Why should I buy BFBC2?

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omega 616

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Danny Ocean said:
omega 616 said:
I think it's far superior to MW2, knfers can't lunge at you, shotguns are usless, no kill streaks, very few "perks" (you can either have more health or more powerful ammo), very few glitches (that I have encountered) and to me far more balanced.
Apparently the perks don't actually do that much either. I heard somewhere that magnum ammo only increases the damage to 125% of what it is normally, which is puny.

I love this game. I'd say it's way better than MW2. I got to the top level in that game then stopped, because I found that every single time I played I'd come off via a ragequit, even thought I did very well.

MW2 is more arcadey, and surprisingly you die more easily.

BC2 tends to be more serious business. It's also more difficult to do well when you go out on your own (The top kill streak reward is 8, for example).

There are vehicles which work well. It's balanced more thoroughly than MW2. The maps are bigger, and the graphics better.

However if you've just come from MW2 you'll be in for a shock. The game feels slow and clunky by comparison, and there's bullet drop, of course. I got used to it pretty fast, though.

I'd say buy it. I only have it on PC, however. The adjustable sensitivity on here lets me bypass all the slow movements inherent with gamepads, so you might have a different experience if you get it on console.
125% damage increase is puny? I am not great at math but isn't that more than double damage? Or did you mean to put 25%?

The only problem with vehicles is you have to be a mechanic to deal with them easily or recon to deal with them in a more tricky way. Medics and assault have no chance against them.
 

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omega 616 said:
125% damage increase is puny? I am not great at math but isn't that more than double damage? Or did you mean to put 25%?

The only problem with vehicles is you have to be a mechanic to deal with them easily or recon to deal with them in a more tricky way. Medics and assault have no chance against them.
Damage is 100% normally, MGNM Ammo ups it to 125%, not by 125%. In other terms, it makes it do an extra quarter damage, or 5/4 of what it was originally.

And that's a good thing, because both Assault and Medic absolutely pwn infantry. Hell the sole purpose of the assault kit is to kill infantry. I really don't think that either of them should be made any good against vehicles.
 

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First off I enjoy BC2 a great deal, but seriously you shouldn't buy a game just because people tell you too. I would say rent it and see if YOU like it, if you do great and if not that's great too. Personal choices I say.
 

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reecedempsey said:
my god man i didnt misspell anything so ther was no as you put it "red squiggly" but im asking is there a hotkey for spell chesk like microsoft word
Hey, just to help you out with the spell check thing. There is no F7 shortcut that I know of, but if you right click in the... uh.. I guess the writing space? It will show the regular list of options and whatnot. Second to last is "Spell check this field", just make sure it's on (little check mark shows up) and you should be fine.

OP: I've been playing BC2 for a few weeks now and I'd have to say, the best times are those times you're working with your friends to complete your objective. As for what makes the teamwork so important: I'd have to say spawning. You can spawn off your squad mates or at your base. So a fun tactic is having one guy sneak into the attic of a building and in a few seconds you have a third of your team in there, right on top of the enemy. It seems unbalanced but it works both ways. Either way, in my book, BFBC2 trumps CoDMW2.
 

omega 616

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Danny Ocean said:
omega 616 said:
125% damage increase is puny? I am not great at math but isn't that more than double damage? Or did you mean to put 25%?

The only problem with vehicles is you have to be a mechanic to deal with them easily or recon to deal with them in a more tricky way. Medics and assault have no chance against them.
Damage is 100% normally, MGNM Ammo ups it to 125%, not by 125%. In other terms, it makes it do an extra quarter damage, or 5/4 of what it was originally.

And that's a good thing, because both Assault and Medic absolutely pwn infantry. Hell the sole purpose of the assault kit is to kill infantry. I really don't think that either of them should be made any good against vehicles.
The engineer has a machine gun comparable to assault machine guns and both have handguns but the engineer can cope better with tanks due to it's rocket launcher.

The only advantage a medic has is you don't have to reload as often.
 

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Foggy_Fishburne said:
danpascooch said:
Foggy_Fishburne said:
A long post promoting BC2 being sniped
Balance is SO important to me, I'm so sick of all the little tricks in MW2, and the akimbo shotguns just PISS ME OFF, if only I could borrow it from a friend first for a test run, I could rent it as a trial, but then you know....if I buy it I just wasted like $10.
Dude I feel your pain, believe me. To be honest, I didn't think I'd like BC2 that much. Having played CoD4 which is fast paced and always rotating. But man, it took me a week and now I'm in love with it :D I'm actually considering BC2 being better than CoD 4 multiplayer wise!

Aye the broken set-ups of perks, all that you can think of, combined with rediculously overpowered weapons, is gone in BC2. That alone should convince anyone who's played the rat infested donkey shit that is MW2. I say rent it or play it at a friends house. It'll get some time to get used to it, you won't be a master on your first go.

