Why so much hate for Sony?

[shatnershaman]

Console war! Everybody, hit the decks!

Give em a Pineapple! Christ! Fanboy on the Right!

 

[bib12342004]

Its a trophy retard that an actual item that why its better than Achievements. Duh duh

 

[cleverlymadeup]

I personally have the HD-Drive for the 360 and notice that HD is better than Blu-Ray, but was not promoted as much and therefore no more HD-DVDs will be manufactured, but I don't see it as a waste of money since I get to enjoy many titles people with Blu-Ray players will have to wait for, if they ever get to experience them at all.

actually most of the hd-dvd titles will be out on blu-ray later this year. also most electronics store people will say blu-ray blows away hd-dvd with little trouble

In response to the original post, the reason Sony gets most of the bashing is because every field they get into, they promise the best, but can't deliver. My dad works in high-end electronics and so his company was invited to a conference held by Sony to demonstrate the Blu-Ray player; it broke. The damn thing wouldn't work. The PS3 on it's own had a similar problem and after years of delay, it just doesn't seem that well worth it. That's why they get the critisizm.

right and look how many times bill gates showed of m$ stuff and it failed horribly or didn't even work, more than sony's stuff has failed

and don't even get started on failed promises on features, m$ has had more failed promises than Sony and Nintendo and Sega combined

 

[bib12342004]

wow If Sony put out even half the good games that Microsoft puts out, then we might be nicer to them.
dumba$$

xbox 360 has two great games
halo 3
and
gears of war
sony has currently 2 great games
Resistance
MGS4

How can you compare the two there even.

 

[shatnershaman]

If you want to look at the Sony exclusives, they're right here. You shouldn't really claim they have none without looking.

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=86124

Anyway, designing for a brand new media format is hard work. Sony have taken a new idea and just run with it. This means it took a lot more effort to design for them, but also meant that Motostorm and Resistance were really cool.

And I'd like to again point out that Microsoft did not invent the concept of Points for unique play styles, Insomniac have been doing it for years.

UT3 is there and I thought PC/1 console games don't count.

EDIT: DVD>HD-DVD and Blu-ray Why? Thousands more movies

 

[Alotak]

Sony get picked on because the delay more than hmmm can't think of a decent metaphor, and when they finaly bring out whatever they been promising like JakubK666 said there is usualy more than half of it missing.
The ps3 is good, better (hardware anyway) than the Wii or the 360, however Sony sucks more than Nintendo or Microsoft (not more than Vista though because thats imposible).
Please don't hit me with the greatness which is the bannhammer.

 

[shatnershaman]

Notice how it says +PC?
If we go into that area, then the Xbox must discount Mass Effect, Bioshock (they have to discount that anyway, but whatever), Gears of War, and a hell of a lot of their other "exclusives".

Thats what I mean. Do they count? (I'm guessing you say they don't)

Heres the list of 360 games (including PC/360 ones)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Xbox_360_games

List of only 360 (No PC or other console except arcade) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Xbox_360-only_games

I like the letter "H"

 

[AlphaWolf13]

Who said Microsoft was an underdog? Go die...
Microsoft deserves to DIE...

 

[shatnershaman]

Lets go over it. The 360 exclusives worth a damn can be counted on your fingers - Mass Effect, Halo 3, Gears of War, Crackdown (I never liked it, but I assume some people do), Dead Rising, Perfect Dark Zero (again, can't see the appeal).

The Ps3 exclusives worth a damn are MGS4, Resistance:Fall Of Man, Uncharted, Haze (just kidding), Heavenly Sword, Warhawk and R & C : Tools of Destruction.

The score reads a tie at 6 to 6. What may skew some people judgement is that they count shared titles as 360 exclusives.

Mass Effect-91
Halo 3-94
Gears of War-94
Crackdown-83
Dead Rising-85
Perfect Dark Zero-81

Average:88

MGS4-94
RFOM-86
Uncharted-88
HS-79
RC-89
Warhawk-84

Average:86.666...

You don't give a damn about GRAW?

 

[shatnershaman]

And did you notice how very many of them were either Arcade games or total and utter abominations? (Here I'm referring mainly to them turning a beloved platformer/adventure game into a GTA clone. I mean, seriously, are they high, or just incredibly incompetent?)

Don't count your chickens before they hatch. (Remember Lair and Haze.)

EDIT: It may be an arcade and an abomination but I'm getting Pirates vs ninjas dodgeball for the hell of it (ninjas ftw)
EDIT2.0: Oh and Ninja Gaiden 2. Some people give a damn about that.

 

[shatnershaman]

Never played it, looked it up, remembered it was on the Ps2. Doesn't sound like much of an exclusive.

And where'd you get these scores?

GRAW on 360 was different developer and not shit (90s vs PS2 50s)

I got scores from Metacritic.com look around your self. I then used grade 2 math and Vista calculator.

EDIT: Ninja Gaiden 2 is only on 360 Ninja Gaiden Sigma is a remake of a remake.

 

[Sexual Harassment Panda]

the problem I have with Sony, is that they have questionable morals.

right and m$ is any better? they were convicted of lying about LOTS of stuff and are still being fined for it

Well done for mentioning MS and turning this into another console wars thread mate. Anyway...MS also being morally reprehensible isn't a viable defence for Sony.

 

[shadow skill]

What is the point of even posting review averages that don't nessecarily take into account all of the reviews for a game; or even includes reviews that are questionable at best? I remember at least one review for Uncharted that apparently took off points because there was no multiplayer....As if every game actually needs one. Then there was the R&C debacle at gamespot. Then we have games penalized for being too short in terms of length of time it takes to play them. (There is a difference between saying a game is too short in terms of time, and saying a game did not finish when it needed to finish.)

 

[shatnershaman]

What is the point of even posting review averages that don't nessecarily take into account all of the reviews for a game; or even includes reviews that are questionable at best? I remember at least one review for Uncharted that apparently took off points because there was no multiplayer....As if every game actually needs one. Then there was the R&C debacle at gamespot. Then we have games penalized for being too short in terms of length of time it takes to play them. (There is a difference between saying a game is too short in terms of time, and saying a game did not finish when it needed to finish.)

You think multiplayer and length don't matter. They do. You can say it ends at the right time and multiplayer doesn't matter when you make your own review site.