closed mindedness. Most of the people who "hate anime" end up diehard fans if you can get them to watch it. At least the ones i know.
Why don't people like anime?
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I thoroughly enjoy anime, the genre facinates me! I really like Samurai Champloo, DBZ, full metal alchemist, maybe some others that aren't coming to mind.
Aside from the fact that people have different tastes from one another?
Well, maybe they've been introduced to anime the wrong way. People often confuse bad anime with all anime. For example; miscellaneous individual see's commercials for (or watches a bit of) something like Naruto or Bleach or DBZ, then they decide that animes such as FLCL or Bokurano are just as silly. I'm sure people who see and hate certain cartoon-network-approved animes have a tendency to use them as an example or excuse to hate on all other anime. A bad first impression can ruin just about anythings reputation with anyone.
Plus, from what I hear, the eyes and hair styles are just too absurd and ridiculous for anyone to even want to try and take them seriously, which I can partly understand.
And then, since most anime is sci-fi or fantasy based, there will be criticism coming from people are against that as well.
In the end I guess it all is just opinions and tastes, not everyone shares them and plenty of people like to bash the things they don't like. Really, there's no way to change it and no reason to either, we anime geeks are far from alone out here so why fuss over people that prefer other forms of media?
Well, maybe they've been introduced to anime the wrong way. People often confuse bad anime with all anime. For example; miscellaneous individual see's commercials for (or watches a bit of) something like Naruto or Bleach or DBZ, then they decide that animes such as FLCL or Bokurano are just as silly. I'm sure people who see and hate certain cartoon-network-approved animes have a tendency to use them as an example or excuse to hate on all other anime. A bad first impression can ruin just about anythings reputation with anyone.
Plus, from what I hear, the eyes and hair styles are just too absurd and ridiculous for anyone to even want to try and take them seriously, which I can partly understand.
And then, since most anime is sci-fi or fantasy based, there will be criticism coming from people are against that as well.
In the end I guess it all is just opinions and tastes, not everyone shares them and plenty of people like to bash the things they don't like. Really, there's no way to change it and no reason to either, we anime geeks are far from alone out here so why fuss over people that prefer other forms of media?
There's a certain flavor that the vast majority of anime has, that a few series like Cowboy Bebop managed to avoid, that just doesn't appeal to very large demographics in the Western world. They're awfully dramatic, even when they're supposed to be comedies, they run like soap operas, often with magic teenagers, and honestly there are people that just like live action better just because they appreciate acting. Many people love it, some people can't even see it on the screen without getting nauseous.
Some people have tastes different than yours. I for one just cannot stand the art style, story-telling, or characters. Get over it.
EDIT- Okay...I liked Cowboy Bebop, but that was because it has as few anime tropes as possible, a very western style, and just good story-telling. The actual characters still kinda annoyed me, though. If only Ed wasn't in it....goddammit.
EDIT- Okay...I liked Cowboy Bebop, but that was because it has as few anime tropes as possible, a very western style, and just good story-telling. The actual characters still kinda annoyed me, though. If only Ed wasn't in it....goddammit.
Because we're in a society thats unknowingly conditioned to consider cartoons childish?
Whilst also bieng in a society, there those who don't "connosoir" animation consider anime just to be cartoons from japan. Dispite the differences in writing style, content and subject.
When you break down why cartoons are made for kids much more than live-action, its plain to see from what childish live-action there is: MI High bieng a perfect example; child actors hardly ever equal good actors - and to make adults act in a kids thing implys they do the MI High acting - over-the-top, with pauses to scream for 3 whole seconds with a close-up, with adults acting like children (or rather, dumbasses) so no self-respecting actor will dare go near it.
With a cartoon you can have older people who can act do the voices of children - which is what they want because kids assosiate with kids (and anthropamorphic animal-people, again a similarity)
There is just so much more in kids cartoons than kids get in live action - for good reason, that it is just assumed in the west that if a cartoon is on TV, its probably for children - as Live Action usually isn't.