But holy shit, since you actually have to be good to kill people, can you imagine firing all 5 shots with the M24 sniper rifle and getting 5 headshots, then the enemy is closing in and you pull out your GRAH and shoot down 2 more and then a fucker pops up from the side and you knife him. Or when you shoot down a helicopter with a T-90 tank. Or when you perform a road kill with a UAV. I'm telling you, this game gives you such incredible satisfaction because it's actually hard to kill someone! Skills is vital, teamwork imperitive. Some won't like it but I LOVE IT. Seriously, I haven't had this much fun in a multiplayer since before I bought MW2.

If someone would hold a gun to my head and ask me to summurize BC2 in three words it'd be: Balance, Skills, Fun. Definetly. In my eyes, this is a perfect buy. I'm currently trying to persuade my friends and my kid brother to buy it. Happy Hunting!
Vehicles and destructible environments are the big selling points for me, I'm gonna have to at least try it out.
 

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Danny Ocean said:
danpascooch said:
I borrowed and beat (1000/1000 gs too) MW2 from a friend, and I do like it, but I am very intrigued by the "teamwork is important" aspect that I hear from EVERYONE about BF2, my question is what makes teamwork more important in BF2 than in MW2, because everyone says it is, but nobody ever gives a reason :(
Because
1. If you go one-on-one with a vehicle you will almost certainly lose. Unless you're really good.

2. Due to the way the game is set up (Defibrillators, ammo boxes, motion sensors, rocket launchers; each class has it's specific use.), people tend to run around in small groups.

3. Again, unless you're really good (Or me =P) you'll almost certainly get killed by the larger group.

4. Partly 2, sticking with your teammates gets you healed, resupplied, revived, and backed up against vehicles.

5. There's cross-class support. The engineer, for example, has a rocket launcher. Anyone can carry a special pistol that puts a homing dart on a vehicle. The engineer's rockets now track the vehicle.

6. Each class makes up for the weaknesses of the others.

7. You can combine vehicle perks when inside vehicles. You could have two guys in a tank, one with armour+, one with reload+, and both those effects would be applied.

There's just this general idea that working together will help you win. It's also more fun that way. On top of that you'll get more enemies working together because that's the premise of the game, so if you go lone wolf, you're toast.
Defibs? Motion Sensors? HOLY SHIT!

Quick question, if I get pulled over going 120mph to Gamestop right now, do you think the police would give me ticket if I explained the situation?
 

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reecedempsey said:
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Karhax said:
Don't buy it for the singleplayer, the multiplayer is quite a lot better than MW2.
thats weird because the cover art features the very well charcterised NPCs and the title is the actual name of the singleplayer squad your in it has barley a mention of multiplayer and besides if a games singleplayer is shit dont buy it every game has to stand up on single player alone with multiplayer thrown in as a gimmick thats why half life worked however if its multiplayer only then it will proberbly be shit becaus all multiplayer only games are full of six year olds and americans
No offense, but that comment was a pretty big fail. We like proper spelling and grammar 'round these parts, plus quoting Yahtzee rather than giving a unique opinion is just annoying. (I criticize because I care)
first of all im dyslsic so grammar and spelling are quite hard for me second of all you are quoting me you filthy hippocrite
1. There IS a spellchecker, you know.

2. The reason I quoted you is so that you could respond, and that people would know I'm talking to you, and not anyone else.

3. If your dyslexic, how come you know what I'm talking about? (Sherlock Holmes hasn't got shit on my deductive skills)
1. dindt know that is it the same as the one for word

2.fair enough

3.dyslecsic has no affect on your intellegence it simply makes things harder to spell and affects your ability with gramatical errors not your logic and deduction skills
1.) There is still a spell check, as a dyslexic you should still be able to see a red squiggly and right click it. For example, I misspelled dyslexic twice while writing this, but I took the 3.5 seconds to fix it with spell check.
my god man i didnt misspell anything so ther was no as you put it "red squiggly" but im asking is there a hotkey for spell chesk like microsoft word
What DIDN'T you misspell, seriously, if you think all the things you just posted were grammatically correct, I nor any spell checker can help you, simply turn off your computer, and go sit in the corner.
 

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Hazy said:
danpascooch said:
Hazy said:
If you're into multiplayer, it tops Modern Warfare 2 in just about every regard.

Vehicles are present, maps are far bigger.
Teamwork is important (shocking) and you'll actually want to work together. Provided your squad isn't full of brain dead idiots.
The game is balanced as such - You don't have to be gunnin' fools down to get points.
I borrowed and beat (1000/1000 gs too) MW2 from a friend, and I do like it, but I am very intrigued by the "teamwork is important" aspect that I hear from EVERYONE about BF2, my question is what makes teamwork more important in BF2 than in MW2, because everyone says it is, but nobody ever gives a reason :(
Classes.

Only another class can counter-balance your weakness.

For example:
Medics can help everyone up, but they're fucked if they run out of ammo. Assaults can supply that ammo.
Engineers can maintain vehicles, and Recons can snipe from long distances, plant charges, call in mortar strikes, etc.

