Why is PC gaming "dead"?

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AzrealMaximillion

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It's not dead, but it is smaller than console gaming.
No it's not.
It's bigger than all the consoles put together.
In which way specifically? Cause it's sure as shit not in software sales.

That and the PC just doesn't have as large a range of genres as consoles do.

There are more major and renowned developers for consoles so that's were the investments are.

The PC just hasn't had the amount of classics it did in the 90s.

Now it's crappy console ports, zombies, zombies, zombies, uninspired FPSs and RTSs.
 

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Macrobstar said:
because most people either can't afford a gaming pc, don't have the technical aptitude or can't be bothered to go through all the trouble and setup when a console is just as good and much easier
This. Most casual players/non-players I know think that PC gaming is only for hardcore players.
 

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AzrealMaximillion said:
While PC isn't dead, it's certainly not the most attractive choice for gamers.
Errr... what?

Speak for yourself. PC gaming is the most attractive choice for most PC gamers. That's why most of them ARE PC gamers.
 

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Jaranja said:
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Someone get the picture!
Yessir!

Thank God to see Baldur's Gate in there!

OP: It's not dead. It's just the majority of gamers (And I use that word lightly, because now-a-days "gamer" applies to any chump who owns CoD on his PS3/360) play on consoles. However the majority of "serious" gamers play on PC.
 

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According to a report from BitTorrent news site TorrentFreak, the PC version of Black Ops has been pirated an impressive 4.2 million times. The newest Call of Duty bested Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (3.96 million downloads), Mafia II and Mass Effect 2 to take home the most-stolen crown.

Thieves who own an Xbox 360 did their share in Black Ops stealing, downloading that console version 930,000 times, according to TorrentFreak's numbers. Dante's Inferno wound up being the most downloaded Xbox 360 game, with Super Mario Galaxy 2 sitting atop the most pirated list on for Wii owners. Congratulations all around!

The PC version only sold 800,000!
 

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A main reason that PC gaming seems "dead" is probably because console gaming is doing so well. You see a lot of attention being given towards consoles, mainly because its so much easier to game with a console. PC gaming can take a lot more effort and can't do that much more than consoles. Better processing power and graphics, RTSs and MMORPGs, and modding is the main thing that PCs have going for them as a gaming platform. None the less PC gaming isn't dead. There are still plenty of PC exclusive games (and genres; I mean strategy and MMO games generally work better with a mouse and keyboard) and sales are still doing really good.
 

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PC Gaming is making a comeback from the looks of it, I'm extremely surprised by the amount of people playing StarCraft 2 from school instead of COD on their XBox
 

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I will sum it up for everyone, it's not so much dieing as having the ever loving shit kicked out of it day in day out.

The consumers are confused and utterly turned off by it, We are a plug and play nation, the idea of having to jigger settings and tool the game around to get it to work is just beyond us. I mean just today I spent an hour trying to figure out why a older game was running poorly on a new pc. Trying to tool the settings and run in dx9 and fix the rez and get the frames up and fix the tearing and just fuck me I like the console method better. Buy, insert, play.

This is the problem with the PR for computer games because there is no streamlined figurehead, they shoot for such minor increments and don't wait up. There is no dev kit to pc games they just make games. Concidering everyone's pc is different there is no standard for making games just work which is annoying as all hell.

If they could figure out a way to just have games work flawlessly like they do on consoles for everyone(within reason I.e set design specs everyone has to adhere to for a 1-2 year period instead of whatever specs they want.

And as hard as this is to admit ...sigh.. I am just to dumb to be a pc gamer. I am baffled by all the nooks and crannies I am supposed to assemble and fix so I don't spend my time hating good games because I can't work them.
 

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fluffy chicken 2 said:
According to a report from BitTorrent news site TorrentFreak, the PC version of Black Ops has been pirated an impressive 4.2 million times. The newest Call of Duty bested Battlefield: Bad Company 2 (3.96 million downloads), Mafia II and Mass Effect 2 to take home the most-stolen crown.

Thieves who own an Xbox 360 did their share in Black Ops stealing, downloading that console version 930,000 times, according to TorrentFreak's numbers. Dante's Inferno wound up being the most downloaded Xbox 360 game, with Super Mario Galaxy 2 sitting atop the most pirated list on for Wii owners. Congratulations all around!

The PC version only sold 800,000!
Not sure what you're implicating from that.
But it's one thing to get stuff for free and another to actually pay for stuff.

