Why the Skyrim boycott is a waste of time and missing enjoyment.

[Normandyfoxtrot]

Meh, what maybe .000000000000000000000000000001% of all boycotts have ever ever had even the slightest impact on anything If you think Bethesda is right rest assured no statistically significant impact will appear on their sales reports.

 

[Epona]

So you think it will hurt Skyrim's sales? Well, then it isn't a waste of time since that's the point of a boycott.

I don't think it will hurt Skyrim's sales but even if it does, I support consumers standing their ground.

It's a waste of time because as I've said its just going to hurt everyone.

But what are they standing for? Some guy being immature about an actual legal concern, yay for stands.

The point of a boycott is to hurt sales and if you think that's what going to happen, then it isn't a waste of time. How is it going to hurt everyone? How is a boycott of Skyrim going to hurt anyone except Bethesda/Zenimax?

What are they standing for? If you don't know then you shouldn't have started a thread saying they are wrong.

So your argument is because what their doing what the dictionary says is the definition of their action then its not a waste of time. So if I pace back forth according to its definition I'm not wasting time right? No, I am, I'm wasting a lot of time.

Its hurting everyone because people who want to enjoy the game are going to not buy it because they want to be on some none existent moral high ground.

They're saying that Notch is totally innocent and they don't want him to get sued, yes, that's the reason, also some mixing of "The corporations are crapping on the little dude" don't believe me? Maybe you should read their arguments yourself

You said that the boycott would hurt sales. Then how can you say it's a waste of time? The point of a boycott is to hurt sales and if you believe that will be the result, then it can't be a waste of time.

People who choose to boycott the game are going to be making their own decisions and as I've said, those who want to both boycott and play Skyrim can buy it used. No, it's not hurting everyone and I find it sort of creepy that you are concerned with other gamers playing Skyrim, why do you care if someone misses out on this game? Do you feel some pain over it?

I know why they are boycotting and quite frankly I agree with them that Bethesda/Zenimax is in the wrong (I mean really, who calls Skyrim The Elder Scrolls 5, no one!). Just not wrong enough to make me want to boycott but I support those that do because I prefer to see gamers with a spine rather than gamers with an addiction.

I wont waste words on your first point, your just regurgitating your previous argument practically word for word.

Again, I don't care if they won't buy it for realistic reasons (One of my friends wont buy it because of legitimate gameplay dislikes in Bethesda games) But boycotting FOR NOTCH is stupid. (Again, your regurgitating arguments, So I'll respond the same way)

If they want to have a spine that's fine with me, but having a spine for stupid reasons just makes them stupid, not great crusaders who are standing up for the little man.

I have to repeat myself because you don't seem to be understanding. I see what you did though, you claim not to understand so you don't respond then I clarify it and you don't respond because I am repeating it. Very clever.

A stupid reason to you is not a stupid reason to others. As an example you probably think this thread is not stupid, I do though.

 

[cthulhumythos]

Let them boycott if they want. If they feel it's a legitimate reason, there's no point in stopping them.

Boycotting boycotts gets us nowhere.

Exactly and it shows that gamers do have limits. That we aren't just druggies who will do/ignore anything for our next fix. That's what some gamers sound like to me, "I don't care about anything but getting my hands on ".

honestly, that's pretty much me. why should i care? i'm a consumer. i want quality product. i'm not a druggie. i'm just someone who at the end of the day wants the game that appeals to me most.

if minecraft doesn't survive this legal battle (i really don't understand how, it's no longer some little game- it's generated millions of dollars) it's simply natural selection in my eyes. if it survives (which it obviously will, i mean c'mon) well... then everything's back to normal then, isn't it?

the boycott can only hurt, and that's why i don't see the point of it.

 

[cookyy2k]

So you think it will hurt Skyrim's sales? Well, then it isn't a waste of time since that's the point of a boycott.

I don't think it will hurt Skyrim's sales but even if it does, I support consumers standing their ground.

It's a waste of time because as I've said its just going to hurt everyone.

But what are they standing for? Some guy being immature about an actual legal concern, yay for stands.

Good, the idea of a boycott is to hurt a company financially so you're acknowlaging this boycott isn't a waste of time.

 

[SevenForce]

Boycotting a game is pointless

At some point you will give in and buy the game.

Bethesda aren't bad people, their legal team are just being assholes who won't do the Quake 3 match.

Why should they though? They have a legitimate concern with the name of notches game, why should they behave like 12 year olds and play a game over it?

Oh, god forbid people play video games like 12 year olds.