Likewise, you can pile up 4 assaults into a Bradley tank, but if not one of them is an Engineer, you're going to be eating pavement when you go up against the other tank who thought ahead and stocked themselves with Engys who are able to jump out and repair the vehicle when it takes too many hits.
SWEET! Kinda reminds me of TF2, I'll have to try this out.
 

Danny Ocean

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omega 616 said:
The engineer has a machine gun comparable to assault machine guns and both have handguns but the engineer can cope better with tanks due to it's rocket launcher.

The only advantage a medic has is you don't have to reload as often.
The SMGs don't do anywhere near as much damage over range as the Assault Rifles, and they don't have under slung grenade launchers or unlimited ammo.

Medics can heal themselves, and the machine guns have immense damage over range, huge amounts of ammo, a fast rate of fire, but with an accuracy penalty that is countered by firing in controlled bursts. Hell, it actually gets MORE accurate up to a point before dropping off again.

It's really not debatable. Especially when you can pick up eachothers kits anyway if a tank comes rolling by.

danpascooch said:
Defibs? Motion Sensors? HOLY SHIT!

Quick question, if I get pulled over going 120mph to Gamestop right now, do you think the police would give me ticket if I explained the situation?
Do I sense sarcasm?

If not, and you're getting it on PC, be sure to add me so I can get you set up with all the Escapist groups and get some games in and whatnot.
 

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I loved BF2 for the PC. Mostly because of the 64 person epic battles. Do you think that BF:BC2 for the PC will be a disappointment if I am used to BF2. I am a little put off by regenerating health and no prone....
 

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Because it's the best FPS multiplayer in a loooong time.

Servers, balanced classes, teamwork, vehicles, destruction, action, tactics and entertainment.


It's brilliant.
 

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I just bought it. The calls of "more realistic" died when I found out there is no prone. It feels like I'm walking on a slant. If I get annoyed at MW2, I'll switch it out for BC2.
 

Danny Ocean

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TheJwalkR said:
I loved BF2 for the PC. Mostly because of the 64 person epic battles. Do you think that BF:BC2 for the PC will be a disappointment if I am used to BF2. I am a little put off by regenerating health and no prone....
BC2 is more fast paced than BF2, with less of a focus on vehicles (In the majority of cases, although they are present on every map I can think of.). It's more cinematic and frantic, and you'll get more of those "Battlefield Moments". For want of a better word.

Your health doesn't really regenerate. I don't know what the stats are, but it's something like 3hp/s after 10 seconds out of combat. Sounds like a lot, but you're rarely out of combat. Medics still heal. I think the health pack doubles or triples the healing rate.

And the lack of prone didn't really bother me, to be honest. What was surprising was the lack of alteration of weapon spread when crouching compared to when standing. You're better off standing and shooting then crouching as the difference is so small. Although I think when crouched the spread returns to 0 faster when not shooting.
 

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xavierxenon said:
Karhax said:
Don't buy it for the singleplayer, the multiplayer is quite a lot better than MW2.
I actually found it the other way round. The single-player was really good, but the multiplayer was pretty crap.
I'd go with that, to some degree. Muyltiplayer is rotten pit of agony and despair because of the caliber of people playing it but the single player actually has some redeaming qualities to it. Namely, AI's aren't jerks so being shot by them is an infinitely preferable experience, but there are so many other games out there that do a far better job than BC2 at not only (and especially) story telling but even just level design and weapon balance. If you want Modern Warefare with cover that doesn't hold up in a firefight then by all means get Battlefield, but in any other case this game is best avoided.

Danny Ocean said:
Because
1. If you go one-on-one with a vehicle you will almost certainly lose. Unless you're really good.
Or have a power drill.
 

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Definantly get it. The Single Player was a blast, and the multiplayer can make you feel like a real badass, even if all your doing is sitting in the back of a helicopter and topping up its health. MW2 is stale by comparison.
 

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Danny Ocean said:
omega 616 said:
The engineer has a machine gun comparable to assault machine guns and both have handguns but the engineer can cope better with tanks due to it's rocket launcher.

The only advantage a medic has is you don't have to reload as often.
The SMGs don't do anywhere near as much damage over range as the Assault Rifles, and they don't have under slung grenade launchers or unlimited ammo.

Medics can heal themselves, and the machine guns have immense damage over range, huge amounts of ammo, a fast rate of fire, but with an accuracy penalty that is countered by firing in controlled bursts. Hell, it actually gets MORE accurate up to a point before dropping off again.

It's really not debatable. Especially when you can pick up eachothers kits anyway if a tank comes rolling by.

danpascooch said:
Defibs? Motion Sensors? HOLY SHIT!

Quick question, if I get pulled over going 120mph to Gamestop right now, do you think the police would give me ticket if I explained the situation?
Do I sense sarcasm?

If not, and you're getting it on PC, be sure to add me so I can get you set up with all the Escapist groups and get some games in and whatnot.
No sarcasm there, I seriously just went out and bought it, I won't be playing it quite yet since the last Doomsday Arcade is scheduled to come on in 22 minutes, but after that

I'LL SEE YOU ONLINE BITCHES!

EDIT: Oh, and I got it for 360, sorry