At least, this is in England anyway.
Whilst also bieng in a society, there those who don't "connosoir" animation consider anime just to be cartoons from japan. Dispite the differences in writing style, content and subject.
When you break down why cartoons are made for kids much more than live-action, its plain to see from what childish live-action there is: MI High bieng a perfect example; child actors hardly ever equal good actors - and to make adults act in a kids thing implys they do the MI High acting - over-the-top, with pauses to scream for 3 whole seconds with a close-up, with adults acting like children (or rather, dumbasses) so no self-respecting actor will dare go near it.
With a cartoon you can have older people who can act do the voices of children - which is what they want because kids assosiate with kids (and anthropamorphic animal-people, again a similarity)
There is just so much more in kids cartoons than kids get in live action - for good reason, that it is just assumed in the west that if a cartoon is on TV, its probably for children - as Live Action usually isn't.
At least, this is in England anyway.
I don't like anime because I haven't found one that had a story that I liked, with good voice actors and good animation.
I don't want to watch subs, if I wanted to read, I'd read a book.
But I like the idea of anime because it seems to me that it is entwined with geek culture, that is why I've attended anime conventions.
I don't want to watch subs, if I wanted to read, I'd read a book.
But I like the idea of anime because it seems to me that it is entwined with geek culture, that is why I've attended anime conventions.
Two reasons.
1. Japanese culture is extremely strange and the stories rarely make sense. (This is MY opinion. if you like the stories and the culture, be my guest)
2. The biggest reason for me is that I just don't like the art of anime. That drawing style just makes it impossible for me to really enjoy it.
1. Japanese culture is extremely strange and the stories rarely make sense. (This is MY opinion. if you like the stories and the culture, be my guest)
2. The biggest reason for me is that I just don't like the art of anime. That drawing style just makes it impossible for me to really enjoy it.
I enjoyed a couple in my life, but in general, I can't get into them. I won't say why, there's a huge variety of them. Too many. I just don't take well to the art style, the stories, and the foreign-ness of it all.
One that I can say I enjoyed, off the top of my head, Nerima Daikon Brothers, but mostly because it didn't take itself too seriously. When it did though, I was rolling my eyes.
One that I can say I enjoyed, off the top of my head, Nerima Daikon Brothers, but mostly because it didn't take itself too seriously. When it did though, I was rolling my eyes.
I've given up with anime lately, mostly for these reasons.
1: The manga is often better. I've heard that this is due to the fact that since manga is more accepted than anime in Japan (as anime is seen as the equivalent of cartoons over here, something that you might watch a more mature version of sometimes or see a bit of, but following them after a certain age seems immature) so the animated adaption is aimed towards a younger audience. They also like to cut unnecessary sections as well and if the series isn't a sure fire hit, it will be aimed towards a shorter run. You also then have the problem of adapting anything to another medium as well, with a lot of little things being lost including the stuff you filled in yourself (such as the voices).
2. A lot of it is indeed crap. Popular stuff is popular because it's either safe or it just happens to appeal to a large audience. More niche focused material is almost always going to be better, if only due to the fact that it can focus on it's task rather than pleasing a larger base. However, this runs the risk of not hitting the proper niche during it's run (becoming a cult classic), underperforming (niche being too small), being stuck in a certain rut or risk dying (if you try to expand outwards after you've reached your limits with a certain area, you risk upsetting the original fans, and the original stuff might not appeal to the new fans), etc.
3. It requires a lot of time/money/effort to watch. This is true of any show, but anime in particular. If you decide to watch a single episode, you have to commit half an hour to that, maybe more if you're watching online. Speaking of watching online, assuming you're not watching via hulu or something (where you get the ads as well), you've got to learn to properly read subtitles for a lot of series, wait on loading screens, and find a proper site once you've committed (often you'll hit a lot of ad heavy sites or worse). If you decide to support the official release, well, since you're part of a niche it's gonna cost you a lot more than normal. And then you have to deal with whatever the localization changed as well, in addition to the original changes in the paper to animation transition.
