Why Little Pony?

[JochemDude]

You can't judge something unless you experienced it yourself. Maturity isn't judging, maturity is acceptance and tolerance. If this doesn't sound too 'childish' for you guys, I think people can still learn a lot from it. Not due to how they bring it (especially not to how they bring it), but the message is too respect others and have a good time 'together' and I can't help to think that that is a rare trait these days.

 

[TriGGeR_HaPPy]

For almost all of the responses against it, please look at the following image. This is Lauren Faust herself responding to a message she got:
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkl33sCMXz1qdv1gso1_500.jpg

There are those who don't like the show because they've watched more than just the first 2 episodes, and still don't like it. If you've watched any of episode 3 onwards, and still don't like it, then I've got no beef with you.

But those who are just spouting uninformed opinions on the show because they think it'll be like the previous generations of MLP, then complain because we're trying to at least get them to give it a shot, or to stop commenting on it? I mean... Really?

Tell me WHY, and i want a good reason, WHY I WOULD WATCH THE SHOW AT ALL.

AT ALL.

You say my argument is invalid because i havent watched the show- my argument is that noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Mabie you have to be High or really, really drunk to understand it.

Did... Did you not read from the image I posted at all before responding?
Lauren Faust, one of the main driving forces behind the latest generation in its entirety, stated that "I didn't create this show for little girls, I created it for little girls and their parents -- including male parents. It only stands to reason that adult animation fans without children may like it, too."

So your statement that "noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE" is wrong, because the show is not just made for little girls.

I'm not saying you should watch the show at all. I'm saying that if you're going to comment on the show, at least watch any episode past (and including) episode 3 the whole way through.

I say that, because while episode 1 and 2 are pretty good once you're already a fan, they're not the best episodes to introduce someone to the series with, because they have a rather different feel to them, and thus aren't really good to introduce people to the series with because they don't really present the series in the right way.

It's the same as the fact that you wouldn't really take a comment about a show you like, from another person who has never seen any episode from the show, seriously.
E.g. Think about a show/movie/whatever you really like, and a lot of other people do, too. Right? Okay. Now imagine that every time you bring it up, I started going up to you, and anyone around you, and stated that the show is terrible. Truly, honestly terrible. You then ask if I've seen that show at all. I say no, but keep spouting what I'm saying as if it were in any way an objective fact. I'm not saying this would colour your opinion of me, but surely that would bug you a little if I did this every time you brought up a good show that you liked?

You misundestand me. I never said the show was Terrible. I IMPLIED it. I cant state the show is horrible- as you say, i havent seen it- and at NO POINT have i said i have.

WHAT I AM SAYING is that from face value, which, to anything in this world, is most important, this show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Ill say that again;

This show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Understand?

I didnt say ive watched it (God Forbid)
I havent said its horrible (I implied it)

And in addition, you state
"So your statement that "noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE" is wrong, because the show is not just made for little girls."

So, i either need to be a Little girl, or a married man watching the show WITH a little girl?

How many people on here fill those two roles? I think the idea behing Whats-Her-Face's message is that
1) your a little girl
2) your a parent of said little girl watching the TV show together.

NOT

a 20 year old dude sitting at his computer watching it alone. Coz thats what i think most of you are doing.

Terribly sorry. That example was more meant as a general example for some people in this thread. I didn't articulate that, and I apologise.
If you would (to make it an example more directed for you individually), please assume I said in my example that I implied that the show/movie/whatever you like is terrible/horrible, then.

For your sake (and to remain on-topic), I'm going to ignore the fact that you just stated that the for everything in this world, it's most important to be judged by what is shown at face value, because that's not what we're here to discuss... You can't just state that it's the most important thing, and then not back it up. If you do, then I'll provide some points against it. Until then, there's really no need for me to, since I can just say "No, it's actually not the most important thing, but until more points are provided either way then this is all just subjective chitter-chatter, and has no real place here".

