Why the hype with Final Fantasy?

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Tactical Fugitive

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Hello dear Escapists. Please explain why Final Fantasy are good games. Because, you see, I have played a few of the FF titles, I've even gone through the trouble of beating FF VII, which I was told, was oh so special, and you know what? I don't get it. The main character is almost always annoying and stupid, the dialogues are lame (ok, maybe bad translation on older games is to be blames), the story is always mostly the same and everything in general is ridiculously naive. I can only compliment the art style and the music, which are pretty good - but that ain't the main parts of an rpg.

And what the hell is the big deal with aeris's death? Good riddance!
Meh, for me the characters are too underdeveloped to care about them.

So tell me, why do you like Final Fantasy games? What's so special about them?
 

Judgement101

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Nothing. Nothing at all. Compared to Persona, Final Fantasy is crap. The only thing is FF is one of the few JRPG franchises still alive.
 

JSkunk22

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God forbid someone's opinion differs from your own. Since you're already clearly biased and dislike the franchise, why should I waste my breath telling you why I'm a fan? Chances are you will refute everything I say and try to further state your claims, since this is the internet.
 

Onyx Oblivion

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No...convince ME why I should like Mass Effect 2? The shooter that calls itself an RPG.

See. Two can play the "impossible question" game.

We've both made up our minds already.

[sub]But seriously, try and convince me to believe this bullshit about "RPGs are about role-playing". It'll be fun.[/sub]
 

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I played a few FFs and never found any of them to be anything pass a 7/10 game. I played some of FFVI (FFIII on SNES) and I couldn't finish it because of the stupid random battles; there's a section where you have to rescue someone from a burning house and there's a random battle every 2 to 3 steps in a fucking BURNING HOUSE. I played FFX and the gameplay was far too basic and easy, the battles were pointless because enemy HPs were so low. Lastly, I played FFXII and actually had a good time with it, the game does have several flaws but overall it was fun. And, no I'm not playing FFVII because I just hate random battles, it completely discourages exploration and RPGs should encourage it; I'm going to go over there and see if anything is there, nothing there but I had to fight like 10 random battles to find out. Also, I read a rather detailed plot summary of FFVII before I watched Advent Children and I really didn't find it that interesting.
 

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Onyx Oblivion said:
No...convince ME why I should like Mass Effect 2? The shooter that calls itself an RPG.

See. Two can play the "impossible question" game.

We've both made up our minds already.

[sub]But seriously, try and convince me to believe this bullshit about "RPGs are about role-playing". It'll be fun.[/sub]
But but..they are not! They are about Rocket Propelled Grenades, duh.

As far as FF goes tho, i dunno, i never liked jRPGs to start with, last FF i enjjoyed was FF III but back in the times i enjoyed every game i played. Maybe, you know, people just like such stuff, it happens. World would be damn boring if everyone liked the same stuff.
 

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Tactical Fugitive said:
Hello dear Escapists. Please explain why Final Fantasy are good games. Because, you see, I have played a few of the FF titles, I've even gone through the trouble of beating FF VII, which I was told, was oh so special, and you know what? I don't get it. The main character is almost always annoying and stupid, the dialogues are lame (ok, maybe bad translation on older games is to be blames), the story is always mostly the same and everything in general is ridiculously naive. I can only compliment the art style and the music, which are pretty good - but that ain't the main parts of an rpg.

And what the hell is the big deal with aeris's death? Good riddance!
Meh, for me the characters are too underdeveloped to care about them.

So tell me, why do you like Final Fantasy games? What's so special about them?
O_O Hahahahahahhahaha!

To get on topic. Why something is hyped and why it's good/enjoyed are different things.

First of all, everyone has different taste, and just because someone likes FF, doesn't mean they like ALL the FF's! I love 6 and 7, but 12 13 are disgusting to me! It's about the little things.

The one you played, 7, will always be a milestone and a big deal for 2 reasons. First, it was one of the first RPG's that were in 3D, which was pretty cool. Second, it was the FF that made the series mainstream.

Speaking of which, most fans of 7 were fans of it when it first came out. And just like it being 3D was a big deal back in the day, most of the stuff you saw as no biggie were as well, such as Aeris/Aerith's death, cut scenes, the story, etc.

Personally, I still love the environment and story of FF7. While a lot of them share similarities, it's no more than BioWare games do. If anything, FF7 is special because it probably has the most filled out environment. There's a LOT of background stuff they try and cram in there to explain how things work, from the planet to mako to engines. And while most people find it obnoxious, I'm a text-whore, so it's for me.

Not so much the characters, but they all helped me get through a crappy time in my life, and thus, I'm a proponent for competent remake, etc. As such, Cloud and Sephiroth will always have soft spots in my heart.

Glad you liked the art and music, that's always something that FF delivers on.

As for gameplay, again, it's all about taste. I wish I could see more turn-based stuff on today's market, but no such luck. But, I'm cool with it. I'm pretty vast in my tastes when it comes to gaming.