4. I get bored with it. This is mostly the summed up version of all the other points. Often I'll read the manga, and not even really want to buy it to reread, so I don't feel the need to watch either the animated version of it, or the bastardized original story featuring a lot of the elements from there. When I do, it's often one of the much smaller series, which means it's gonna be a lot shorter than the safe shounen series that's running into its triple digits. And then I've got to dedicate half an hour per episode, which I could be using to replay some of my games (several of which are waiting right next to me, stacked in order of want to replay), or do work in the form of studying or writing stories, or starting to watch a movie I like. My days already seem short enough, even with a mild case of insomnia, so I doubt fitting in a series would be an easy task.
Come summer though, I sometimes have the time, so I'll watch a series or two, but that's about it.
1: The manga is often better. I've heard that this is due to the fact that since manga is more accepted than anime in Japan (as anime is seen as the equivalent of cartoons over here, something that you might watch a more mature version of sometimes or see a bit of, but following them after a certain age seems immature) so the animated adaption is aimed towards a younger audience. They also like to cut unnecessary sections as well and if the series isn't a sure fire hit, it will be aimed towards a shorter run. You also then have the problem of adapting anything to another medium as well, with a lot of little things being lost including the stuff you filled in yourself (such as the voices).
2. A lot of it is indeed crap. Popular stuff is popular because it's either safe or it just happens to appeal to a large audience. More niche focused material is almost always going to be better, if only due to the fact that it can focus on it's task rather than pleasing a larger base. However, this runs the risk of not hitting the proper niche during it's run (becoming a cult classic), underperforming (niche being too small), being stuck in a certain rut or risk dying (if you try to expand outwards after you've reached your limits with a certain area, you risk upsetting the original fans, and the original stuff might not appeal to the new fans), etc.
3. It requires a lot of time/money/effort to watch. This is true of any show, but anime in particular. If you decide to watch a single episode, you have to commit half an hour to that, maybe more if you're watching online. Speaking of watching online, assuming you're not watching via hulu or something (where you get the ads as well), you've got to learn to properly read subtitles for a lot of series, wait on loading screens, and find a proper site once you've committed (often you'll hit a lot of ad heavy sites or worse). If you decide to support the official release, well, since you're part of a niche it's gonna cost you a lot more than normal. And then you have to deal with whatever the localization changed as well, in addition to the original changes in the paper to animation transition.
4. I get bored with it. This is mostly the summed up version of all the other points. Often I'll read the manga, and not even really want to buy it to reread, so I don't feel the need to watch either the animated version of it, or the bastardized original story featuring a lot of the elements from there. When I do, it's often one of the much smaller series, which means it's gonna be a lot shorter than the safe shounen series that's running into its triple digits. And then I've got to dedicate half an hour per episode, which I could be using to replay some of my games (several of which are waiting right next to me, stacked in order of want to replay), or do work in the form of studying or writing stories, or starting to watch a movie I like. My days already seem short enough, even with a mild case of insomnia, so I doubt fitting in a series would be an easy task.
Come summer though, I sometimes have the time, so I'll watch a series or two, but that's about it.
I can't complain about anime, seeing as it's not my genre of choice. But I would like to invoke sturgeon's law. I have to find the right shit. I may get into some more complacated manga (I really liked Akira, pages and pages of scenery porn), but not anime -- it's just not my style.LifeCharacter said:
I used to watch a lot of anime. It was so bad that all of my friends were some form of anime NERD (that included my first ex-girlfriend... a whackjob for anything made by Rumiko Takahashi, especially Inu Yasha)IronStorm9 said:
A lot of anime are repetitive... same old situation with a slightly different twist somewhere somehow... Usually involving space aliens that look exactly like humans. A typical good anime series are short, start out funny, and then tries to pass itself off as something to be taken seriously as if ther was a moral to the story form the beginning and then it ends up being a turd *COUGHTRIGUNCOUGH*. Decent anime series are usually dragged out and typically have a shit load of fillers(the Dragonball series, Sailor moon, Evangelion, Gundam, etc.) and just get boring for me.