"So, i either need to be a Little girl, or a married man watching the show WITH a little girl?"
I'm not actually sure how you got that from what Faust said, apart from possibly purposefully mis-reading what she's stated... From what she said, it was implied that basically any person who is an animation fan, including teen/adult males, can enjoy it. Y'know, when she plainly stated that "It only stands to reason that adult animation fans without children may like it, too."
Which is not what you've said. And since I've posted that twice (in my previous post, and the post before that in the picture), I can only assume you either keep missing it (entirely understandable ^_^ ), or are purposefully ignoring that part. I'm hoping it's merely the former.

 

[BlackWidower]

Sorry guys, but uc.asc turned me off of the show by warning me of the horrible corny musical bits. Sorry!

There are a few "corny musical bits" but they're bearable by a certain self-awareness. As Pinkie Pie sings her terrible songs the others look at each other as if to say, "When will the pain end?"

 

[BlackWidower]

WHAT I AM SAYING is that from face value, which, to anything in this world, is most important, this show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Face value is the most important thing? Funny you should say that, because MLP had an episode all about that.

It was about a zebra entering town, and everyone assuming she was up to no good because she was different. I'd like to remind you that zebras are from Africa. So basically I'm calling you a racist.

 

[rayen020]

Because it is. it is a meme and for once it's over a show with actual quality production. Bronies, "the herd", its all just normal byproducts. i watched the show, its awesome. its one of the few cartoons on air that puts comedy over stupidity. its a show that talks to its audience instead of down to it's audience. I could go on extolling its virtues but there posted everywhere all over the internet. The simple reason to like it is because it was made for little girls but not exclusively for little girls and therefore has elements that will appeal to everyone, big, small, male, or female.

Do you want a reason to watch it? fine. here is one. It is a provably good show. I know it comes down to personal taste, but if you watch it you're more likely to say "This isn't good enough" rather than "this is bad." once and awhile something comes along that is popular because it's generally good.

And to the trolls,
Yes, haters are indeed going to hate, so i shouldn't even be trying to dissuade you, but this is futile. you don't want to watch it? fine don't. but this is a community that feeds on controversy. Saying they're girly, gay, or stupid for liking a show that for little girls will only feed their fervor. It's useless but like many things talking bad about it only shows them that you are insecure about something. maybe you are, maybe you aren't, but the heyday of the machismo MAN's man has passed. all you're doing is giving attetion to it. and if you haven't watched the show all the fans are going to do is ignore whatever argument you have and say go watch it before you knock it.

 

[DEAD34345]

because escapists wish they were on 4chan

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic

For as much as Escapists tend to blindly insult 4chan they sure do wallow in the same shit they do.

This MLP crap reminds me of Portal. Some popular and wide spread that I can't stand it. Now I actually played Portal and know it's a good game. As a result I didn't hate Portal, just it's obnoxious fan base. Same can't be said for MLP. Hate the fans and hate the show by association. Which isn't really fair since I'm sure the show isn't bad, certainly not when compared to most modern children's shows. But that's the thing; it's a show primarily made for little girls. I can't justify sitting down and forcing myself to watch it on youtube when I could be, say, designing and elaborate trap to torture goblins in Dwarf Fortress. Rainbows sparkles and sunshine and friendship do not appeal to me at this point.

EDIT: It doesn't help that a lot of the fans have this weird cult-like mentality when the second they see someone who doesn't know much about this they immediately try to indoctrinate them.

My Little Pony meshes perfectly with Dwarf Fortress, there's even a mod that makes them a playable faction in the game. Which rule is it again that states there's a pony version of everything?

Regardless, thanks for linking two great things in my mind, and if there are any other people who are both My Little Pony fans and Dwarf Fortress fans (referring to myself, not you Kraken) then give this mod a try! http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=80240.0
Judging by the stuff that usually happens in Dwarf Fortress, having it happen to magical Ponies can only make it more hilarious.

Also, with regards to the "weird cult-like mentality" I think it usually happens due to a genuine desire to let other people see this great show. It is frustrating when people turn their noses at something you consider great before even trying it. When people give the show a shot and decide they still don't like it, the Bronies back down, at least in my experience.

 

[Jimmybobjr]

WHAT I AM SAYING is that from face value, which, to anything in this world, is most important, this show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Face value is the most important thing? Funny you should say that, because MLP had an episode all about that.