Torrent numbers doesn't mean anything why? Because I wouldn't pay 10 dollars for codblops because i think it's a shit rehash of MW but give it to me for free, I will take it.

Just because it's been torrented 4.2 million times it doesn't mean they lost 4.2 million sales. Most of the people downloading it probably wouldn't buy it anyway
 

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want me to go on? because i can do this all day.
You're just going to make a pointing hand out of cardboard and a stick and aim it at Steam, aren't you?
It depends on the point made against PC gaming.
Wouldn't it be easier to just leave it pointing there and only move it if Steam isn't the answer?
 

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XT inc said:
The consumers are confused and utterly turned off by it, We are a plug and play nation, the idea of having to jigger settings and tool the game around to get it to work is just beyond us. I mean just today I spent an hour trying to figure out why a older game was running poorly on a new pc. Trying to tool the settings and run in dx9 and fix the rez and get the frames up and fix the tearing and just fuck me I like the console method better. Buy, insert, play.

This is the problem with the PR for computer games because there is no streamlined figurehead, they shoot for such minor increments and don't wait up. There is no dev kit to pc games they just make games. Concidering everyone's pc is different there is no standard for making games just work which is annoying as all hell.

If they could figure out a way to just have games work flawlessly like they do on consoles for everyone(within reason I.e set design specs everyone has to adhere to for a 1-2 year period instead of whatever specs they want.

And as hard as this is to admit ...sigh.. I am just to dumb to be a pc gamer. I am baffled by all the nooks and crannies I am supposed to assemble and fix so I don't spend my time hating good games because I can't work them.
Something like this can happen, but nowadays it doesn't happen much, at least for me. I installed more than 40 games in my PC this year, most of them bought from Steam, and not once did I have to deal with such problems. All are running and my maintenance time spent with them is basically zero.

Consider the following: an old game may give you problems to run on a PC, but there are methods and ways to make it run. If it were a console, you just couldn't run the old game at all (considering it was made for another, older console). Recent PC games tend to work well out of the box, which is amazing considering the whole array of possible hardware configurations.
 

Vault101

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By the lookd of 2011 there are enough upcoming titles to scratch that gaming itch that ARN'T

MMORPG's
online
or RTS
 

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Vault101 said:
I don't quite understand why people have been proclaiming the PC gaming is "dead" for so long I mean I go to the store and there's still a big selection of games..and many games coming out this year

also I know to do it properly you have to buy/build som monstrosity of a machine...but I have my laptop which works reasonably well graphics wise and runs most things on High (though I wouldnt trust it to run Crysis) ok I'm probably not doing it "properly" but anthing that can run far cry 2 on high is good enough for me
A lot of reasons, chief among them simply that the industry is so conflicted as far as it's concerned.


There is an ingrained paranoia about piracy, and whenever a game is released no matter how much money the producers make, some bean counter leads them to believe they could have made ridiculously more money if it wasn't for pirates.

This leads to the DRM "wars" with legitimate buyers getting all peeved about all the limitations put on their software usage. Not to mention the push for digital downloads which would give companies full control, which are increasingly resisted by PC gamers who want to actually own and control physical media. I've seen a lot of anger over the last couple of years from people who bought games on disc only to find tons of online requirements, or how the disc simply connected them to STEAM and gave them a code.

With consoles it's somewhat easier for the companies to control the media, and release downloadable content. Consoles also don't need to be upgraded like PCs, and are easier for the masses to operate. Less filtering abillity also means it's easier to spam users with advertising.

Then of course there is the MMORPG factor, simply put WoW changed the industry so companies can't simply throw together a trashy online game and expect it to make money. With MMORPG gaming taking so much time, a lot of PC gamers are focused on a select few of those games, and just aren't buying as many games as they otherwise would. I know a lot of people who play WoW who talk about how despite the $15 a month subscription fee, it's worth it, since the game keeps them occupied, and they wind up buying a lot less games. Truthfully I think WoW has done a lot to strangle PC gaming as a market all by itself, with other MMOs simply stacking on top of that.

That said, I do not think PC gaming will die. Simply put PCs are everywhere,and people are going to want to game on them. The industry is not going to ignore that potential market, as long as it's there someone will produce for it, even if the production slows.

I think PC gaming is simply "dead" compared to what it used to be. You walk into a gamestop and you don't see more than one or two miserable racks of PC games, when you used to have walls full of them. Nowadays it's almost all consoles.

It's possible things will snap back in the other direction, markets work in cycles, we'll see what happens.