Why is Star Wars: Episode I Looked Upon With Despise?

[reg42]

I actually like the 1st episode. Maybe it's just the kid in me talking (I haven't seen it in years), but I liked it. I did not like the 2nd and 3rd ones however, they were horrible (especially the 3rd one *shudder*)

I prefer the 3rd one to the 2nd, mainly cause in the 3rd Obi-Wan doesn't have a mullet!

I just think Hayden Christensen is an awful actor.

 

[TimeLord]

I actually like the 1st episode. Maybe it's just the kid in me talking (I haven't seen it in years), but I liked it. I did not like the 2nd and 3rd ones however, they were horrible (especially the 3rd one *shudder*)

I prefer the 3rd one to the 2nd, mainly cause in the 3rd Obi-Wan doesn't have a mullet!

I just think Hayden Christensen is an awful actor.

That much is not in dispute. Although it is a tough call whether he is more annoying as a complaining whinny git in Ep2 or a moody light-going to-dark in Ep3

 

[Sixties Spidey]

Took away the subtlety and wonderous mystique that was the Force and replaced them with midichlorians.

Also, this ************.

 

[Warwelde]

I liked Episode 1 and Episode 3. Mainly because they gave Darth Vader a reason to be evil, or whatever you would wanna call him. Though, I never really liked Episode 2, but I can't put my finger on why. I would also say that episode 4-6 are more of "adult" movies, with more story and stuff, while episode 1-3 are more "kid" movies, with JarJar as a comical figure for kids under 13. With that said, STAR WARZ!

 

[reg42]

I actually like the 1st episode. Maybe it's just the kid in me talking (I haven't seen it in years), but I liked it. I did not like the 2nd and 3rd ones however, they were horrible (especially the 3rd one *shudder*)

I prefer the 3rd one to the 2nd, mainly cause in the 3rd Obi-Wan doesn't have a mullet!

I just think Hayden Christensen is an awful actor.

That much is not in dispute. Although it is a tough call whether he is more annoying as a complaining whinny git in Ep2 or a moody light-going to-dark in Ep3

I see... You raise a valid point.

 

[Sixties Spidey]

I actually like the 1st episode. Maybe it's just the kid in me talking (I haven't seen it in years), but I liked it. I did not like the 2nd and 3rd ones however, they were horrible (especially the 3rd one *shudder*)

I prefer the 3rd one to the 2nd, mainly cause in the 3rd Obi-Wan doesn't have a mullet!

I just think Hayden Christensen is an awful actor.

That much is not in dispute. Although it is a tough call whether he is more annoying as a complaining whinny git in Ep2 or a moody light-going to-dark in Ep3

He was as much a whiny ***** in both of them.

 

[General Vagueness]

I don't get the whole thing about the midichlorians, they spent over 30 years providing a degree of explanation and backstory to the entire universe (and apparently he had the idea for them before he was even done with the original movies) and you thought there wouldn't be one for the Force? I'm a Christian so I think I know the feeling but despite what you wanted to believe, it turns out the Force isn't some mystical magical thing, boo-hoo. As for Jar-Jar, I've given up trying to understand it-- he's a little annoying, and he may even be a bad character, but I have no idea how he could drag down a movie, let alone three, that much. Also Anikin didn't really come across as whiny to me although after rewatching I started to see it but it still didn't seem that bad. I'd like to link it but even if I did find it it would probably be in with a bunch of other stuff so I'll describe it: the History channel did a little thing on the cultural impact of Star Wars (and cultures' impact on it) and Kevin Smith (AKA Silent Bob) alluded to the dislike and said "that's who it would be, it would be the whiny kid [that does these things]"-- it's hard to tell what got him to that conclusion but, if you'll excuse the lack of scientificness, it sounds right.

It's as Yahtzee said. Nothing a sequel or remake can do will ever appease the diehard fans.

To quote yahtzee "Fans are annoying complaining dip shits who won't be great full for anything you give them." It's similar to the new Indiana Jones movie, it isn't like the originals, therefore it is shit.