It was about a zebra entering town, and everyone assuming she was up to no good because she was different. I'd like to remind you that zebras are from Africa. So basically I'm calling you a racist.

Uhm... were talking about Ponys here, not African Zebras.

And calling someone racist isnt insulting.
If i am racist, its a success to the racist. If im not, then your just a idiot.

Turns out, im not racist. so... That must mean...

 

[TheAmokz]

Its CUTE. And well written overall for a kids show.

 

[Zeetchmen]

Because ponies are awesome of course.

That and google is your friend

 

[Jimmybobjr]

For almost all of the responses against it, please look at the following image. This is Lauren Faust herself responding to a message she got:
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkl33sCMXz1qdv1gso1_500.jpg

There are those who don't like the show because they've watched more than just the first 2 episodes, and still don't like it. If you've watched any of episode 3 onwards, and still don't like it, then I've got no beef with you.

But those who are just spouting uninformed opinions on the show because they think it'll be like the previous generations of MLP, then complain because we're trying to at least get them to give it a shot, or to stop commenting on it? I mean... Really?

Tell me WHY, and i want a good reason, WHY I WOULD WATCH THE SHOW AT ALL.

AT ALL.

You say my argument is invalid because i havent watched the show- my argument is that noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Mabie you have to be High or really, really drunk to understand it.

Did... Did you not read from the image I posted at all before responding?
Lauren Faust, one of the main driving forces behind the latest generation in its entirety, stated that "I didn't create this show for little girls, I created it for little girls and their parents -- including male parents. It only stands to reason that adult animation fans without children may like it, too."

So your statement that "noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE" is wrong, because the show is not just made for little girls.

I'm not saying you should watch the show at all. I'm saying that if you're going to comment on the show, at least watch any episode past (and including) episode 3 the whole way through.

I say that, because while episode 1 and 2 are pretty good once you're already a fan, they're not the best episodes to introduce someone to the series with, because they have a rather different feel to them, and thus aren't really good to introduce people to the series with because they don't really present the series in the right way.

It's the same as the fact that you wouldn't really take a comment about a show you like, from another person who has never seen any episode from the show, seriously.
E.g. Think about a show/movie/whatever you really like, and a lot of other people do, too. Right? Okay. Now imagine that every time you bring it up, I started going up to you, and anyone around you, and stated that the show is terrible. Truly, honestly terrible. You then ask if I've seen that show at all. I say no, but keep spouting what I'm saying as if it were in any way an objective fact. I'm not saying this would colour your opinion of me, but surely that would bug you a little if I did this every time you brought up a good show that you liked?

You misundestand me. I never said the show was Terrible. I IMPLIED it. I cant state the show is horrible- as you say, i havent seen it- and at NO POINT have i said i have.

WHAT I AM SAYING is that from face value, which, to anything in this world, is most important, this show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Ill say that again;

This show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Understand?

I didnt say ive watched it (God Forbid)
I havent said its horrible (I implied it)

And in addition, you state
"So your statement that "noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE" is wrong, because the show is not just made for little girls."

So, i either need to be a Little girl, or a married man watching the show WITH a little girl?

How many people on here fill those two roles? I think the idea behing Whats-Her-Face's message is that
1) your a little girl
2) your a parent of said little girl watching the TV show together.

NOT

a 20 year old dude sitting at his computer watching it alone. Coz thats what i think most of you are doing.

Terribly sorry. That example was more meant as a general example for some people in this thread. I didn't articulate that, and I apologise.
If you would (to make it an example more directed for you individually), please assume I said in my example that I implied that the show/movie/whatever you like is terrible/horrible, then.

For your sake (and to remain on-topic), I'm going to ignore the fact that you just stated that the for everything in this world, it's most important to be judged by what is shown at face value, because that's not what we're here to discuss... You can't just state that it's the most important thing, and then not back it up. If you do, then I'll provide some points against it. Until then, there's really no need for me to, since I can just say "No, it's actually not the most important thing, but until more points are provided either way then this is all just subjective chitter-chatter, and has no real place here".