Overall, I love the older FF's, ironically til 8, where things got so convoluted, it disappeared up it's own ass. Though, 10 is an exception.

As far as hype goes, you should never follow hype. Be excited about it, but there's always hype about everything, and it you let it catch you, you will only become disappointed in the end...
 

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Judgement101 said:
Nothing. Nothing at all. Compared to Persona, Final Fantasy is crap. The only thing is FF is one of the few JRPG franchises still alive.
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LogicNProportion said:
Tactical Fugitive said:
Hello dear Escapists. Please explain why Final Fantasy are good games. Because, you see, I have played a few of the FF titles, I've even gone through the trouble of beating FF VII, which I was told, was oh so special, and you know what? I don't get it. The main character is almost always annoying and stupid, the dialogues are lame (ok, maybe bad translation on older games is to be blames), the story is always mostly the same and everything in general is ridiculously naive. I can only compliment the art style and the music, which are pretty good - but that ain't the main parts of an rpg.

And what the hell is the big deal with aeris's death? Good riddance!
Meh, for me the characters are too underdeveloped to care about them.

So tell me, why do you like Final Fantasy games? What's so special about them?
O_O Hahahahahahhahaha!

To get on topic. Why something is hyped and why it's good/enjoyed are different things.

First of all, everyone has different taste, and just because someone likes FF, doesn't mean they like ALL the FF's! I love 6 and 7, but 12 13 are disgusting to me! It's about the little things.

The one you played, 7, will always be a milestone and a big deal for 2 reasons. First, it was one of the first RPG's that were in 3D, which was pretty cool. Second, it was the FF that made the series mainstream.

Speaking of which, most fans of 7 were fans of it when it first came out. And just like it being 3D was a big deal back in the day, most of the stuff you saw as no biggie were as well, such as Aeris/Aerith's death, cut scenes, the story, etc.

Personally, I still love the environment and story of FF7. While a lot of them share similarities, it's no more than BioWare games do. If anything, FF7 is special because it probably has the most filled out environment. There's a LOT of background stuff they try and cram in there to explain how things work, from the planet to mako to engines. And while most people find it obnoxious, I'm a text-whore, so it's for me.

Not so much the characters, but they all helped me get through a crappy time in my life, and thus, I'm a proponent for competent remake, etc. As such, Cloud and Sephiroth will always have soft spots in my heart.

Glad you liked the art and music, that's always something that FF delivers on.

As for gameplay, again, it's all about taste. I wish I could see more turn-based stuff on today's market, but no such luck. But, I'm cool with it. I'm pretty vast in my tastes when it comes to gaming.

Overall, I love the older FF's, ironically til 8, where things got so convoluted, it disappeared up it's own ass. Though, 10 is an exception.

As far as hype goes, you should never follow hype. Be excited about it, but there's always hype about everything, and it you let it catch you, you will only become disappointed in the end...
this is exactly what i would say, word for word. good post.

can't really say much other than its apples and oranges, people prefer different things.
 

Hosker

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JSkunk22 said:
God forbid someone's opinion differs from your own. Since you're already clearly biased and dislike the franchise, why should I waste my breath telling you why I'm a fan? Chances are you will refute everything I say and try to further state your claims, since this is the internet.
I don't think you'd waste your breath by typing ^_-
 

DMonkey

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Well, its been around just as long as Zelda, Mario, and Metroid, and still puts out installments, and has a pretty decent fanbase.

Wow, the series must be older then some of the people on the board, now that I think about it.

Who else feels old?
 

JSkunk22

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Hosker said:
JSkunk22 said:
God forbid someone's opinion differs from your own. Since you're already clearly biased and dislike the franchise, why should I waste my breath telling you why I'm a fan? Chances are you will refute everything I say and try to further state your claims, since this is the internet.
I don't think you'd waste your breath by typing ^_-
LOL.
 

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Tactical Fugitive said:
Hello dear Escapists. Please explain why Final Fantasy are good games. Because, you see, I have played a few of the FF titles, I've even gone through the trouble of beating FF VII, which I was told, was oh so special, and you know what? I don't get it. The main character is almost always annoying and stupid, the dialogues are lame (ok, maybe bad translation on older games is to be blames), the story is always mostly the same and everything in general is ridiculously naive. I can only compliment the art style and the music, which are pretty good - but that ain't the main parts of an rpg.

And what the hell is the big deal with aeris's death? Good riddance!
Meh, for me the characters are too underdeveloped to care about them.

So tell me, why do you like Final Fantasy games? What's so special about them?
FF7 is mediocre... but got such a following that some fan color their perception of the title. It's not any good but it let's you customize your character. That's the only point interesting here. If you want good, You'll have to go back to 6. Nine wasn't that bad either. But stay away from anything with double digit or you may lose some of your sanity.
 

Akalistos

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Jak The Great said:
you don't get it. End of story. stop making us justify why we like it.
Maybe there's nothing to get. Have you ever thought about this one.