I keep falling back to these or a somewhat elaborated version of them because I don't know how else to classify this.

 

[Kagim]

That's why I hated the stories about "Baby-stealing Jedis" and how they were effectively "dead" to their families. If force ability was a matter of bloodline, why not just take genetic material from power jedis and either create test-tube babies or clones. If the Jedi found that an abhorrent practice why didn't the Sith decide to do something similar. Even with Darth Bane's "Rule of Two" a Sith Master could essentially have created their own apprentice and raised him/her according to the warped Sith philosophy.

That's actually, kinda, explained in the MMO Star Wars Galaxies. Midochlorians can't survive the cloning process so well. Each clone is significantly weaker and the new jedi will have a significantly harder time channeling the force.

At least that's how it was before they turned the game into WoW in Space.

Okay, I can buy the cloning reasoning mostly due to the whole "Copy of a copy" problem. That still doesn't explain why breeding Jedi bloodlines wouldn't work. There's a really obscure part of the EU that says that doesn't work either, but it's so out there than I don't really remember where it's from.

Again there's the inconsistances of "Children of Destiny" vs. "Legacy of the Force". The first is "A person has the force because the living force willed it so." and the second is "I am a Jedi, like my father before me."

The only clear answer seems to be: "Whatever works for the story they're trying to tell."

I was looking forward to the Plaguis/Sidious novel because from what was rumored Anakin's conception was rumored to be a Sith experiment by Plaguis. Which would have been nice because the "Immaculate Conception"-backstory comes with too much baggage being the cornerstone of modern Christianity.

Yeah, the immaculate conception thing pisses me off as well. I have no problem with religon but making Annakin a Jesus character felt weak.

As well i never heard that breeding Jedi Lines wouldn't work, just that no one ever did it. The only time i heard about that sort of thing not working is from Forums, not Cannon soruces.

Whats the name of the novel your talking about, that sounds interesting.

The short answer to this is YES everything does have to be connected else it wouldn't be a saga or a prequel!!!!

I don't mean they don't have to be related. I mean more along the lines of my examples. Things like that bothered me.

Why does the Bobba thing have to happen. R2D2 and C3P0. Every last event being expected. We all walked in knowing Anakin was to become Vadar but WHY does every other event have to feel like it was shoe horned to explain every event in the future series. I am honestly shocked Han Solo's Dad wasn't part of the main cast. My problem isn't that they were related, but that they were so related nothing was a shock or a surprise. Nothing really HAPPENED!!!! it just sorta ...happened....

 

[QuickDEMOL1SHER]

Jake Loyd. Jake Loyd and some more Jake Loyd.

In case you didn't know that's Anakin and he is the number one worst child actor of ALL TIME!

All other problems are forgivable, Jar-Jar, bad writing, Gungans, whatever. Jake Loyd murdered that movie.

 

[WorldCritic]

They gave a scientific explanation to the force and they gave us Jar Jar. And they killed Liam Neeson, those bastards.

 

[JourneyThroughHell]

Hell, it's better than the 5th movie.

EPIC BLASPHEMY.
Seriously, Nam, you just outdid everyone I've ever seen on any forum.
OT: Eh, I liked it.
I didn't even mind Jar-Jar Binks.

 

[JackVykios]

This [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI] guy will explain everything.

I was going to post...but now there's really no point at all...mainly because I can't stop watching this due to its being absolutely fucking hilarious, but also because the arguments he makes are far better than mine could have been.

Also, I've not seen this movie in years. Thankfully.

 

[Hothcliff]

They gave a scientific explanation to the force and they gave us Jar Jar. And they killed Liam Neeson, those bastards.

This, and they failed to characterize Darth Maul.

 

[Skoldpadda]

To quote yahtzee "Fans are annoying complaining dip shits who won't be great full for anything you give them." It's similar to the new Indiana Jones movie, it isn't like the originals, therefore it is shit.