"So, i either need to be a Little girl, or a married man watching the show WITH a little girl?"
I'm not actually sure how you got that from what Faust said, apart from possibly purposefully mis-reading what she's stated... From what she said, it was implied that basically any person who is an animation fan, including teen/adult males, can enjoy it. Y'know, when she plainly stated that "It only stands to reason that adult animation fans without children may like it, too."
Which is not what you've said. And since I've posted that twice (in my previous post, and the post before that in the picture), I can only assume you either keep missing it (entirely understandable ^_^ ), or are purposefully ignoring that part. I'm hoping it's merely the former.

1) Okay, i forgive you.
2) Okay, you implied. You have no information on the facts you are giving, and therefore, i dont care.
3) Okay Backing up my personal idea that everything on this world is based on face value

Lets see...

Okay, a easy one.

Im at the shops, and i see a Banana. One banana is Yellow. One Banana Has a massive bruse down its side. This bruse is no indicator of what is inside said banana. But, most people will buy the Yellow Banana.

This applies to basicaly everything: You see something you dont like, you dont associate it.

And someones going to mention How you should base something like a relationship on personality etc.

thats bullshit

Say your at a club. You go up and talk to a girl (Or boy)

Now, did you talk to this person because of his/her sparkling personality? Her likes and dislikes? NO. YOU DONT KNOW THEM. You are only acting on what you see- FACE VALUE. If He/She happens to have a great personality or whatever, then good for you. you might even use that as a central point for your relationship. But, the thing that started it, the thing that MADE you talk to Him/Her was thier FACE VALUE.

4) I admit, that i DID NOT read that last line. Im sorry. But it doesnt change anything. What is a animation fan? Someone who is a critic? someone who watches something Just for the ANIMATION? It reminds me of how Movie Bob is going lately- he doesnt watch the movies for the movie, just how the movie is made.

 

[Kyoufuu]

My Little Pony meshes perfectly with Dwarf Fortress, there's even a mod that makes them a playable faction in the game. Which rule is it again that states there's a pony version of everything?

85, I believe.

 

[BlackWidower]

WHAT I AM SAYING is that from face value, which, to anything in this world, is most important, this show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Face value is the most important thing? Funny you should say that, because MLP had an episode all about that.

It was about a zebra entering town, and everyone assuming she was up to no good because she was different. I'd like to remind you that zebras are from Africa. So basically I'm calling you a racist.

Uhm... were talking about Ponys here, not African Zebras.

And calling someone racist isnt insulting.
If i am racist, its a success to the racist. If im not, then your just a idiot.

Turns out, im not racist. so... That must mean...

Yes, but in that episode, one of the characters was a zebra.

Also, you're right, I apologize, that was uncouth, calling you a racist. But the point is, you are judging a book by it's cover. Not even opening it to see what it's about. How is that any different then judging someone by the colour of their skin? You are judging MLP on it's name and it's target audience, failing to realize that it might have an appeal outside that target.

I don't mean to get all ad populum out here but I should point out it has a huge fanbase. There is a chance that there's a reason for that. Though I know you will say it's probably because we're all gay or into bestiality, but I can tell you for a fact that is not true.

 

[Jimmybobjr]

IM insecure with my masculinity? Uhm...

Im not watching a show about ponies.

When I first saw one of my friends watching it, I burst out laughing. They told me it was genuinely a good show, and to give it a try. I thought, might as well, see if I like it, and if I do, then sure, I like it. Turns out I do like it, and I'm fine with that, I'm comfortable in my masculinity.

You aren't even giving it one try, not even to confirm your suspicions about it being bad. If you are, as you suggest, secure in your masculinity, then you will at least watch one episode (Dragonshy, btw) to prove that it's as bad as you think. If you aren't willing to 'risk it', even when you're so completely sure that it's bad, then yes, you are insecure in your masculinity.

a 20 year old dude sitting at his computer watching it alone. Coz thats what i think most of you are doing.

