Why isn't casual gaming respected?

[katsabas]

The only casuals I know are into internet and facebook games. The problem with some of us 'normal' gamers is that it kind of stings us that we have to pay 50 bucks plus for our fun, while the casuals are getting their fun for free.

They also don't get respected because of the fact that they don't aim to hone their skills on the matter. They simply do it to pass the time. Which is what we do as well but the difference is that we put more time into it.

Apart from these reasons, streamlining titles for casuals has derailed several franchises. No wonder casuals are considered a blight.

 

[Dreiko_v1legacy]

Yeah, not all opinions are equally factually correct or well-rounded, that's why we have experts judging competitions or awards and not any one person who may or may not know crap.

 

[Flailing Escapist]

[sub]CASUAL GAMING IS FOR PUSSIES!!![/sub]
[small]Hold it there, red, just because someone is into casual gaming doesn't mean they aren't also a "core" gamer.[/small]
Thank you, blue, but its more than that. Casual gaming brought a wave of gamers that have never heard of games like Half-life or The Elder Scrolls. They aren't exactly "core" games but I daresay everyone on these forums that considers themselves to be a "core" gamer has heard of them and probably played them.
[sub]CASUAL GAMERS ARE MAKING CORE GAMES WEAKER!!![/sub]
I disagree, I think casual game studios are making core games weaker. This is another reason I like Mass Effect. When ME2 was streamlined the gameplay had much more variety and was much harder than ME1, it's still not very difficult but it didn't conform to every game [sub]AND THEIR MOM!!![/sub] that seems to be rushing to an "Easy only" bakesale.

But I'm not sure casual gaming, by itself, should be respected. I like to sit down and play Viva Pinata every once in a while but we all know that casual gaming is only here at the party to make money and they'll leave once people don't like it anymore only to come back and hour later in a different costume.

 

[Saviordd1]

when i rarely play tf2 then i join servers with no f2p-players so the casual community is kept behind a steelfence, guarded by firelions, on a different continent...in space

f2p-player =/= casual
I am a f2p player and yes, I am definitely not as good as the people who have been playing the game for a long time, but I'm trying to get better. Whenever I mention that I'm a f2p-player, people start foaming at the mouth, saying that I'm part of what's killing the game without actually asking whether I'm a casual player or not. What the fuck do you want me to do?

Apparently be god incarnate at the game, But I know how you feel, the best way to get them to shut up is to own them in a game or two, that really works xD

OT: As 100001 people have said, it's the casual PLAYERS who annoy me, casual games themselves are fine as long as I don't have to endlessly hear about them.

 

[TheSolemnHypnotic]

Because, frankly, gaming is like a lifestyle and casual gamers feel a bit like tourist. Jack from Fight Club= Hardcore gamer Marla= tourist. It's a little off-putting.

 

[thiosk]

Casual gamers are only really disrespected by the folks who fit the classic gamer stereotype of the unwashed adolescent malcontent. Same kind of people who rage on owners of another console or players of a certain game thats typically nearly identical to the one they play


Your youtube videos of codblops knife sprees set to "let the bodies hit the floor" are not threatened by someone playing farmville.

 

[manythings]

Casual gaming communities have ruined a lot of good games like LoL,

Yes, in LoL (and all other DotA copies) its definitely the casual crowd that ruins the community. *snicker*




At least...that was sarcasm, right?

I have to agree with that. It's the psychos who makes those games unplayable. The only way to stand a chance is to basically spend hours working on your in-game strategy and once you have to work to play a game it ceases to be a game, it's a fucking job.

 

[JochemDude]

If you play a game that's meant to be played more 'hardcore' then nope, you'll get no respect playing it casual.

 

[kickyourass]

Because people are fucking morons, and seem to forget that THEY probably started in the exact same position when they got into gaming. Hell when I started gaming, I wasn't playing fucking Halo, I was playing Mario Party, because I was 9, and Halo wasn't meant to be played by 9 year olds.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Because casual gaming doesn't want respect. Casual gaming genuinely doesn't give a shit about anything you or I think or say about it because it's casual. By it's very nature it doesn't need to care so it doesn't.

 

[FreeDoM.]

Haters gonna hate.

 

[josemlopes]

My problem is that a lot of casual games dont show improvements after the previous game, a lot of times they show a mediocre product but still make a lot of money since their main audience isnt all that informed about the subject (they are CASUAL after all).

Some casual games show that they really want to give the player a good experience, even if the game is simple or easy instead of just going after the players wallets.

 

[Naeo]

No idea why. I don't see any reason to have a problem with it. Maybe it's that some people see the title of "Gamer" as a badge that has to be earned or something, and don't want their community of "gamers" populated by people who think that since they play Peggle or Angry Birds they're a "gamer".

Or, sometimes it's the CoD/Battlefield/Halo/etc people getting a superiority complex. These people seem to be the ones to usually argue with no end to the rage about how CoD is better than Battlefield or Halo is better than X or what have you, so it's just an extension of that argument into "my types of games are better than yours".

Frankly, "causal gamers" and "hardcore gamers" are crowds that basically never mix. People who put many many many hours into Oblivion or the FPS of your choice or Starcraft or Civilization or whatever are usually not going to be hanging out around the people who play Peggle or Angry Birds on the bus in the morning/evening or who play Bubbleshooter to burn some time. It seems just as stupid as a prolific novelist criticizing a small-time poet because they're "a casual writer", having not invested as much time into the act. The fundamental logic seems to be "do it all the time or don't do it at all because I don't want you ruining my hobby", which I don't see how that can even be done.

 

[NotYetForsaken]

This is why: http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/330

 

[Krythe]

It breaks our much-reveled feeling that we're some kind of secret society when you realize everyone's doing it. So they trashtalk to newcommers. Bascially, you're staring down a nostalgia crowd that doesn't know how to deal with modern changes.

I don't think games were better when everything was hard, but at the same time, I feel like the storytelling aspect has gone down lately. Also I hate the 'real=brown' trend. I'm not entirely sure casuals are to blame for that, though.

 

[HydraMoon]

Because people love to find a reason to feel superior to other people. It's just that simple.

Give two people a stick and a third person a rock- the same thing will happen.

 

[Kair]

Casual gaming isn't respected as opposed to hardcore gaming just as kicking a ball around isn't as respected as association football.