Why the hate of Halo 3

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Moccamonster

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Bigeyez said:
Moccamonster said:
You can go ahead and blurt out your opinion, but without any reasoning behind it, there is no sense in posting it in a forum, since the entire point of a forum is to discuss viewpoints, ideas etc.
Except that this thread isn't to discuss why I like a certain game better then the other. It was to discuss "Halo hate". We've both gone really off topic and into a pointless discussion which is wasting both our time.

And come on...the Halo fanbase IS bigger then Half-Life's. Just like Mickey Mouse's or Barbie's or Pokemon's fanbase is bigger. You can't honestly think HL has a bigger fanbase then Halo do you?

Regarding all the other stuff you said I can't really say anything. Like I said before you have your opinions and thats it. I'm still not exactly sure why the hell we're even argueing when I already said I'm not even trying to persuade anyone to agree with me, I'm simply stating my opinion.
I cannot comment on the sheer size of both games fanbases, and of course this would not be possible since there is no single definition of a fan.

However, what i see with the HL-fanbase is a lot more devotion. The sheer amount and quality of mods, maps, skins etc within the community is simple amazing, though this is obviously attributed to HL being a PC game more then anything else(meaning this comment only applies to the PC versions).

And while you are right that this futile discussion is quite frankly a waste of both your and my time, i guess this is just my desperation in finding out what pushes certain people to hold Halo 3 as a breakthrough in the genre and gaming as a whole.
 

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Psychosocial said:
Vrex360 said:
Psychosocial said:
NO! NO! No matter how you put it, the Halo flame war will begin now. :(

Well, it's simple;

Valve fanboys
PS3 fanboys
Elitists
Bandwagons

Well, there are like 2 people who just don't like the games too. But that pretty much sums it up. :p
Wow someone beat me to it in Halo thread... never thought I'd see the day. I salute you sir.
Well, you DID ask me to defend Halo while you were on vacation a while back and all, remember? :p

I'm just defending Halo from ignorant people, that's all. :)
*pats Psychosocial on the back with respect*
 

BolognaBaloney

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thel1st said:
well I don't like it because the multi player is too easy, you suck for two rounds after not playing for 9 months and then on the third round u get the top score for your team and the rape continues.
And the Campaign well ... they lost me at "finishing this fight"
How is that any different from the vast numbers of sequels other games have. Call of duty, Resident Evil, Elder Scrolls, games have sequels, it doesn't mean their milking it.
 

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thel1st said:
well I don't like it because the multi player is too easy, you suck for two rounds after not playing for 9 months and then on the third round u get the top score for your team and the rape continues.
And the Campaign well ... they lost me at "finishing this fight"
Firstly, the multiplayer is too easy is never a complaint anyone should make, ever. It ranks you up with how well you are going. If you think the community really sucks that badly you should be making money with your amazing talents. As much I disliked the campaign, I would like to note that halo 3 is chronological the last game ( I think). Whats more I've got a chemistry exam in 7 hours (unrelated).

BolognaBaloney said:
samaritan.squirrel said:
Argh. This is why I think people should have a post-count of at least 400 before being allowed to start threads..
Why stop there, let's make Gonzo the new posting allowance.
Why stop there? Let's make it you need to be here 1 year. Sucks to be you new(ish) people.

Seriously, people with low post counts have useful opinions too. at OP - Maybe just next time you could add to a thread instead of starting a new one. Actually just reading the first page should be enough to answer all your questions.
 

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BlindTom said:
Why this thread? Over and over again?

I'm not invoking search button naziism but WHYYYYYYYYY?
Seconded.

Also, why would anyone care in the first place? I don't go around asking why people hate JRPGs so much either, as long as I enjoy them what do I care about anyone else?
 