I recently went to a bronies cocktail night, where about 10 of us (most of whom I'd not met in person before, they were friends of friends) who got together and watched every episode of the series, as well as a bunch of other clips, and generally hung out, drunk pony cocktails, and had a blast. Making friends with absolutely no effort was a lot of fun too. Your argument is invalid.





But you'll probably dismiss my post. After all, I'm one of -them-, aren't I? So everything I say is false.

you people seem to overly protective.

Okay, breaking down:

1) WHY ON EARTH do you people keep trying to get me to watch it? I dont want to, i wont, and i never will. Im sure that ive made that clear.

And i am reaaaaly confused how the fact that i dont watch the show makes me insecure about how manly i am. I admit, im not as manly as most people, but i put that towards my upbringing, and not the point im trying to make.

Argh.. What i mean to say there, is that By watching a show about ponies will make me more confident, or manlier? Or something?

2) Sounds like fun. I never said you guys or girls cant watch this show. And if you guys want to go meet up and watch this show, go ahead.(But what the fuck is a pony Cocktail) infact, by having 10 people that you know that watch this show personaly, and are on the point of having a cocktail party, good for you. you're about 10 steps above me.

3) Why, exactialy, is my argument invalid? By ignoring the entire argument, you are ignoring the entire point of this thread. So, therefore, your post will be invalid. By defending yourself, and this show, like you are, you are acknoledging my argument. So its cant be invalid.

4) Ive never said that anythin is falce- ive only stated my personal opinion. I mean, jeez. Sorry, didnt mean to really upset you.

 

[Jimmybobjr]

WHAT I AM SAYING is that from face value, which, to anything in this world, is most important, this show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Face value is the most important thing? Funny you should say that, because MLP had an episode all about that.

It was about a zebra entering town, and everyone assuming she was up to no good because she was different. I'd like to remind you that zebras are from Africa. So basically I'm calling you a racist.

Uhm... were talking about Ponys here, not African Zebras.

And calling someone racist isnt insulting.
If i am racist, its a success to the racist. If im not, then your just a idiot.

Turns out, im not racist. so... That must mean...

Yes, but in that episode, one of the characters was a zebra.

Also, you're right, I apologize, that was uncouth, calling you a racist. But the point is, you are judging a book by it's cover. Not even opening it to see what it's about. How is that any different then judging someone by the colour of their skin? You are judging MLP on it's name and it's target audience, failing to realize that it might have an appeal outside that target.

I don't mean to get all ad populum out here but I should point out it has a huge fanbase. There is a chance that there's a reason for that. Though I know you will say it's probably because we're all gay or into bestiality, but I can tell you for a fact that is not true.

I HAVE SIX POSTS TO RESPOND TO, SLOW DOWN PEOPLE!

1) okay, sure whatever.
2) Yes, i am judging a book by its cover. People, since the dawn of time, have.
in fact, almost certanly, if i had only the judgement of the colour of skin-no prior knowledge- i would be racist. as would nearly everyone. thats human nature. Thankfully, people now have that knowledge, and racism is quickly becoming a thing of the past.

3) I have Never- NEVER - Said ANY of you is gay, or into freaky porn. I NEVER even IMPLIED IT.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, I AM NOT LIKE THAT.

 

[Jimmybobjr]

my argument is that noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Why are you so desperate to gain the high ground in this topic?

If you refuse to watch a genuinely good show simply because you're insecure in your masculinity than that's your problem.

Wait, what?

IM insecure with my masculinity? Uhm...

Im not watching a show about ponies.

I know I'm a man, I don't let the fact I enjoy cartoons to get in the way of that, you however seem to be so afraid of being judged as being "Feminine" that you attack a show that you've never even seen.

You're Kanji, from Persona 4, aren't you?

I have already explained my opinion of masculinity on a post above.
And i have no idea who Kanji is, and i CBF looking it up, its 12:15 and i wanna go to bed.

 

[Jimmybobjr]

For almost all of the responses against it, please look at the following image. This is Lauren Faust herself responding to a message she got:
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkl33sCMXz1qdv1gso1_500.jpg

There are those who don't like the show because they've watched more than just the first 2 episodes, and still don't like it. If you've watched any of episode 3 onwards, and still don't like it, then I've got no beef with you.

