Why I Fear The Fall of Xbox One
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If the Xbox goes badly and Microsoft choose to leave market it could ruin the gaming market,the last thing you want is no competition.
That assumes that they have the freedom to do so. Microsoft owns a lot of these properties, though not Gears or Mass Effect (and really, how anyone thinks ME is a Microsoft property now that it's gone Playstation is beyond me). They're under no obligation to sell at any point unless the entire company goes under. And given there's a lot "screw yous" in gaming, it's not far-fetched to see this as the outcome.badgersprite said:
Yes, Gears will go elsewhere and ME already has. But what of the properties MS actually owns?
There's a litany of franchises left dead by developer/publisher failure or inactivity and even more properties just sat on. I don't see why people assume altruism from a company like Microsoft.
As long as there is a viable market, there will be competition. Someone else will take the reins, as both Sony and Microsoft have done in the past.CaptQuakers said:
If nobody shows up to take over for Microsoft, there would be much bigger things to worry about.
On the other hand, let's not pretend there's much in the way of competition now.
Rare mostly makes Kinnect games, Gears of War is shit, Mass Effect is done for, (And also shit, although it took hindsight to see it.) and Halo is just Halo (Fun, but utterly forgettable, plus I can see 343 doing much better stuff).
If you compare that to Sony's list of exclusive stuff, Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Quantic Dream, God of War, Kill Zone, Team ICO, Little Big Planet, Journey, and a ton of JRPG's
You can find your fair share of forgettable or shitty games, but there's a lot more quality on display than Microsoft's exclusive catalog.
I don't want to see Sony get a monopoly on what the "non-nintendos" are playing, but I wouldn't give a fuck if every Microsoft exclusive just went away
If you compare that to Sony's list of exclusive stuff, Insomniac, Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, Quantic Dream, God of War, Kill Zone, Team ICO, Little Big Planet, Journey, and a ton of JRPG's
You can find your fair share of forgettable or shitty games, but there's a lot more quality on display than Microsoft's exclusive catalog.
I don't want to see Sony get a monopoly on what the "non-nintendos" are playing, but I wouldn't give a fuck if every Microsoft exclusive just went away
What if this was intentional?
XBox360 wasn't a massive runaway success for them, did they even make any money on it? All the recalls from RROD?
Windows 8 is tanking too (but they've immediately back-pedalled on some of the bad Windows8 calls), could be they're considering cutting their losses and refocussing on their core business model.
It could be that they're looking for a way out of the games industry (or have other plans) and have built the XBox One to do just that. It tanks, they bow out of the market and make their money in other ways. It won't be the first product they've just let die.
Or it could just be that Microsoft made multiple terrible calls with the Feature set, publicity and subsequent handling of the backlash. I mean, consider it - it basically offends on every level. Service availability, Usage restrictions, Privacy intrusions.. It's like it's trying really hard to fail.
If it was so important to them, wouldn't they do more to defend it? Seems like a massive gamble to pin everything on pulling a killer announcement at E3.
XBox360 wasn't a massive runaway success for them, did they even make any money on it? All the recalls from RROD?
Windows 8 is tanking too (but they've immediately back-pedalled on some of the bad Windows8 calls), could be they're considering cutting their losses and refocussing on their core business model.
It could be that they're looking for a way out of the games industry (or have other plans) and have built the XBox One to do just that. It tanks, they bow out of the market and make their money in other ways. It won't be the first product they've just let die.
Or it could just be that Microsoft made multiple terrible calls with the Feature set, publicity and subsequent handling of the backlash. I mean, consider it - it basically offends on every level. Service availability, Usage restrictions, Privacy intrusions.. It's like it's trying really hard to fail.
If it was so important to them, wouldn't they do more to defend it? Seems like a massive gamble to pin everything on pulling a killer announcement at E3.
Well not yet. I mean you've got to save the baby murdering reveal until E3, right?Zeh Don said:
If it were to happen (Unlikely I know) surely Sony would have a monopoly, Do you think anyone would even try and challenge them with such a built in systemZachary Amaranth said:
Microsoft doesn't just own the xbox.
The PC still exists and they can just develop for that. Considering that the Xbone runs a version of windows, it won't be hard to port the games over.
The PC still exists and they can just develop for that. Considering that the Xbone runs a version of windows, it won't be hard to port the games over.
Not quite so. They're sitting on the IP and doing nothing, because they don't *need* to do anything. An investment such as that, at this point (I suppose), they probably don't consider a lucrative-enough idea. However, if push comes to shove, they *will* have to compensate their incredibly-ridiculous expectations, so, worry yourself not.Arnoxthe1 said:
The other thing is, I don't think the Xbone will fail. No matter how many pissed-off and disappointed, albeit devoted, gamers there are, out there, they're not nearly anal-enough to actually boycott the thing. Yes, Microsoft will, of course, announce it a failure, since they do in fact plan on selling nothing short of 9 billion copies, I presume; however, I'm sure that after the initial blow, as long as they still manage to compensate their investment, and if it stays on the market, it'll do just fine. So, yeah, no need to be 'frightened' quite yet.
Edit: Oh, and on a sort of related note: Does anyone really need more Halo games? Wasn't the series supposed to be over, one sequel ago? And yeah, obviously they won't stop milking it, but do people really want more? Don't you think that running the franchise into the ground will actually do it injustice?
Not everyone cares about gaming. What's your point? Should we stop discussing things not everyone cares about?harrisonmcgiggins said:
While I do know that the Xbone is gonna suck a lot, people are still gonna buy it sadly and then complain about their purchases. If it gets to the point to where MS will sell some of the IPs and companies they've been sitting on then I'm all for that. Gonna MS, give Nintendo Rare back, please. I mean you've done nothing with them in so long and giving them back to their old home I'm sure we'd get Banjo Threeie.
That depends if they have a contract with the hardware manufacturers for a guaranteed number of revisions to get the costs down. A good way to get out of that contract is to make the device fail. It may work out cheaper for the console to be made in small numbers and to fail than to pull out of a legal obligation.Zachary Amaranth said:
This is a technique which has been used many many times in industry over the years. Over-spec something so it cannot be a success, pull out when it fails, go do something else.
Never discount something as stupid that can be attributed to malice.