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BolognaBaloney said:
How is that any different from the vast numbers of sequels other games have. Call of duty, Resident Evil, Elder Scrolls, games have sequels, it doesn't mean their milking it.
Agh, you beat me to it. A point I made in a thread the other day; when Halo Reach comes out, Halo will have 6 games in 10 years. Compare that to God of War, a beloved franchise, which has 5 games in 5 years (by the time GoW3 comes out) and you see how futile that argument is. As long as the games are good, it doesn't matter how many of them there are.
 
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they are decent games.. but very over-rated and they get old fast and the obnoxious fanbase' as someone said earlier. i've had more fun with more un-heard of games than halo...
 

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AmrasCalmacil said:
Yaaaaaargh!


On topic though, before this thread degenerates: It's partly to do with the popularity of the series which makes it edgy to hate.
I lol'd
 

BolognaBaloney

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GuerrillaClock said:
BolognaBaloney said:
How is that any different from the vast numbers of sequels other games have. Call of duty, Resident Evil, Elder Scrolls, games have sequels, it doesn't mean their milking it.
Agh, you beat me to it. A point I made in a thread the other day; when Halo Reach comes out, Halo will have 6 games in 10 years. Compare that to God of War, a beloved franchise, which has 5 games in 5 years (by the time GoW3 comes out) and you see how futile that argument is. As long as the games are good, it doesn't matter how many of them there are.
It's almost sad that the milking argument is one of the largest reasons I hear Halo being bashed, but then again most people that go out of their way to hate it have nothing better to do.
 

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The funny thing here is not the fact that there is yet another Halo 3 thread, but the fact people feel so strongly ABOUT the fact there is another Halo 3 thread.

The great thing about the internet is you don't have to involve yourself with something you don't want to. You don't have to click the link, and read the messages, and thus, you don't have to then complain about there being another thread on the topic.

Personally, I find the whole debacle rather amusing. The Halo series has always been about utilising some of the best stalwarts in FPS methodology (one could argue that the human weapon set of AR, Pistol, Shotgun, Sniper Rifle, Rocket Launcher is the same old same old BECAUSE its the same old same old) and doing it well. The games are as enjoyable as Resistance, Killzone, Soldier of Fortune, HL and CoD.

Personally, while I have played through and completed all Halo games, and will be buying ODST and Reach, I do not play them to death. Main reason is because of the amount of times I'll start playing something and get invited into a CoD: WaW multiplayer session instead. I go the flow of what my online friends are playing, and the last three games I completed were a cheap copy of the Darkness, Madworld and Castle Crashers.

Am I a Fanboy? Not really. I like what I like, dislike what I dislike (I liked Jericho for example, many hated it) and I'll agree with the topic starter, I personally cannot understand how you can be so blind as to hate something purely because it is the vogue to hate it. I hate Jordan, the hype over Jade Goody and people who live off the benefit system without even trying to find work, but if I was to rant and rave about them online, I'd be no better than the sensationalist tabloid press that seem to print 95% bullshit about 5% real fact about something.

Call it a trapping of age or maturity that I guess most people who have access to the internet lack, but the idea of haters and fanboys is far more hilarious than much of the opinionated tat they actually type. I enjoyed Yahtzee's review of Halo 3, doesn't mean I took it to heart and didn't buy the game and enjoy it as well, and as I have never played more than a demo of Resistance 2 (which the Sony rep at the time managed to make look boring and generic for me, more likely a falure of the presentation than anything to do with the game itself) I will hold opinion on the game itself until such a time as I am able to make one that is better informed.

Of course, as you the readers have no idea what I am actually like sat here typing this because I have nothing much better to do then I suppose there is nothing stopping me from typing "PS3 exclusive shooters generally suck and are nothing but copies of better 360 games (ref: Haze-lo, Gears of Resistance 2) and my opinion is te bestest because I say so, and I'm l33t rah!"

One last opinion to sign off with.
Fanboys and Haters; the blind arguing with the deaf.


I've been Tzatziki3301, finally on the Escapist forums after 3 years of 'cannot be bothered'.
 