Pokemon was the worst at the beginning.... %90 of the battles were "use (special attck of verious pokemon)!" as Ash would retort with "PIKACHU, DODGE AND THUNDER(BOLT)/QUICK ATTACK!" "CHHUUUUUUU!" *enemy pokemon deadified from the neck up*
It's not that I don't like any of these series anymore, but a lot of them had lost its appeal to me. i still have some fondness for Yu Yu Hakusho, Dective Conan, and a few select others, but I am no longer one of those weaboo.
I'm going to simplify my answer. It was going to be I don't like the animation styles (plural because I realize they don't all have the same styles, but I don't like the ones I have seen), dialogue, characters, stories, etc...
But I guess I should just be honest: I just don't get Japanese entertainment. Something just gets lost in it all. I guess I can't really say that as a true blanket statement because I enjoy most of the big Nintendo franchises (Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong), but those have clear western influence).
I use to watch Digimon when I was a kid and it seemed good to me for a while until I got older, but then a friend of mine a few years who was heavy into anime tried to get me into some things (Dragonball Z, Naruto, others whose names I can't remember). My reaction was largely staring at the screen confused. It could have a lot to do with my nearly complete lack of knowledge of Asian cultures in general.
So, maybe I don't like anime because I'm ignorant? I'm trying to be honest without pissing the fans off because we all have things we love that others just don't get. I think The Wire was an intense and engaging show, but many of my friends got bored halfway through the first episode.
But I guess I should just be honest: I just don't get Japanese entertainment. Something just gets lost in it all. I guess I can't really say that as a true blanket statement because I enjoy most of the big Nintendo franchises (Zelda, Mario, Metroid, Donkey Kong), but those have clear western influence).
I use to watch Digimon when I was a kid and it seemed good to me for a while until I got older, but then a friend of mine a few years who was heavy into anime tried to get me into some things (Dragonball Z, Naruto, others whose names I can't remember). My reaction was largely staring at the screen confused. It could have a lot to do with my nearly complete lack of knowledge of Asian cultures in general.
So, maybe I don't like anime because I'm ignorant? I'm trying to be honest without pissing the fans off because we all have things we love that others just don't get. I think The Wire was an intense and engaging show, but many of my friends got bored halfway through the first episode.
I love how the anime fans are saying that the reasons for those who don't like anime is cuz haters find cartoons childish. I'm calling shenanigans. I love cartoons.
Anime just takes itself too seriously even when the plot is on flippin' crack.
Durarara, I'm looking at you.
Of course, there are a few good anime. It's just that most of them are terrible.
Anime just takes itself too seriously even when the plot is on flippin' crack.
Durarara, I'm looking at you.
Of course, there are a few good anime. It's just that most of them are terrible.
Half naked girls with ridiculously big breasts.
What's not to love?!?
Oh yeah, the boys with the ridiculously gigantic willies.
What's not to love?!?
Oh yeah, the boys with the ridiculously gigantic willies.
Anime is not a genre, its a medium. It really baffles me when people say they "like" or "hate" anime. Every single person in the world could probably find an anime they really like and one they really hate. I put "Gantz" as one of my favourite TV shows period and I cannot stand a single episode of Pokemon. Anyone who says they hate anime probably just hasn't found the right series yet.
I personally hate anime because I hate the art style. It freaks me the hell out. I just find the huge eyes, small mouths, and crazy hairstyles both annoying and disturbing, and the emotive expressions are just plain horrible (huge angry head with throbbing pulse-point, tears streaming down face, etc.). I'm not even including the irritating, stereotype-clone characters or silly plots.
The only one I could ever stomach was Pokemon when I was a little kid, but that's because I grew up with it. Other than that, I find it insufferable.
Don't even get me started on bishonen.
The only one I could ever stomach was Pokemon when I was a little kid, but that's because I grew up with it. Other than that, I find it insufferable.
Don't even get me started on bishonen.