But those who are just spouting uninformed opinions on the show because they think it'll be like the previous generations of MLP, then complain because we're trying to at least get them to give it a shot, or to stop commenting on it? I mean... Really?

Tell me WHY, and i want a good reason, WHY I WOULD WATCH THE SHOW AT ALL.

AT ALL.

You say my argument is invalid because i havent watched the show- my argument is that noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Mabie you have to be High or really, really drunk to understand it.

Did... Did you not read from the image I posted at all before responding?
Lauren Faust, one of the main driving forces behind the latest generation in its entirety, stated that "I didn't create this show for little girls, I created it for little girls and their parents -- including male parents. It only stands to reason that adult animation fans without children may like it, too."

So your statement that "noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE" is wrong, because the show is not just made for little girls.

I'm not saying you should watch the show at all. I'm saying that if you're going to comment on the show, at least watch any episode past (and including) episode 3 the whole way through.

I say that, because while episode 1 and 2 are pretty good once you're already a fan, they're not the best episodes to introduce someone to the series with, because they have a rather different feel to them, and thus aren't really good to introduce people to the series with because they don't really present the series in the right way.

It's the same as the fact that you wouldn't really take a comment about a show you like, from another person who has never seen any episode from the show, seriously.
E.g. Think about a show/movie/whatever you really like, and a lot of other people do, too. Right? Okay. Now imagine that every time you bring it up, I started going up to you, and anyone around you, and stated that the show is terrible. Truly, honestly terrible. You then ask if I've seen that show at all. I say no, but keep spouting what I'm saying as if it were in any way an objective fact. I'm not saying this would colour your opinion of me, but surely that would bug you a little if I did this every time you brought up a good show that you liked?

You misundestand me. I never said the show was Terrible. I IMPLIED it. I cant state the show is horrible- as you say, i havent seen it- and at NO POINT have i said i have.

WHAT I AM SAYING is that from face value, which, to anything in this world, is most important, this show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Ill say that again;

This show is NOT sutable for any self respecting person above the age of 8.

Understand?

I didnt say ive watched it (God Forbid)
I havent said its horrible (I implied it)

And in addition, you state
"So your statement that "noone other than the little girls the show is made for SHOULD HAVE WATCHED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE" is wrong, because the show is not just made for little girls."

So, i either need to be a Little girl, or a married man watching the show WITH a little girl?

How many people on here fill those two roles? I think the idea behing Whats-Her-Face's message is that
1) your a little girl
2) your a parent of said little girl watching the TV show together.

NOT

a 20 year old dude sitting at his computer watching it alone. Coz thats what i think most of you are doing.

The amount of ignorance and immaturity in this is astounding, your like all those people who blasted mass effect as some sort of porn simulator without even playing the game, go watch the show, if you still don't like it then say why in a constructive manner, instead of jumping on the hatred bandwagon riding purely on judging it by first glance

Edit: and the way you respond to those who challenge your bias only further backs up what I have to say

1) Mass Effect's porn contrevercy and this are seperate arguments, for a start.
Mass effect, at first glance, is a Sci-Fi Shooter With RPG elements, with aliens thrown in.
MLP is a Children's show about Baby Horses singing about friendship.

Thats a first glance.

2) I aint watching the bloody show. Jeez.

3) I am biast. Thats the entire point. Bias=Opinion. My opinion is Bias. So, you are COMPLETELY right at saying im Biast. I Have EVERY RIGHT to defend my opinion. When you chalange my opinion, i chalange yours. THATS THE POINT.

 

[Jimmybobjr]

And finaly, a post that isnt a responce- im bored of this, its nearly half past midnight, and i wanna go to sleep. im signing off this thread, so dont be surprised when i dont respond to your posts and (AW COMEON, ANOTHER RESPONCE) dont ever come back. (ANOTHER RESPONCE) So, have fun, go ahead and spam my quotes, i wont be listening. Goodnight.

I seriously got 3 responces to my posts... god you people are dedicated, ill give you that.

EDIT: Whoops, Two responces.