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BolognaBaloney said:
GuerrillaClock said:
BolognaBaloney said:
How is that any different from the vast numbers of sequels other games have. Call of duty, Resident Evil, Elder Scrolls, games have sequels, it doesn't mean their milking it.
Agh, you beat me to it. A point I made in a thread the other day; when Halo Reach comes out, Halo will have 6 games in 10 years. Compare that to God of War, a beloved franchise, which has 5 games in 5 years (by the time GoW3 comes out) and you see how futile that argument is. As long as the games are good, it doesn't matter how many of them there are.
It's almost sad that the milking argument is one of the largest reasons I hear Halo being bashed, but then again most people that go out of their way to hate it have nothing better to do.
I find it strange that that the people with the most time on their hands make the weakest arguments about this stuff. You'd think they'd have more time to come up with something, but I suppose it's easier to copy Yahtzee or something.
 

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You wanna know why I hate Halo 3? Because I hate the people that like it. Not all of them, I will say that but the online community ruins it for me. They believe that it's the best game in the world and, well, it just isn't. "Simple but brilliant" someone said to me the other day. I wanted to shake his hand then punch him in the face for just saying something so ridiculous. If you want simple but brilliant play asteroids or pacman or something.
All that being said, I don't mind the game itself, it's just not as good as these 12 year old fanboys think...
 

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It's not that I hate halo series so much as I didn't think it was anything but a generic FPS with a pretty decent plot. The plot was the only thing outstanding in that game, it brought nothing else new to the genre and it was surrounded by all that hype. Lets be honest here, it did not stand up to the hype at all.

It also was on a console which automatically makes it inferior to any PC based FPS simply because the controller is no where near as good for FPSs as a kbd+mouse (kbd+mouse is both more immersive and more accurate).
 

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Psychosocial said:
NO! NO! No matter how you put it, the Halo flame war will begin now. :(

Well, it's simple;

Valve fanboys
PS3 fanboys
Elitists
Bandwagons

Well, there are like 2 people who just don't like the games too. But that pretty much sums it up. :p
Actually I'm one of those rare gamers who couldn't care less what developer a game has come from, or what console. The fact is there are alot of people who just like games in general. Why say a game is shit because it's form a different developer?

As for Halo 3, it's a good game, the story does make you want to see what happens next. It's true that the game play isn't that innovative but it works, and the reason why its mainstream is because alot of people actually do like it. Mainstream isn't a bad thing.

This does not mean I am a bandwagon person. I'll say it, I didn't like Gears of war, or Gears of War 2, and those are about as much on the bandwagon as you can be.
 

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I like Halo 3's multiplayer. The singleplayer is below average, but the multiplayer is terrific. Just yesterday, 3 friends and I went into MLG (a playlist) and pretty much dominated everyone. It was some of the most fun I've had in a game for a while.
 

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I think the game is good. I think the matchmaking system is very well done, plus I think the forge mode is reasonably innovative for a console game. So i don't necessarily dislike the game, it is the halo community which aggravate me beyond reasonable description with their claims that Halo 3 is the best game ever which quite frankly is not true. So the game is good but the community are bad.
 

Collymilad08

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It's simple.

You have all the people who love Halo 3. Then you get people who jump on the bandwagon. Then you have people who actually just do not like Halo 3, which is not a problem at all. But then there's another group of people who just hate things that a lot of other people love - I don't know why they do it, maybe to make themselves look cool, or just to be different. It's the same with anything.

I'm not saying all people who hate Halo 3 do so just for the sake of it, but I'd say a large chunk of the haters are these people.
 

Simriel

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Because people are trying to be cool by hating something that others love. All in all it isnt a bad game. it isn't like gaming jesus, but its a fun play.
 

BladeOfAkriloth

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Over hyped, popular amongst so-called "fratboys", some people consider it to flashy for they're oh so god help me "grittynes" and "pissed-off attitude", and " it turned an innocent teen (yeah right, tell it to the sites he wanked to) into a cold-blooded murderer"http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/88151-Teenager-Kills-Mother-Over-Halo-3.



Ze usual....