on her, leaving her to pay for the boat that got blown up. The boat he said was insured, but wasn't.

At that point, I just really wanted to see Drake get his face smashed in with a rock.

In Uncharted 2, Drake has become more likable, but for large chunks of the game, Chloe does everything she can to cement her reputation as someone who shouldn't be trusted. I lost track of how many times they'd be in a tight spot and she's point her gun at Drake and let the yell out to Harry or whoever about how she caught him. Yeah, it made sense the first time, but every time after that she's perfectly willing to leave Drake to his fate. And then she acts shocked when this leads to Drake getting shot for real.

It's too bad really, cause she was a pretty good character otherwise.
 

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I actually just posted about this being a series of games that I find overrated. It's nothing to get too worked up about, people like it because they like it.

I'm more upset that there are people who like Nickelback than I am about people who like Uncharted (I'm really not. I hate their music but I'm not gonna bash anyone who likes it). Hell my brother is a HUGE Uncharted fan. But ultimately it just comes down to different tastes man.