 

[The Funslinger]

Why not just buy pre owned? They dont get the money and you get the game.

Please read the comment below yours.




Not giving Bethesda your money is completely stupid. It could possibly hurt Bethesda, ie the people who actually make great games, but would not hurt the company that owns them, Zenimax, much. Zenimax's legal team =/= the guys who make skyrim. So even if this boycott somehow damages anyone, it will not be damaging the people that it is aiming to.

/Massive facepalm.

I think he's only trying to find a compromise for the people with sticks so far up their arses that they feel the need to get involved and defend a "vulnerable" millionaire. If they're going to be so thick as to so arbitrarily boycott what is arguably the lesser of a thousand evils, then they can easily still massage their egos and get a great game at once.

 

[Epona]

Boycotting a game is pointless

At some point you will give in and buy the game.

Bethesda aren't bad people, their legal team are just being assholes who won't do the Quake 3 match.

The reason online passes and everything else bad about the industry exists and is here to stay, gamers who "just support the devs" or say "boycotts never work so I'll get it anyway" are killing this industry by showing EA and their ilk they can get away with literally anything.

Exactly, when a few gamers get a spine and decide to boycott a game over what THEY perceive as a huge company picking on a small company threads like this pop up trying to discourage a boycott.

 

[Tyzamar]

I know absolutely nothing about this kind of thing....but how does Bethesda have the rights to the word "scrolls"?

 

[Saviordd1]

Boycotting a game is pointless

At some point you will give in and buy the game.

Bethesda aren't bad people, their legal team are just being assholes who won't do the Quake 3 match.

Why should they though? They have a legitimate concern with the name of notches game, why should they behave like 12 year olds and play a game over it?

Oh, god forbid people play video games like 12 year olds.

Nice fox news move.

No, I'm not saying 12 year olds are the only ones acceptable to play games.

I'm saying only immature people use video games to solve complex legal debates.

Nice try though.

 

[pppppppppppppppppp]

I think Yahtzee said this at one point, but why do gamers feel the need to defend their favorite companies like little crusaders? The outcome of this legal debate will not be change because of your incessant whining, now go pre-order Skyrim like a good citizen.

 

[Epona]

Let them boycott if they want. If they feel it's a legitimate reason, there's no point in stopping them.

Boycotting boycotts gets us nowhere.

Exactly and it shows that gamers do have limits. That we aren't just druggies who will do/ignore anything for our next fix. That's what some gamers sound like to me, "I don't care about anything but getting my hands on ".

honestly, that's pretty much me. why should i care? i'm a consumer. i want quality product. i'm not a druggie. i'm just someone who at the end of the day wants the game that appeals to me most.

if minecraft doesn't survive this legal battle (i really don't understand how, it's no longer some little game- it's generated millions of dollars) it's simply natural selection in my eyes. if it survives (which it obviously will, i mean c'mon) well... then everything's back to normal then, isn't it?

the boycott can only hurt, and that's why i don't see the point of it.

That's the point of a boycott, to hurt sales, how can you miss the point of a boycott?

 

[Saviordd1]

I have to repeat myself because you don't seem to be understanding. I see what you did though, you claim not to understand so you don't respond then I clarify it and you don't respond because I am repeating it. Very clever.

A stupid reason to you is not a stupid reason to others. As an example you probably think this thread is not stupid, I do though.

I did respond, maybe you are incapable of seeing it, sorry if that's so. If you think I have to use some weird clever ploy to win an argument your wrong, I win an argument with my words and beliefs and proof, not trickery.

If you think its stupid there's no one here who's telling you to stay, if it annoys you that much, then leave.

 

[cookyy2k]

Why not just buy pre owned? They dont get the money and you get the game.

Please read the comment below yours.




Not giving Bethesda your money is completely stupid. It could possibly hurt Bethesda, ie the people who actually make great games, but would not hurt the company that owns them, Zenimax, much. Zenimax's legal team =/= the guys who make skyrim. So even if this boycott somehow damages anyone, it will not be damaging the people that it is aiming to.

/Massive facepalm.

Because I can buy a game and make sure none of the money goes to the legal team can't I?

I've not bought an EA published games new in years, I like bioware, but it's EA so they get no money from me since it goes into EA's pockets.

 

[Normandyfoxtrot]

Boycotting a game is pointless

At some point you will give in and buy the game.

Bethesda aren't bad people, their legal team are just being assholes who won't do the Quake 3 match.

