Why Halo is called innovative?
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Sorry, I wasn't as clear in my post as I should have been, I believe in Starsiege Tribes, definitely the sequel, you could look down and see your body. In the game Redline, you had all manners of vehicular combat from dual laser wielding beach buggies to mini-gun totting muscle cars and mine firing black vans. You could also traipse around in FPS and blow people up.JC Denton said:
There is not many FPS in the world where you can custom make any match you want, adding several different type of vehicles, weapons, and such.
I have not seen any other FPS like it. The amount of awesome it contains is unmatched.
It evolved how FPS are made.
I mean can you think of a multiplayer that has all these cool vehicles like the Elephant on Sandtrap? I think not.
You have forge which has created unlimited possibilities to be made which again not many FPS have on a console. I do not consider mods on the same level because it is not a feature that is part of a game. While mods can create things forge can't, it is more of a hacking the game then it is a feature.
I have not seen any other FPS like it. The amount of awesome it contains is unmatched.
It evolved how FPS are made.
I mean can you think of a multiplayer that has all these cool vehicles like the Elephant on Sandtrap? I think not.
You have forge which has created unlimited possibilities to be made which again not many FPS have on a console. I do not consider mods on the same level because it is not a feature that is part of a game. While mods can create things forge can't, it is more of a hacking the game then it is a feature.
Starsiege Tribes was what got me into FPS games. It was so bloody awesome. Proper, jet fuelled combat in the air, from scout fighters to floating APCs with mods like Tac which was my favourite. In it, you couldn't touch the ground without exploding and you could only stand on concrete or platforms meaning everyone had to go around on the APCs. It was wonderfully tactical and my fondest memory was myself and a few friends managed to fly around on a map for about five hours blasting anything and everything that came our way. You haven't played a fun FPS until you've been ambushed by three light APCS with each carrying two heavies armed with miniguns and plascannons and having your pilot keeping at least two in your firing arcs at all time with almost god like skill.JC Denton said:
A pity though, that around the time of Tribes 2, I couldn't afford to get into the internet thanks to a petty ISP squabble. Tribes 3: Vengeance was also very good if a little cartoony looking but for a single player campaign in what is essentially a game geared towards death match, it was pretty damned good.
For something like forge, go buy timesplitters future perfect or timesplitters 2, the theatre mode is something I haven't seen before though (on a console) but I'm sure SOMEONE did it before Halo 3. Also, I only read the first page so sorry if someone already posted this.hypothetical fact said:
Halo 1 = innovative
Halo 2 = slightly innovative (sorta but not really)
Halo 3 = not innovative, OK shooter
Halo 1 was innovative because it launched the space marine full throtle. It pretty much set the control scheme for all FPS, it perfected combat (for once, both multiplayer and campaign were fun to play). It had the most advanced plot for an FPS that I have seen so far (even beating it's sequels). To say Halo had no innovation is not ignorant, it's stupid. Please, don't be stupid.
And if you need more convincing from someone other than me, remember what Yahtzee said,
"Sometimes you need to remember that popular things are popular for a reason"
Halo 2 = slightly innovative (sorta but not really)
Halo 3 = not innovative, OK shooter
Halo 1 was innovative because it launched the space marine full throtle. It pretty much set the control scheme for all FPS, it perfected combat (for once, both multiplayer and campaign were fun to play). It had the most advanced plot for an FPS that I have seen so far (even beating it's sequels). To say Halo had no innovation is not ignorant, it's stupid. Please, don't be stupid.
And if you need more convincing from someone other than me, remember what Yahtzee said,
"Sometimes you need to remember that popular things are popular for a reason"
Its not really inovative, it was just one of the first good FPSs on a console, otther than Goldeneye.
Because it was the first decent FPS on the Xbox, probably.raxiv said:
Seriously, everything in Halo was done 5 years before....
but Yahtzee hates Halo, QED said ColdStorage like the big literary fag that he is.Hallow said:
Halo 1 was slightly innovative, if they made it like they promised they would then it would be truely innovative, but what they did was pretty much the norm for the PC gamers, apart from the fully working physics engine. That was good, not innovative.
as for the control schemes, nades and melee mapped to a dedicated button has been done by PC gamers as hotkeys and short cuts for about ten years prior to Halo.
It was the first non-pc shooter that didn't look like every game released on the PS2 up till that point.
I loved Halo1 and it has a special place in my heart. But even I'm not willing to say that Halo2-3 are innovative.
What they are is "excellent". They do it better than most, sure, but they do nothing that hasn't been done before.
Honestly, as much as I go on about Killzone 2 and GoW 2, the only FPS I play by myself is Halo 3. It's just a good game, from certain perspectives.
I think that's what happened with Halo 1. It's not innovative. But if you never played the games it was based off of, why go back and play them if Halo 1 is better than 70-80% of them?
I loved Halo1 and it has a special place in my heart. But even I'm not willing to say that Halo2-3 are innovative.
What they are is "excellent". They do it better than most, sure, but they do nothing that hasn't been done before.
Honestly, as much as I go on about Killzone 2 and GoW 2, the only FPS I play by myself is Halo 3. It's just a good game, from certain perspectives.
I think that's what happened with Halo 1. It's not innovative. But if you never played the games it was based off of, why go back and play them if Halo 1 is better than 70-80% of them?