It isn't like the originals, because it lacked soul, therefore it is shit. Unless you're one of those gelatinous creatures (to quote Yahtzee) that love fake plastic special effects and things going boom that have to go even boomer in the sequel and give fuck-all about character development and suspension of disbelief, the prequels (and Indy 4) were decidedly worse than the old films. Indiana Jones 4 was an even bigger disgrace than the Star Wars prequels, and that's up against some pretty stiff competition. It doesn't have anything to do with fans never being grateful (grate-ful), it has everything to do with the films being big piles of shit.

I don't want to be too hard on Lucas, he's done some great things, but I wonder why people don't challenge him. Does he fire anyone who doesn't agree with him, or something? Why didn't Spielberg fight him on the whole aliens-issue in Indy4? It's clear he hated the idea, why did he give up?

I just try to pretend those new films never happened. Watch the making-of-features of the original Star Wars and Indiana Jones films. They had as much fun making it as we had watching it. It was real, it felt real. There was emotion behind the scenes and on the screen. The new films are like 70% blue screen and as a result come over very sterile.

I mean, can you go back to that very first moment when you walked into the theatre for Ep1? Wait, how old are you? Anyway, imagine! You've just rewatched the originals, with their silly non-choreographed but very emotional fight-scenes and their banged-up X-Wings, and you're all pumped up and emotional, those great scenes still wizzing through your brain: eg. Luke going all apeshit on Vader and just banging on him with his lightsaber without any grace or finesse, and then you get this emotionally void drivel, with its improbably sleek looking ships and that fight scene that looks more like a ballet excercise than anything else.
The opening space battle in Ep3 looked like a fucking computer game, for christ's sake.

Clingy complaining dipshits? O RLY?

 

[Richard Hannay]

Demystified the Force (really draws attention to how silly the whole thing is), dialogue so bad it made me self-consciously hide in my own chair, and no likable characters. At all. Even Liam Neeson seemed to be phoning it in. A movie with slightly more ridiculousness than the original trilogy and absolutely none of the charm to make up for it.

 

[CrashBang]

This [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI] guy will explain everything.

Ohmaigawdz that was the best review I've ever seen, especially the asking people to describe the characters part. Brilliant, really well done. Yup, Episode 1 is horrible. When I watch it I feel nothing for the characters, not like in any of the other films. I have to say I don't hate all 3 of the prequel films like a lot of fans do. I only hate episode 1. I actually feel a lot of sympathy for both Obi Wan and Anakin in 2 and 3, but Ep. 1 just makes me so maaaaaad!

 

[dalmiro]

1) Jar Jar binks was just too stupid.
2) The Pod racing scene, my god i thought i was never going to end...
3) The Gungans fight was awfull, too much jar jar and not one good battle scene.
4) I hated Qui-Gon.

 

[Withall]

I'm going to play the Devil's Advocate and ask:

"Well, could you have done it better"?

Devil's advocacy over.

I agree wholly with the casting choice for Anakin and the script. They could have made Anakin a bit older (hence, a completely different actor), and they could have made the dialogue more casual.

While Jar-Jar Binks indeed was an annoying character, the whole scene inside the bongo (the gungan transport sub) helped establish that Jar-Jar was annoying, even to the characters, whose stiff script didn't allow them to react to it (I also imagine that it's very hard to act against a CGI-character).

Lastly. Midiclorians. I am not the first to point out that midiclorians COULD be an -indicator- of "oh, this little pansy is highly attuned to the force", rather than "the reason you can use the force is because of this symbiotic macguffin".

To wrap it all up, I'd like to point one thing out:

Star Wars is, and always has been the intellectual property of George Lucas. It is his world to create, reshape or destroy. If you don't like what he does with it, it is your dislike.

I am aware I (might) sound like a grade A dick here, but that's my stance on it. To those who most likely will be taking offense, all I have done is give my two (hopefully rational) cents on the matter.