The reason online passes and everything else bad about the industry exists and is here to stay, gamers who "just support the devs" or say "boycotts never work so I'll get it anyway" are killing this industry by showing EA and their ilk they can get away with literally anything.

Exactly, when a few gamers get a spine and decide to boycott a game over what THEY perceive as a huge company picking on a small company threads like this pop up trying to discourage a boycott.

Good luck doing that when you can't get people to boycott companies that do much worse things.

 

[Epona]

I know absolutely nothing about this kind of thing....but how does Bethesda have the rights to the word "scrolls"?

They don't and that's why people are against this lawsuit.

People almost always refer to the Elder Scrolls games by their subtitle. Arena, Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblvion, Skyrim. This idea that the word scrolls belongs exclusively to Bethesda is as ridiculous as it gets.

 

[cookyy2k]

Meh, what maybe .000000000000000000000000000001% of all boycotts have ever ever had even the slightest impact on anything If you think Bethesda is right rest assured no statistically significant impact will appear on their sales reports.

If you look up real boycotts, outside of the video games industry where fans behave like they're sleeping with the dev team there has been a lot of success in getting things changed through boycott

 

[Epona]

Boycotting a game is pointless

At some point you will give in and buy the game.

Bethesda aren't bad people, their legal team are just being assholes who won't do the Quake 3 match.

The reason online passes and everything else bad about the industry exists and is here to stay, gamers who "just support the devs" or say "boycotts never work so I'll get it anyway" are killing this industry by showing EA and their ilk they can get away with literally anything.

Exactly, when a few gamers get a spine and decide to boycott a game over what THEY perceive as a huge company picking on a small company threads like this pop up trying to discourage a boycott.

Good luck doing that when you can't get people to boycott companies that do much worse things.

I know right, I am not even a Skyrim boycotter but I do appreciate that gamers are finally standing up for something.

 

[Normandyfoxtrot]

Meh, what maybe .000000000000000000000000000001% of all boycotts have ever ever had even the slightest impact on anything If you think Bethesda is right rest assured no statistically significant impact will appear on their sales reports.

If you look up real boycotts, outside of the video games industry where fans behave like they're sleeping with the dev team there has been a lot of success in getting things changed through boycott

yeah, if your lucky enough to draw enough media attention so they get threatened with legal action, but that requires there to be actual crime. The number that succeed simply on loss of profit are pretty bloody hard to find I found less than thirty in the last half century when I did research on it for a term paper.

 

[cthulhumythos]

Let them boycott if they want. If they feel it's a legitimate reason, there's no point in stopping them.

Boycotting boycotts gets us nowhere.

Exactly and it shows that gamers do have limits. That we aren't just druggies who will do/ignore anything for our next fix. That's what some gamers sound like to me, "I don't care about anything but getting my hands on ".

honestly, that's pretty much me. why should i care? i'm a consumer. i want quality product. i'm not a druggie. i'm just someone who at the end of the day wants the game that appeals to me most.

if minecraft doesn't survive this legal battle (i really don't understand how, it's no longer some little game- it's generated millions of dollars) it's simply natural selection in my eyes. if it survives (which it obviously will, i mean c'mon) well... then everything's back to normal then, isn't it?

the boycott can only hurt, and that's why i don't see the point of it.

That's the point of a boycott, to hurt sales, how can you miss the point of a boycott?

no. boycotts are to accomplish something good. in 1955 people boycotted buses in order to put an end to racial segregation. whats this for? to show bethesda that a small portion of their fanbase gets pissy whenever they do something the fanbase deems incorrect? what does this accomplish other than hurting people who put four years into making an awesome game?

it just comes off as childish to me. i dunno.

 

[cookyy2k]

Boycotting a game is pointless

At some point you will give in and buy the game.

Bethesda aren't bad people, their legal team are just being assholes who won't do the Quake 3 match.

The reason online passes and everything else bad about the industry exists and is here to stay, gamers who "just support the devs" or say "boycotts never work so I'll get it anyway" are killing this industry by showing EA and their ilk they can get away with literally anything.

Exactly, when a few gamers get a spine and decide to boycott a game over what THEY perceive as a huge company picking on a small company threads like this pop up trying to discourage a boycott.

Good luck doing that when you can't get people to boycott companies that do much worse things.

I know right, I am not even a Skyrim boycotter but I do appreciate that gamers are finally standing up for something.

Exactly. This is a minor reason to boycott, if someone wants to over it I'm not going to flame them over it. However there are some big issues in the current gaming industry that should result in the publisher being told to knock it off via a boycott, but no one ever does and thus publishers can do ANYTHING.